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The OSCE Minsk Group is effectively defunct

Hello.

After the rest of Nagorno-Karabakh was taken over by Azerbaijan in late September/early October of 2023, the OSCE Minsk Group, which was established to solve the conflict, has been rendered defunct. One could argue that it became defunct after the end of the Second Nagorno-Karabakh War with the ceasefire and provisions agreed by Azerbaijan, Armenia, Russia. That the OSCE Minsk Group is for all purposes dead, needs to be mentioned in the article.

Yours sincerely, Multituberculata (talk) 07:32, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I agree that MG is defunct, and has been defunct since 2020 war. But do we have a reliable source to support that information? You know the rules, we can only write in the articles what reliable sources say. Grandmaster 09:28, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I have not found any announcements and news sources about this. Perhaps there are news about this in Azerbaijani and Russian news websites, but I don't know these languages. Multituberculata (talk) 10:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I will look for sources. But to my knowledge news sources do not state that MG is defunct, it is usually an analysis given by experts. I'll see what I can find. Grandmaster 08:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Multituberculata (talk) 14:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Officially MG did not cease to exist, since it made no declaration of its dissolution. But the Russian foreign minister said that MG was dead, and it is one of the co-chair states, and the MG was inactive for the last couple of years, especially after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And well-known analysts like Paul Goble talk about "suspension, if not complete collapse" of the MG [1]. So I believe we could probably cite the opinions of analysts who consider the MG to be defunct, and say that some believe the MG to be suspended. But I think it is better to continue this discussion at the talk of the article and see what other users say. Grandmaster 23:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, this should be discussed in the talk page. For all purposes, the OSCE Minsk Group is dead rather than suspended, even though no formal declaration has been made about officially dissolving it. For example, when Putin announced that the Minsk Agreements were dead and launched the invasion of Ukraine, that article has been written in the past tense ever since. There has been no formal declaration about a formal dissolution of the Minsk Agreements, but they are dead. Regardless, of the status and technicality, this article too should eventually be written in the past tense, after this is discussed in the talk page and agreed upon. I wish you a Happy New Year. Multituberculata (talk) 09:42, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I wish the same to you. I will post my comment at talk of the article. Grandmaster 09:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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