Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Baku Ibne, et al./Evidence

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Evidence presented by Tabib

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Evidence presented by LIGerasimova

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Evidence presented by Tony Sidaway

Trying to sort the muddle of evidence into something that can be analysed. there is a lot of this stuff so it will probably take all weekend at least.

If I were completely comprehensive and listed every single act vandalism, personal attack, or whatever, this might be indigestible, so I'm focusing on attention paid to User:Tabib by a page vandal and his putative socks; some collateral damage to admins and other users who intervened to fix vandalism.

A very cursory treatment of what has been done in articlespace, I just don't have enough spare time and it isn't my subject. I think the evidence is strongly suggestive of one person, LIGerasimova/Baku Ibne/Osmanoglou/Dubistdas LetzteArschloch/and whatever else, being behind the vandalism and extreme personal attacks.

28 Jan

• 15:13
  • Safavids: Start of content dispute over cleanup performed on this article by User:Tabib, to which longstanding contributor User:Pantherosa objected [2]. Seems to have continued until 9 Feb.

31 Jan

• 14:45
  • Nagorno-Karabakh: Start of content dispute apparently between principally User:64.136.2.254 and User:Rovoam on one side, and User:Cantus and User:Tabib and others on the other. Warring continues sporadically between two competing versions for over a month.

01 Feb

• 18:19
  • Appearance of the shortlived editor User:Deli-Eshek. Posts personal attacks on Talk:Safavids and suggests that there is evidence that despite being culturally Turkish, Ismail i Safavi was of Kurdish ancestry.
  • Not thought by me to be a sock--most likely just an editor with an interest in the field whose first experience of Wikipedia must have been very shocking--we probably lost him for good.

07 Feb

• 22:14
  • Appearance of the shortlived editor User:Ulvi I.. On Talk:Safavids, makes citations from sources such as The Cambridge History of Iran, Iran. Past and Present: From Monarchy to Islamic Republic by Donald N. Wilber, and IRAN, The Modern Nations in Historical Perspectives by Yahya Armajani to support his argument, and Tabib's, that the Safavids were Turks. Makes some contributions to the RFC against LIGerasimova. No other edits. contributions.
  • Speculation: Could be a benign sock of Tabib? Possibly like Deli-Eshek was just driven away by the extreme attacks and stuff.

08 Feb

• 13:30
  • WP:RFAR: User:Tabib files an arbitration petition concerning reverts and picture deletions he says were performed on Safavids by Pantherarosa in a content dispute [3].

09 Feb

• 05:49
  • User:Deli-Eshek: Tabib posts a message on Deli-Eshek's user page asking him not to dispute with User:Ulver I. [4].
• 22:52
  • Talk:Safavids User:84.154.123.111 makes a comment signing him or herself as "L. I. GERASIMOVA" [5].
• 23:24
  • Talk:Safavids User:LIGerasimova, in his or her first edit, adds the signature [[User:LIGerasimova|LIGerasimova]] to that comment [6].
  • This suggests that LIGerasimova could be a sock puppet of Osmanoglou. The IP range used by both apparently belongs to German ISP T-Mobile.

10 Feb

• 09:27
  • Talk:Safavids: User:LIGerasimova accuses Tabib of forming a Turkish Mafia, trying to "corrupt the editor Deli-Eshek (another "Turkish Cause" poster, above) and asked him to get in touch by email", and using another editor "Ulvi I.", as a sock puppet [7].
• 09:49
  • WP:RFAR: User:LIGerasimova accuses User:Tabib of "apparently rigging postings...teaming up with "buddies" and apparently tries to enforce POV, in cahouts with them and possible sock-puppets" [8].

12 Feb

• 12:03
  • Wikipedia:Requests for comment/LIGerasimova: Tabib launches RFC on LIGerasimova's conduct.

15 Feb

• 21:04
  • Nagorno-Karabakh: User:64.136.2.254 redirects article to [[Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh. Brief revert war with User:Davenbelle follows [9].

