User talk:Gungadin

Image request

Carl Talbot, the bailiff from tonight's episode, needs an image if you could possibly get one, please...? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Got him ( I think I got the right one anyway). Is he going to be a regular? Gungadin 23:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's him, thanks! He might be, if the money troubles continue! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Credits

Could you please look at the credits for today's episode and see the spelling of Pauline's replacement? I think it was Nadeztha, but I can't be sure - also can you find out the actress's name? Thanks. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I just read this, I didnt look at the credits and I dont have the episodes on my harddrive as it's full up. If I remember I will tune in to BBC3 for the repeat later tonight.Gungadin 19:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. :) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that! :) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Vicki Fowler

Do you know whether her name is Victoria or is it just Vicki? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 15:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I havent seen the christening episode so I'm not sure, but walford.net says she was named Vicki after Victoria, because her grandfather was named Albert and Albert was married to Victoria [1]. I assume they're taking about Queen Victoria and her husband Albert. What a stupid way to name a baby. My gran is called Elizabeth, but i'm not going to name my first son Phillip just because Queen Elizabeth is married to Phillip.Gungadin 17:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I heard she was named in Brooklyn Beckham-style - where she was concieved! Both of Michelle's kids were conceived at The Vic! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Robbie Branning/Robbie Bolton

Do you know whether Robbie's birth name was Branning or Bolton? His father, Gary, lived with him, Carol and Bianca for a year after his birth, whereas David Wicks and Terry Cant didn't stick around - so Bianca and Sonia were called Branning until Carol met Alam and they all changed to Jackson... I think it's most likely to be Bolton, so I plan on changing this in hs article, unless you know different... -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 20:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I've no idea i'm afraid. I dont think it was ever mentioned what name they all went by before Alan.Gungadin 20:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:)

(*Best Pete Beale voice*) "Awight, Tweacle?!" Well done for the Phil and Grant OOU sections you've been working on, they're really good, and I want you to know they're really appreciated :)

And why do you hate Pete?! lol -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 14:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

lol, thanks. I thought i'd try and beef up the Grant one like Phil. I just found Pete a bit dire, not really the character but the actor who played him. His voice grated on me. Do you like him then?Gungadin 14:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Not particularly... I found the "Awight, Tweacle" funny - and I like it that they've put it as a sound clip in the Beale or No Beale game! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 5 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jamila Massey, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 14:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Tonight's episode

Did you get tonight's episode on your hard drive by any chance? There were two new characters, Mr. and Mrs. Fuller, but I didn't get their first names, or the actors' names or caps... and I can't get them from UKNova for some reason!! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't see EE last night or record it. There's always the repeats on Sunday though.Gungadin 11:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll try to catch it! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

RE:Phil Mitchell

No, we shouldn't delete it. It is instrumental to the article and the character's history. The GA nazis are just being pedantic. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know about the separate storyline article idea... I don't like the idea on a personal level, and, as you said, I think most people just want to read that part anyway - so it should surely stay in the main article, as it is the most important aspect of the article anyway! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Ricky and Bianca episode

I have got this episode downloaded on my computer. I will rewatch it and adjust the article both on Bianca Jackson's page as well as the spin-offs page if there is any info missing on the Ricky and Bianca's special episode. Shakirfan 02:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

GA

I'll reassess it, later tonite. IvoShandor 22:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Elizabeth Wilmott-Brown

Was she the mother of James' children, or his second wife? In the books, the kids' mother is called Caroline, but I know we take whatever is seen on screen as absolute canon, so was any mention made of her being the kids' mother? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 16:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

She was the mother. The only wife he had as far as I know, though they were divorced.Gungadin 16:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Matilda Ziegler

I noticed that you put up a picture of her from her days in EastEnders. If you have any video footage of her, could you possibly post a link or send it to me? Cheers. Sillygostly 21:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Dot cotton branning.jpg

Why did you upload a new version of this? The one you uploaded is not as clear as the one I uploaded... -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 20:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

it is exactly the same image that you uploaded with the auto levels fixed. Yours was dark [2], not what I would call clear.... Gungadin 21:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Can't think of a title...

Do you already havbe a load of caps of characters ready for when they get an entry on here, or do you wait for them to get an entry before getting the caps? I only ask because you were really quick getting the Aunti Irene and Reg Sparrow ones...

