User talk:Sm1969

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hunger

Articles regarding ongoing enterprises

2) The principles of editing articles about ongoing enterprises are analogous to those which govern Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. As applied to this matter, unsourced or poorly sourced negative material may be removed without discussion, such removal being an exception to the 3 revert rule Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Remove_unsourced_criticism. This extension of policy is based on the proposition that any unsourced or poorly sourced negative material is potentially harmful.

Passed 6 to 0 at 14:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply

Given the extensive edit war between multiple users, protection seems a simpler remedy then issuing tons of blocks. Hopefully a consensus can be reached or dispute resolution sought, and it won't need to remain long. However, blocking is meant to be a protective measure, not punitive, so blocking someone when they already can no longer engage in disruptive behavior would serve no purpose. Good luck on working it out! Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 05:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

What blocking does do is add to the "block log" for this particular user so as dispute resolutions are used, it is possible to show the true character of an editor over long periods of time. User:Smeelgova has had arbitrations before on a related topic "The Hunger Project" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hunger) and a comment by Wikipedia general counsel Brad Patrick, "I'm not the best person to respond to this given my role, but I can tell you that the pattern of editing that you have engaged in over the past month, with your selection of articles, POV (in my estimation) and tendency to edit in only a very narrow area warrant very careful evaluation of exactly what it is you are doing. I just took a look at the page you put together on Harry Margolis and your choice of supposedly "relevant" legal items, and I'm really not sure what you are up to except grinding an axe. I believe you are going to be called out for your viewpoint. You might want to ask yourself if, as the userpage of User:Essjay asks, with every click of the "save page" button you are making Wikipedia a better place. Are you?--BradPatrick 23:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

That quote is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Archive_6

My response to your comment is that Smeelgova should be blocked whenever she engages in 3RR, particularly when both the letter and spirit are violated, as is the case here. This is how a track record is built. When mediation and arbitration are invoked, the track record is will get taken into consideration. When Smee/Smeelgova is allowed to apologize her way out of it, there is no track record. That's the problem I have with protection only. Sm1969 05:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Trouble with Smee

I see that you seem to be experiencing the same edit-warring and 3RR violation problems with Smee that I have experienced. If you need diffs of my experiences just let me know. --Justanother 16:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• A Scientologist conspiring with a Landmark graduate, who would have thought? Please leave me alone and cut out the personal attacks, I am trying to avoid conflict with the both of you. Please respect that. Thanks. Smee 16:47, 21 March 2007 (UTC).