16 Feb

• 12:14
  • User:Tabib: User:84.154.54.194 edits user page of User:Tabib to replace the phrase "Member of Wikipedia" with "Silent member of Wikipedia". [10]. Only recorded edit from this IP number. contributions

17 Feb

• 22:15
  • User:Tabib: User:84.154.77.120 edits user page of User:Tabib to add the phrase ", and excelling in Turkish dance." [11]. Only other recorded edit from this IP number is vandalization of Shah at 22:56 the same day [12]. contributions

20 Feb

• 22:31
  • Safavids: User:84.154.91.20 vandalizes article [13]

24 Feb

• 14:13
  • WP:VIP: User:Tabib files fairly comprehensive vandalism report listing User:84.154.104.16, User:84.154.91.20, User:84.154.102.141, User:84.154.63.43, User:84.154.114.240, User:84.154.109.26 and User:84.154.126.152 as vandals on Safavids [14].
• 14:45
  • WP:VIP: Reply to vandalism report, by User:DJ Clayworth giving advice to let the vandal know he's been spotted [15]
• 23:04
  • User:Tabib: User:84.154.82.86 edits user page of User:Tabib to add the signed message: "And the most Turkic turkey of all Turkic turkeys in the Turkic turkey association of Baku, capital of Turkic turkeys. (Beware of Turkic turkey bird flue" [16]
• 23:07
  • User:84.154.82.86: User edits own user page to bear the words "Turkic turkey hunter" [17] Only two edits from this IP address. contributions.
  • These two edits are only contributions by this user. contributions

25 Feb

• 10:24
  • WP:VIP: User:Tabib responds on his thread about vandalism by User:84.154.104.16 with information and thanks to those who helped him [18].
• 12:09
  • User:Tabib: User:84.154.50.175 edits user page of User:Tabib to change phrase "Wikibooks community" to "Wikibooks DancingTurkey community" [19].
• 13:44
  • User:Tabib: User:84.154.50.175 edits user page of User:Tabib to read "Turkey of Wikipedia, Wikiquote, and Wikibooks poultry division" (one main edit, one tweak) [20], [21].
• 13:53
  • WP:VIP: User:84.154.50.175 comments on vandalism report by User:Tabib, referring to Tabib and User:AllyUnion as "the WIKIPEDIA chief turkey and his ornithophile friend" [22].

26 Feb

• 21:58
  • User:Osmanoglou: Osmanoglou's first ever edit. Places text "ötünü sikeyim!", evidently Turkish, meaning unknown, on his own user page. [23]
• 22:00
  • User:Tabib: Second ever edit by Osmanoglou. Edits user page of User:Tabib to replace the phrase "Member of Wikipedia" with "Ibne of Wikipedia". The word Ibne is apparently a common Turkish insult roughly equivalent to "faggot", meaning male homosexual [24]
  • External reference for meaning of Ibne: [25]
• 22:08
  • User talk:Tabib: Third ever edit by Osmanoglou. Replaces text "Be Bold!" in welcome message from User:Sam Spade with "Be Bold when servicing the Ibne Tabib, as he loves that." [26].
• 22:15
  • User talk:John Fader: John Fader had reverted much of the vandalism to User:Tabib userpage. Osmanoglou edited his userpage here to say "I am the "girlfriend" of Tabib, another Ibne."[27]
• 23:48
  • Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress: Osmanoglou added a spurious report falsely implicating User:Tabib in the Pelican shit/Bugger vandalism, forging his edit signature as [[User:LilliMarlene|LilliMarlene]] [28].

