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[[Image:Prokudin-Gorskii-54.jpg|thumb|right|Jewish children with their teacher in [[Samarkand]], before 1915. 'Nuff said. [[User:Etz Haim|Etz Haim]] 20:08, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC) ]] |
[[Image:Prokudin-Gorskii-54.jpg|thumb|right|Jewish children with their teacher in [[Samarkand]], before 1915. 'Nuff said. [[User:Etz Haim|Etz Haim]] 20:08, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC) ]] |
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i've done a good bit of research on central asia. a large proportion of the population is of various turkic ethnic groups. |
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'return' to israel
I have changed the section of the article that claim bukarian jews "returned" to israel, because one can not return to a place they have never been. This is an encyclopedia not an arena to voice ones particular convictions.
central asia
i've done a good bit of research on central asia. a large proportion of the population is of various turkic ethnic groups.
and then there are the bukharan jews. i've just begun to learn about these people. mostly, i've listened to some bukharan jewish music over the internet.
it looks like tibet is also in this general area.
Gringo300 06:06, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Could it be that Jewish migration was caused by an opportunity of better living standards rather than (or as well as-?) "abrupt growth of nationalism, chauvinism and xenophobia" and "rapid revival of Islamic culture" in Uzbekistan? Especially when the destination countries considered - USA and Israel, which are far from Uzbekistan, but have considerably higher living standards. This part of the article sounds biased, anti-Uzbek and anti-Islamic. I am replacing "rapid revival of Islamic culture" with "advent of Islamic fundamentalism" myself, which is also consistent with History of Uzbekistan article and at least keeps mainstream Islamic culture out of this business. Filanca 12:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, I might be wrong, and I´m not an expert on the topic, but I noticed there is a C mark for copyright on most of the pictures on the Bukhara Jews. Although I really appreciate the opportunity to see those, it seems to me to go against Wikipedia rules of licensing photos... I can see they are quite old and shouldn´t be covered ny copyright laws in most countries... but to see that "C" sign is not at all pleasent in the context of wikipedia. Kurogawa.
- Hi. Not to worry. The Jewish Encyclopedia cannot, in fact, claim copyright ownership of the images since they are over 100 years old. El_C 02:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Request for Info
Hi watchers of this page. Does anyone have specific cites on historical persecution of Jews or Judaism in the area of Tajikistan? elizmr 21:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I can't find any cites on the topic but I am a Bukharian Jew from Tajikistan and I could tell you how Jews were persecuted in all of Central Asia. Most Bukharians were in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. They were treated like shit there. Up until the very early 1900s, Jews were forced to convert by the Muslims or they would die. My maternal grandmother, who is from Samarkand, Uzbekistan, told be that the Muslims made the Jews convert and not the Christians, which is not fair. My paternal grandmother's grandmother had parents who were killed when she was very young because they refused to convert to Islam. It was hard for a Jew to be successful in Central Asia, but many of them were. For Kazakhstan, I'm not sure about whether that country was very anti-semitic. My great-grandmother was from Turkistan, Kazakhstan and my grandmother studied and lived their for years and liked it. She was pissed of when "Borat" came out because it showed how uncivilized and anti-semitic Kazakhstan is. She said that Kazkahstan was very civilized and not anti-semitic like the rest of the Central Asian countries. In other countries, not all Jews went to good colleges or colleges at all. When they took the test to get into a college, alot of them were rejected despite their good grades simply because they were Jews. So a Jew had to be 100 times smarter than any Muslim or Christian to go to college. I am so glad that I was born to a family where most people had went to college, including my parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc, despite the prejudice. In 1992, when I was one, my whole family moved to Queens, New York and some to Israel. We and alot of other Bukharian Jews left because of the persecution the Jews faced for 2000 years in those horrible lands and also because there was war during the collapse of the Soviet Union. We left with nothing but the cloth on our back, left the perseuction in Central Asia, and never looked back. Now Central Asians are begging for the Jews to come back because without the Jews, they have nothing and no economy at all. But we had enough of their prejudice and we are staying in the the United States and Israel. We are back with the Jewish world after 2000 years of being cut off from the and we make a successful living as lawyers, doctors, businesspeople, etc, in a short period of time.
The status of Bukhara
Hmm, I suppose it is not really correct to call Bukhara a "Tajik city". I know, it was populated mostly by Tajiks before and even after becoming a part of the Uzbek SSR, but at the moment this city is in Uzbekistan. Bektour 15:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Sarit Hadad is a Gorsky Mountain jew NOT A BUKHARIAN
GOOD JOB!
I'm not sure if the TP is the place to leave praise for articles (probably not...), but I'd like to offer my thanks to the people that helped to build this article because this topic is just so wonderfully interesting and obscure! Per the 'new policy' on the List of Jewish American businesspeople page, I'm going to have to flag the list of notables even though I'm quite sure they would hold up to scrutiny. --WassermannNYC 02:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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