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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, please see our help pages, and if you can't find what you are looking for there, please feel free to ask me on my talk page or place {{Help me}} on this page and someone will drop by to help. Again, welcome! Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 21:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Nice job on making your first edit at defenestration! :P

I was already a Wikipedian! First, it was with no account, then as "TheBrakeman" (lost the password), now it's this new account.

I have a long list of edit history.Thebrakeman2 (talk)

Ouch. No email address? Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 22:26, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arne Pettersen

No, but, can I ask you a question about a person who I think warrants a page?Thebrakeman2 (talk)

Do you mean Arne Pettersen? I saw your post on Alacamari's user page. It's been a long time since I've familiarized myself with the criteria for creating an article, though. Your best bet is to check the links I posted above in the welcome message. I have to warn you, however, that Wikipedia is stricter on biographies than other articles. Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 22:39, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to make an article on Arne Pettersen though. Thebrakeman2 (talk)

Who is he? Articles on Wikipedia, especially biographies, have to meet notability requirements. Basically, is he famous enough? Also, when adding replies, you should indent it by adding a colon (:) at the beginning. :) Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 22:59, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arne P. Pettersen (11th of February, 1906 - 14th of February, 1981) was a Norwegian Sailor most famous for being the last person to ever be processed through and leave Ellis Island, on the day it closed. The first person to ever be processed through it (Annie Moore) has a page, and we have less info on her. Thebrakeman2 (talk) 23:11, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've done a little reading, and Wikipedia:BIO1E would say that just the fact that he was the last person to pass through Ellis Island isn't enough for notability. I believe Annie Moore has an article because there's extra information on her such as family history and her legacy, and most importantly, several sources about her. You imply there's more info on Arne, though. May I ask what is this information, and are there sources for it? Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 23:31, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an article by a respected genealogist and historian who has worked on Ellis Island documentaries for PBS, that goes over some of the basics, with photos of and links to birth, census, criminal, and death records. He was imprisoned several times in the U.S, due to overstaying his "welcome" of thirty days per voyage. https://smolenyak.medium.com/we-finally-know-what-happened-to-arne-pettersen-the-last-to-leave-ellis-island-3529a692389d

I have more if you would like them, that one is just one of the most comprehensive.

Oh hey, she has her own article! Well, that looks good enough for notability and reliability once combined with other sources. You're good to go about starting a draft! You should start one here: User:Thebrakeman2/Draft/Arne Pettersen! Unfortunately, I have to leave now for real life, but when I'm back I'll be happy to help out however I can. Good luck on your first article! Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 00:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When will you be getting back to me?

But, I shall start a draft. Thanks for the help.Thebrakeman2

Nice work starting on the draft! I'll be checking every now and then to see if it's complete, and once it is I'll help polish it up to the best of my ability. Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 13:59, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! This means a lot. But, what happens when it is complete?

We move it into mainspace, the place where people read articles. By the way, you should sign your comments on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end. Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 14:29, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it was three tides? Thebrakeman2 (talk) 14:34, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And, how do we make sure it gets into main space as an official article?

Everything in mainspace is an article. Also, please try not to break your replies into two or more lines, as that confuses Wikipedia's reply system.

Ok, I won't Thebrakeman2 (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 14:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could you help me with the page? Part of the code is broken so that one of the paragraphs (Service in WW2) isn't showing up.Thebrakeman2 (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And I accidentally probe the list of presidents of Princeton page trying to add an image of their 16th president. Could you fix it?Thebrakeman2 (talk) 22:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the draft and reversed your edits to the Princeton page. Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 15:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, I'm having trouble finding out who Arne's father remarried after his wife (Arne's mother) died. Could you help me on that?Thebrakeman2 (talk) 15:23, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

January 2022

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to List of shipwrecks in 2011, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Do not break templates because you do not know how to use them. Llammakey (talk) 16:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The template didn't work when you "fixed" it either. I reverted it so as to have a working link, even if the template was slightly broken, but thank you for doing both. Thebrakeman2 (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup tags

Hi Thebrakeman2

Per WP:WNTRMT, please do not remove a cleanup from an article when the issue tagged remains unresolved, as you did in this edit[1] to List of shipwrecks in 2022, where you removed {{Bare URL inline}} from a reference that was still a bare URL.

Cleanup tag help editors to identify that an article needs attention. When the issue is resolved,the then tag can be removed. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:59, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BrownHairedGirl we already know it needs attention; that's why I removed them. The other frequent editors of the page know I don't know how to properly cite, and so they fix "bare references" soon after I add new entries. Thebrakeman2 (talk) 13:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Niels Truhlsen's grandson

I decided to write to you about this, rather than continuing your edit war there or starting an article talk page discussion about what's pretty obvious to me. We are definitely allowed to pipe link from a name in one article to another article where that person clearly is mentioned by name. I don't get your point about the years. Did you not read about Niels T in the article on Stanley T before you did this, twice? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:43, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SergeWoodzing did you not realize that your an idiot who can't read? (For clarification, the two don't even have the same damn last name's!) Thebrakeman2 (talk) 14:00, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you had read the whole sentence you would have seen that their surnames indeed were the same in the USA. If you will read up a bit on no personal attacks you might want to stop calling anyone an idiot. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:56, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Read the gravestone surname, then read the surname of his grandfather ya stupid Swede. Thebrakeman2 (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Left gravestone clearly reads "TRUHLSEN" on top. Right is his sister's. That's in the caption. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:01, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

His grandfather is "Truedsson"; the gravestone says "Truhlsen". And even if you were right, it still doesn't link to the man's Wiki page, because he doesn't have one; it's his distant relative's page. When would you ever link a page to someone's name, when said page has barely a blurb on them? Thebrakeman2 (talk) 15:11, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You will never know the fact that both grandfather and grandson had the same surname unless you read the whole sentence in the grandson's article about the grandfather. I believe the link is appropriate. That can be discussed with others now on the article's talk page. I recommend a civil tone there. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:17, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SergeWoodzing Civil Tone my ass. Thebrakeman2 (talk) 15:26, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

David Bennett Sr.

Hey there! I was just wondering why you seem so aggressive regarding the possible deletion of the David Bennett Sr. article. I have seen your contributions to the deletion page, and you seem to be arguing with redundant points; your arguments are invalid via WP:CRIME and WP:WAX.

Also, I wouldn't be calling people "idiots who can't read" when you use the wrong "your" and "name's". ;) Cheers! Fakescientist8000 (did I do something wrong? let me know! | what i've been doing) 14:26, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would point out that you still got the point of my text, even with the 'errors', so they don't really matter, but it probably be lost on you.

Anyways, fuck off and have a bad day. Thebrakeman2 (talk) 14:35, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::::His grandfather is "Truedsson"; the gravestone says "Truhlsen". And even if you were right, it still doesn't link to the man's Wiki page, because he doesn't have one; it's his distant relative's page. When would you ever link a page to someone's name, when said page has barely a blurb on them? [[User:Thebrakeman2|Thebrakeman2]] ([[User talk:Thebrakeman2#top|talk]]) 15:11, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 ::::::You will never know the fact that both grandfather and grandson had the same surname unless you read the '''whole sentence''' in the grandson's article about the grandfather. I believe the link is appropriate. That can be discussed with others now on the article's talk page. I recommend a civil tone there. --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 15:17, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
+:::::::{{u|SergeWoodzing}} Civil Tone my ass. [[User:Thebrakeman2|Thebrakeman2]] ([[User talk:Thebrakeman2#top|talk]]) 15:26, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 == David Bennett Sr. ==