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Israeli humanitarian aid to Gaza

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This article is in breach of WP:NPOV and is perhaps one of the most extreme examples of WP:BIAS I've encountered in over 15 years of editing (including editing in areas related to The Troubles in Northern Ireland!) It attempts to paint one side in the conflict as donors of humanitarian aid, and the recipients as probable terrorists and criminals. No attempt at WP:BALANCE has been made.

Examples:

• Mention of 1,400 Israelis massacred; absolutely no mention of the 29,000 (at time of writing) Palestinian civilians massacred.
• Uncritical presentation of statistics. Since the start of the war "9066 trucks of supplies entered Gaza" sounds impressive. But it's only 85 trucks a day, for an area with a population of >590,000. One truck per 6,900 people!
• No mention of who was actually supplying the aid, the implication it's Israel. It isn't, in the vast majority of cases, it's aid organisations.
• Absolutely no mention of the fact that much of Gaza, including hospitals and clinics, has been left without fuel, food and water, all widely covered in Western media.
• The article starts in 2005, but does not mention the blockade of Gaza, the prohibition on importing goods such as shampoo, paper, chocolate, etc, that was ongoing until at least 2010.

In short, the article is incredibly one-sided and beyond saving in it's current form. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:40, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Keep This article touches on an extremely important topic that has not yet been presented in the English Wikipedia. I don't see how the arguments they put forward for deletion are relevant. Yes, the article is in its infancy and materials are missing here. The right way to solve this is as always in Wikipedia - to expand the article, bring additional positions and opinions, and promote the article as a community.

Regarding the claims by Bastun:

1. The 1400 dead were mentioned in a certain context and not in the context of the statistics on the war.
2. The entry of the trucks began long after the start of the war, therefore your statistics are incorrect. In addition - these days Israel is helping a nation that is currently holding 133 hostages. There are Israelis who claim that 85 trucks a day without receiving compensation is a violation of the Israeli hostages.
3. Bastun right, it's worth adding
4. I'm not sure how relevant this is to this particular article.
5. I can add, I don't see this as a figure that affects the desire to delete the article.

Eladkarmel (talk) 13:27, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment to closing admin that Eladkarmel is the page creator. Jebiguess (talk) 23:15, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Delete: Agreed. A pretty disreputable combo of POV and proseline. Resolving the glaring imbalance issues here would undoubtedly require more effort than was put into the slapdash medley of one-sided content that currently exists. As Bastun also notes, most of the stuff headed into Gaza either from Israel or elsewhere is not "Israeli", so not even the title works. Humanitarian aid in Gaza could certainly be a viable topic, but this is not that; this appears to be some sort of attempt to gloss Israel as a benevolent provider of aid (ironically at a time when it is anything but, and is in fact a prevaricator of aid). A time-wasting POV creation to which WP:TNT and a stern trouting very much applies. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Reads like a feel-good exercise for Israel, lacking NPOV. I suppose it could be rewritten, but we'd have to TNT, likely not worth the effort. Oaktree b (talk) 16:04, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. A mishmash of sourcing attempting to gloss over the war and make it seem like Israel's role in the war is solely as a benevolent provider of aid to Palestinians instead of an active combatant that has directly and indirectly killed 29,000 people. Israel-Palestine topics are contentious, but this is a perfect example of a biased interpretation of random facts in the name of Israeli propaganda. Jebiguess (talk) 23:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Delete or TNT with new title. My goodness, this article couldn't be a greater NPOV violation if it was written by the Israeli Department of Misinformation. Ordinary trade in "peaceful" times is presented as humanitarian aid, and the tiny trickle allowed in due to international pressure during the current war, leaving thousands hungry, is presented as Israeli largesse. As far as I'm aware, none of this "aid" is paid for by Israel so calling it "Israeli aid" is not only non-neutral but objectively false. Zero^talk 00:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Delete POV nonsense. Even a cursory glance at sources is demonstrative of Israel obstructing humanitarian supplies to Gaza. Selfstudier (talk) 10:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

  Delete An article full of lies. Why not delete it immediately? As long as it stays on Wikipedia it's a shame.Rajoub570 (talk) 13:40, 23 January 2024 (UTC)