User talk:SlimVirgin/History 2

Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper. — Robert Frost

Talk archives 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 Request for your wisdom Hi SV, I am worried about a personal war brewing between myself and a specifc user. After some reflection, I realized that for two reasons, you are the best person for me to contact about this. The first reason is that in our only brief interaction, we civilly disagreed (it was a dispute over whether or not to label David Irving as a Holocaust Denier in the lead section). The second reason will become quite obvious to you. If you would, please follow the diffs to some context, the rantings of a user with whom I'm engaged in mediation, but not the one I'm asking you to advise on: [1] and [2] and after-the-fact. Then please observe: an admin's response to an unknown query by the other user': admin's answer, followed by other user's (vague?) response on the admin's talk page, which I actually responded to but then later responded to the admin's answer (above) with my 2 cents, advice that provoked the user in question. This was followed by removal (see comment) and by remarks on my page The above two links are what I really want to ask you about. Is his perception well-founded? Was my implication in bad faith? My initial apology was followed by his rebuke, which I would call "scathing". The last sentence was, I believe, a throw-back at an inside joke and not really relevant here, but it does indicate tone. I subsequently apologized, for which I have not seen a response. Am I right to see his above "rebuke" as such? Does he have a point, or is this a case of "shoot the messenger". Your input is greatly appreciated in advanced. --Otheus 12:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC) I recognize you are probably very busy, but I thought I would remind you of my request, not that I want a hasty response. --Otheus 13:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC) Swine Image Hi SlimVirgin, perhaps I jumped the gun a bit on removing the swine gestation photo. Sorry if I moved a bit fast. There are many modes in which swine is gestated and this photo is certainly be the extreme (even in industrial agriculture). The photo undoubtably paints a negative image of the idea of industrial agriculture (maybe it is difficult ot paint it iin any other light). As you well know, this article is about objectively explianing what industrial ag is and not critisizing it.Perhaps another shot of a nursery or a growing barn might be more objective? What do you think? Can we collaborate on finding another shot?--Agrofe 19:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC) BOT - Regarding your recent protection of Monkey: You recently protected[3] this page but did not give a protection summary. If this is an actual (not deleted) article, talk, or project page, make sure that it is listed on WP:PP. VoABot will automatically list such protected pages only if there is a summary. Do not remove this notice until a day or so, otherwise it may get reposted. Thanks. VoABot 23:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC) IPA pronunciations please stop removing them. If you find them difficult to understand, see International Phonetic Alphabet and IPA Chart for English. If you have a problem with the guidelines regarding use of the IPA, discuss it at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (pronunciation). --Krsont 00:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC) *actually stops and looks at what other people are doing for a change* ah.. I see you didn't actually delete the IPA transcription on the page Shih Tzu as you did wth Piri Reis... I apologise for my pointless reversions then. My emotional state. --Krsont 00:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC) 172. vandal Notwithstanding our differences elsewhere, thank you. CJCurrie 00:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC) WP:ATT Synthesis example Hi there. I see you've reverted my removal of the example of synthesis in WP:ATT again. Please could you respond to my request for you to clarify your objections on the article talk page, which I had left there a couple of days before you reverted, and which you still haven't responded to. Thanks, Enchanter 11:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC). SlimVirgin that's enough thanks Stop harrassing me and stop making personal attacks against me. Your latest comment on User:Quadell's page [4] is totally uncalled for. I was invited to discuss the issue by Kirbytime [5], and I also felt slurred by your friend Jayjg's comments and have every right to express that opinion. You're not my mother, and actually you were not involved in the discussion at hand. Once again, you butted in to only to make unfounded accusations against me. Might I remind you that I'm still waiting for an apology from you for the last time that happened [6]. So spare me your moralizing. Tiamut 13:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC) e-mail sent you mail. see this: http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2007/03/12/atzmons_triumph.php Zeq 14:37, 17 March 2007 (UTC) Angela Cannings Hi, Slim. I'm glad you removed that speculation from the talk page. I nearly did. I was looking at it doubtfully, wondering shall I?, before adding the BLP box. I eventually decided not to, but I hope you didn't think that my adding a header for a section was an endorsement of what was there. Also, I wasn't quite sure of the correct way to tag a BLP talk page, so I asked a question here. Cheers. ElinorD (talk) 23:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC) edits to header I'm not understanding your edits to the header, they are needed to remind of policy. Please clarify. Navou banter / contribs 04:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC) Lets discuss these changes on this talk page. I