27 Feb

• 00:41
  • User talk:Osmanoglou: User:Rhobite cautions Osmanoglou for issuing spurious reports to WP:VIP, "vandalizing pages and attacking Tabib" [29].
• 06:04
  • User talk:Osmanoglou: User:RickK writes "Don't vandalize other Users' User pages. Don't edit other User's comments on Talk pages."
• 13:55
  • Wikipedia:Requests for mediation: Tabib requests mediation to resolve the dispute between himself and User:Rovoam over Nagorno-Karabakh [30].
• 15:05
  • User:Tabib: User:84.154.88.59. "Ibne dancing Baku turkey" white-on-red highlighting [31].
  • Only edit performed by this user. contributions
• 15:11
  • User:Tabib: User:Osmanoglou. Tweak to wording. "Ibne dancer in Baku and turkey" [32].
• 15:23
  • User:Osmanoglou: Osmanoglou applies the white-on-red highlighting to his user page text "ötünü sikeyim!" [33].
• 15:26
  • Snowspinner blocked "User:Osmanoglou" with an expiry time of 24 hours (Personal attacks, disruption, etc.)
• 18:46
  • User talk:Osmanoglou: User:84.154.122.26 edits talk page of Osmanoglou, fairly complex edit but the main import seems to be to append the phrases "(Tabib's girlfriend)" "(Tabib's boy friend)" and "(Tabib's lover)" to various signatures and add the words at the end of the talk page: "Vandals stop messing with this page!" [34].
• 18:48
  • User talk:Osmanoglou: User:84.154.122.26 edits talk page of Osmanoglou, restoring text "ötünü sikeyim!" which seems to have been inadvertently removed in the previous edit [35]
  • These were the only two edits of User:84.154.122.26 contributions
• 19:03
  • Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.122.26" with an expiry time of 24 hours (osmanoglou - userpage vandalism and personal attacks)
• 19:04
  • User talk:Osmanoglou: User:84.154.73.216? edits talk page of Osmanoglou, changing text "'ötünü sikeyim!" to "IBNELER, ötünü sikeyim!". Speculation: ibneler is possibly the Turkish plural of Ibne, "faggot" [36].
  • Only edit by this user. contributions
• 19:06
  • Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.73.216" with an expiry time of 24 hours (osmanoglou - userpage vandalism and personal attacks)
• 19:08
  • Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.89.141" with an expiry time of 24 hours (osmanoglou - userpage vandalism and personal attacks)
• 19:13
  • Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.0.0/16?" with an expiry time of 4 hours (No choice but to block this range. It's a t-online dialup in Germany, used by persistent vandal osmanoglou)

28 Feb

• 18:19
  • User talk:Osmanoglou. Osmanoglou changes text "ötünü sikeyim!" (white-on-red) to "IBNELER ötünü sikeyim!"[37]
• 18:37
  • User talk:Snowspinner: User:Photographer puts personal attack on Snowspinner's user talk page, forging signature as [[User:Rhobite|Rhobite]] [38].
• 18:40
  • User talk:Rhobite: User:Photographer puts identical personal attack on Rhobite's user talk page, forging signature as [[User:RickK|RickK]] [39].
• 18:42
  • User talk:RickK: User:Photographer puts personal attack on RickK's user talk page, forging signature as [[User:Rhobite|Rhobite]] [40].
  • These three edits were User:Photographer's only edits contributions.
• 18:43
  • Rhobite blocked "User:Photographer" with an expiry time of indefinite (userpage vandal)
• 18:49
  • Rhobite blocked "User:Osmanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (Osmanoglou / photographer. Safavids vandal. repeated personal attacks and userpage vandalism)
• 18:49
  • Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.0.0/16" with an expiry time of 2 hours (Osmanoglou / photographer. Safavids vandal. repeated personal attacks and userpage vandalism. Range block, short term)
• 23:19
  • Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Rovoam takes a page that was previously a redirect to Nagorno-Karabakh and puts an article there. A revert war ensues, continuing into mid-March history list of article.
• 23:23
  • Wikipedia:AMA_Requests_for_Assistance: User:Jwrosenzweig requests an advocate on behalf of his mediation clients User:Tabib and User:Rovoam [41].

01 Mar

• 23:13
  • Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Baku Ibne posts troll message purporting to defend Tabib from attackers [42].

02 Mar

• 07:21-07:41
  • Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib describes the scale of the sock puppet attacks on him [43] and subsequent edits.
• 09:46
  • Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh User:Baku Ibne called User:Tabib "100 percent Ibne". [44]
• 09:48
  • User talk:Tabib. Repetition of the same comment on user talk page [45].
• 11:05
  • WP:VIP: Baku Ibne posts spurious complaint: "Unsavory advances by vandal Tabib" [46].
• 16:20
  • until 10:36 on 3 Mar. User:Twinkletoes makes some minor taunts about Turks, emotionality and dancing on Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh and User talk:Tabib. Few contributions, brief lifespan. Possible sock puppet. contributions.
• 19:09-22:43
  • Abrupt appearance and short posting life of User:Kiramtu Kunettabib, who posts a testimonial to User:LIGerasimova, who he names as Luba Ivanovna Gerasimova and says "is well known to me." Also posts personal attacks on Tabib on Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh and then just vanishes into the ether [47].
• 20:08
  • Rhobite blocked "User:64.136.2.254?" with an expiry time of 24 hours (osmanoglou - anti-turkish vandal)
• 21:31
  • User talk:Rovoam: User:KeithTyler as advocate notifies Rovoam of Tabib's request for mediation [48].

