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:The purpose of this guideline is to solve two problems. There are a lot of editors who still think that state highways aren't notable. If there's a consensus-approved guideline to point to, it can save a lot of time at AfD. Secondly, there have recently been a few editors at the various roads WikiProjects now creating articles on ''county highways'', which aren't notable. Thus the purpose of this page is to find a happy medium between the two extremes that everyone at [[WP:USRD]] and Wikipedia as a whole can agree on. -- [[User:Northenglish|'''NORTH''']] <sup>[[User talk:Northenglish|talk]]</sup> 21:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
:The purpose of this guideline is to solve two problems. There are a lot of editors who still think that state highways aren't notable. If there's a consensus-approved guideline to point to, it can save a lot of time at AfD. Secondly, there have recently been a few editors at the various roads WikiProjects now creating articles on ''county highways'', which aren't notable. Thus the purpose of this page is to find a happy medium between the two extremes that everyone at [[WP:USRD]] and Wikipedia as a whole can agree on. -- [[User:Northenglish|'''NORTH''']] <sup>[[User talk:Northenglish|talk]]</sup> 21:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:: Can you demonstrate some AfD examples where the current guidelines have failed? The rules so far seem rather arbitrary and non-WP. --[[User:Kevin Murray|Kevin Murray]] 23:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
:: Can you demonstrate some AfD examples where the current guidelines have failed? The rules so far seem rather arbitrary and non-WP. --[[User:Kevin Murray|Kevin Murray]] 23:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:::[[WP:USRD/P]]. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rschen7754]]''' ([[User_talk:Rschen7754|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|contribs]]) 04:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Good plan. However, the other thing I've thought of is that perhaps a specific notability guideline isn't necessary for other roads. From what I've seen, notability is only really being challenged for US roads, and people are writing articles on non-notable US roads, not country roads in the outskirts of Surrey. |
:::Good plan. However, the other thing I've thought of is that perhaps a specific notability guideline isn't necessary for other roads. From what I've seen, notability is only really being challenged for US roads, and people are writing articles on non-notable US roads, not country roads in the outskirts of Surrey. |
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:::In other words, yes, it would be great for Wikipedia's road coverage to be less US-centric. But at present, this is the guideline that's needed. -- [[User:Northenglish|'''NORTH''']] <sup>[[User talk:Northenglish|talk]]</sup> 01:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
:::In other words, yes, it would be great for Wikipedia's road coverage to be less US-centric. But at present, this is the guideline that's needed. -- [[User:Northenglish|'''NORTH''']] <sup>[[User talk:Northenglish|talk]]</sup> 01:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Currently, we are trying to get the US portion of this guideline decided. After this, we will address the rest of the world. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rschen7754]]''' ([[User_talk:Rschen7754|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|contribs]]) 04:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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Do we really have a problem which requires another guideline? This seems like just more WP:CREEP. --Kevin Murray 21:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- The purpose of this guideline is to solve two problems. There are a lot of editors who still think that state highways aren't notable. If there's a consensus-approved guideline to point to, it can save a lot of time at AfD. Secondly, there have recently been a few editors at the various roads WikiProjects now creating articles on county highways, which aren't notable. Thus the purpose of this page is to find a happy medium between the two extremes that everyone at WP:USRD and Wikipedia as a whole can agree on. -- NORTH talk 21:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Can you demonstrate some AfD examples where the current guidelines have failed? The rules so far seem rather arbitrary and non-WP. --Kevin Murray 23:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Worldwide?
Surely if we're going to have a guideline for the notability of roads, it needs to have a global perspective not just an American one? One Night In Hackney303 23:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm in full agreement with that. However, I don't know who's going to be interested in writing the non-US portion. -- NORTH talk 23:37, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'd have thought Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography would be a good place to ask for UK roads. One Night In Hackney303 23:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Good plan. However, the other thing I've thought of is that perhaps a specific notability guideline isn't necessary for other roads. From what I've seen, notability is only really being challenged for US roads, and people are writing articles on non-notable US roads, not country roads in the outskirts of Surrey.
- In other words, yes, it would be great for Wikipedia's road coverage to be less US-centric. But at present, this is the guideline that's needed. -- NORTH talk 01:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- Currently, we are trying to get the US portion of this guideline decided. After this, we will address the rest of the world. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)