disagree with your changes and have chosen to revert them, they are bold, but I disagree with them. Navou banter / contribs 16:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC) == Islam and slavery lead == Dear interested editor: Please visit here: [7] in the next few days and give your vote and your proposals on how the lead may be reworked and reformed to meet GA criteria before next nomination.DavidYork71 05:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC) Request for UserTalk archive removal I recently set up a more efficient numbering system for my archives and, having transferred my data from the old ones to the new, would now like to remove the old archives. The archives in question are named as follows: /Archive 1 /Archive 2: CoM edits & Learning Curve /Archive 2.5: More CoM & Learning Curve /Archive 3:More Learning Curve I remember that I am supposed to ask an admin to remove them for me, and simply deleting them from my Talk Page doesn't actually get rid of them. If I could impose upon you to do this, I would appreciate it, :) -Arcayne 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC) FYI You may wish to protect the user page as well, let me know if the way I did it was appropriate: DIFF. Thanks for your time. Yours, Smee 01:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC). Mothers accused of killing babies Hi, Slim. Thanks for your note about Trupti Patel. It was funny, because I was intending to ask you to take a look at the article, and mercilessly remove anything that might not be in accordance with WP:BLP. (I had slight doubts about using "controversial" for Sir Roy, when we don't use it for a certain scatologically infamous person, but I felt it was important to report that he was someone who had a bit of a reputation for giving evidence that helped to convict women who were later cleared.) I need to expand on the grandmother section later, as it's not clearly stated at the moment that part of the case against Patel and others was that people believed that a second baby dying of natural causes in the same family was automatically suspicious, unless there was some genetic defect. I seem to recall that when Angela Cannings was appealing, new evidence came out that her grandmother had lost children in infancy. That hadn't been known at the time of the original trial. Anyway, I have two questions. One concerns Donna Anthony, about whom there is currently no article. Although Trupti Patel isn't as famous as Sally Clark or Angela Canning (they were both in jail for years, with husbands and support groups launching appeals, whereas Patel only had media attention between being charged and being acquitted, or shortly after), I did feel she was notable enough for an article. I don't feel that Donna Anthony is equally famous, and yet it's the same kind of case — a woman who reported more than one cot death, was arrested for murder, convicted partly through Sir Roy's evidence, imprisoned, and subsequently cleared. You can read about her here. I think the reason she's not more famous is that she had no husband or family fighting for her (her mother died while she was in prison), so she was just forgotten about, while people were making big noise about Clark and Cannings. Do you think she's notable enough for an article? If you think there should be one, I'll give it a go, but I don't want to clutter up Wikipedia writing biographies of people that nobody has ever heard of. The other question relates to a suitable category. I feel that there should be some category in Trupti Patel that would also include Clark and Cannings, and Donna Anthony, if I or someone else starts an article about her. Clark and Cannings are both in Category:British wrongfully convicted people, and Donna Anthony would be there as well, but Patel can't be, as she wasn't convicted. I think there should be some category for cases of mothers accused of killing their babies. It would include Lindy Chamberlain, who is in Category:Wrongfully convicted people. While I realise that Wikipedia is not meant to decide that anyone is innocent just because she was acquitted, I really have in mind cases where the mother was clearly innocent, or where a lot of people believed her to be so. I don't had in mind cases like Andrea Yates. But I'm sure there have been many cases of mothers accused of murdering their babies because people didn't believe the explanation they gave for the deaths. I can only think of the four British cases, though, and Lindy Chamberlain. Do you think it would be appropriate to create Category:Mothers accused of killing their babies? How many articles would normally have to be in a category to justify that category's existence? Thanks. ElinorD (talk) 03:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Your reverting Slim, I've read the source, and it doesn't argue that the Netanyahu protest was anti-Semitic. I'm not "changing what the source says"; I'm removing material that isn't directly related to the subject matter. Please stop returning it. CJCurrie 03:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Can we discuss this calmly, please? It's evident that there's a content dispute here; I don't appreciate your efforts to portray my edits as somehow "disruptive". CJCurrie 04:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC) InShanee dispute Re your comments on the talk page of the decision, I support you in the strongest possible terms. I'm sure that a lot of other admins will be horrified - and somewhat rattled - if the arbcom goes down the wrong path on this one; I know I will be. Metamagician3000 03:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Missed a page In deleting the pages listed at the MFD, I think you missed the main one, User:Otheus/sarfati; I've deleted it for you. Feel free to restore it if I am mistaken or out of line. Thanks. FeloniousMonk 03:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)