03 Mar

• 04:22
  • User talk:Rovoam Rovoam declines mediation [49].

04 Mar

• 10:40
  • Brief appearance of shortlived editor User:Dubistdas Letztearschloch who makes personal attacks on User:Tabib on WP:RFM, User talk:Tabib and WP:RFAR, calling him a psychopath etc, [50]., [51] and [52]. Few other edits. Total editing lifespan is just over one hour. contributions. Name seems to be composed of the German phrase "du bist das letzte Arschloch", which presumably means "you are the last asshole."

10 Mar

• 22:51
  • User:Ossmanoglou: User Ossmanoglou posts spurious block notice to his own userpage [53] (presumably an attempt to forestall blocking).
• 23:03-23:06
  • User talk:Grunt: User:Ossmanoglou makes personal attacks on Grunt and Rhobite, titled "Sucking a cock a day keeps the urge away!" [54] (diff over three edits).
• 23:14
  • User talk:Tabib: User:Ossmanoglou repeats attack on Grunt and Rhobite , saying "It applies to you too, literally!" to User:Tabib [55]
• 23:21
  • Rhobite blocked "User:Ossmanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (vandal)

11 Mar

• 23:48 (previous day), 00:05, 00:09
  • User:Othmanoglou vandalizes image and user page of User:Rhobite. Sole edits by this user contributions.
• 00:25
  • Rhobite blocked "User:Othmanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (osmanoglou)
• 09:33, 19:52
  • User:Rhobite: User:Osmaanoglou vandalizes user page of Rhobite
• 11:16
  • User talk:Osmaanoglou: Standard welcome message from User:Sam Spade [56].
• 19:48, 19:49
  • User talk:Sam Spade: User:Osmaanoglou puts a message on Sam Spade's user talk page: "As I will be surely blocked soon by an itchy (tight) youngster, there won't be much editing from me, though" then comes back and signs it [57], [58].
• 20:24
  • Rhobite blocked "User:Osmaanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (persistent vandal)

12 Mar

• 08:28
  • User:Rhobite: User:Outhmanoglou vandalizes edit page of Rhobite. Sole edit by this user. contributions.
• 08:28
  • Rhobite blocked "User:Outhmanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (osmanoglou)
• 17:28
  • Template:User_Tony_Sidaway/User. User:Oussmannoglou alters photo to faked picture of Saddam Hussein being tortured [59].
• 18:24
  • Tony Sidaway blocked "User:Oussmannoglou?" with an expiry time of indefinite (Returning page vandal osmanoglou Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Baku_Ibne,_et_al./Evidence)

There we go, Toni Sidaway!

I knew you'd like it side a'ways up your itchy rectum. Ouch, that Sad Hussy picture hurt?! Well you are Toni SIDE Aways and not Toni UPSIDE DOWN. So don't worry, we know you need it sidaways and we trust you enjoy it.

How about sucking your friend Baku Ibne? I bet he'd like that. I am not sure about L.I. Gerasimova with her unshaved legs and haemoroid ridden Russian arsehole (Strazd vu'itye!). Almost looks like a Toni Siaways impersonater, save for her lack of excessive miyopia!!!!

Anyway, take TABIB's little cock up your itchy rump, as well as Snowspinner's and John Fader's. Naturally only side a'ways, needless to say! Grunt (sus scrofa phonetics?) prefers you sucking him, Rhobite (Raw Bite) will confirm that, as he busily slurps away on the boy all day. Take turns you guys or speak to arbcom for some salomonian ruling on this (lip smacking) subject.

Don't forget to report this mail on Baku Ibne et al EVIDENCE page, as those rim jobbers there love to hear about it.

Suck it boy, do!

Sincerely,

Osmanoglou from Dyarbakir!

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