Also, you may be interested in this. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 16:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I take them ready just in case they ever get articles. I have quite a few random people and even more that I deleted as I thought they'd never get an article. i'm regretting deleting them now. That link you put to your sandbox is an empty page.Gungadin 17:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it. :) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 17:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

SO who else do you have in your collection? And what player do you use? I can only capture images if I use QuickTime... -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 18:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I use this player [3] but you need to adjust hardware accelaration to take clear images. It allows you to slow down the player so it's good for taking shots.

Here's the list of random pics I have.

Alistair Matthews; Audrey Whittingham; Barbara (Pete's gf from NZ); Enrico di celmente; Luisa and Bruno di Marco; Beryll; Danny Taurus; Dan zapperini (?); Clive (Sam's bf); Mr Conroy (Marge's bf); Den's gf from the firm (forget her name); Dougie Briggs; Eddie and kerry Skinner; Edie Smith; Frankie Pierre; Guppy Sharma; Hazell (Rod's gf); Jack woodman; Jack Robins; Geoff Barnes; Jessie Moore; Josh Saunders; Julie Haye; Tina Hopkins; Robbie's mate Kevin; Lola Christina; Launa Cartwight; Meena Mckenzie; Mrs Andreos; Sharmilla Kapoor; Mrs Watson (Stephanies mum); Elizabeth Willmott Brown; Henry and Pearl Chadwick; Polly Becker; Reggie Thompson; Rodney Morris; Ros Thorne; some heavy called Scott; Shireen, Sufia, Sohail Karim; Chris Clarke (Simon's bf); Sue Taylor; Terry the builder; Vince Jonhson and Willy Roper Gungadin 19:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Cool, who are Henry and Pearl Chadwick? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:04, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Kofi Tavernier's grndparents. They were only in two or three episodes.Gungadin 19:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Damn, you have to pay to download the player you use! I just found the "10 Years of Albert Square" in a distant folder I'd forgotten about, and wanted to get some caps, but it won't play on QuickTime! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, so I've downloaded VLC player, now how do I do screen cpatures? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Oooh, figured it out, snazzy eh!? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeh it's a lot faster running than WMP too.Gungadin 23:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and I have two pictures stored up! Paul Jenkins and Warren Rice (Anya's immigration officers)! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

First episode

Is it worth trying to download the first episode? Is it any good? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeh it's really interesting seeing how they introduce all the characters. It's definitely worth seeing. It mostly centres around Reg and everyones reaction to his attack. Some of the things they say in the show are quite racist in the 80s. I was thinking of including this in the main article but I couldnt find a reference. I saw an episode the other day where Ethel said " Asians are like mice, you dont mind one or two in the kitchen, but once they are they they tend to bring all their friends." Obviously they hadnt discovered political correctness in the 1980s.Gungadin 21:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

They wouldn't get away with stuff like that now with all the PC police around! Have you seen that they're cutting scenes of baby Tomas crying because viewers were "distressed" BY A BABY CRYING!!? If it's not on UKNova it'll bug me now you've said it's good! You'll have to send me it! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I have a really grainy copy of the first 2 episodes, but I'd be happy to send it to you once I get my new PC. My Dvd burner broke on my current pc, so I cant make you a copy til then though. Unless, is it possible to copy to programmes to CD? I will have a go.

a crying baby is a silly thing to complain about I agree, but the crying was doing my head in on Monday. I put it on mute. Still, I cant see why anyone would actually bother to complain to the BBC. Some people just like moaning it I think.Gungadin 22:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I just tried to copy it for you onto CD using my CD burner, but it didnt work. I thought it was possible to copy film/tv onto CD so they were just playable on PC, but I guess not. I'l do it when I get my new PC if it doesnt come up on UKNOVA before that. Gungadin 23:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Could you send it over MSN? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 13:01, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

No, cos it would need to be copied to my Pc to send it via a file and my DVD burn drive no longer works.Gungadin 22:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, OK, then don't worry, I'll wait until it comes on UK Nova. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:29, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Pictures galore

I have spent my day doing this, thought it might interest you. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 17:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

wow that must have take you ages to take all of those. Willy's final scene!! Poor Willy.Gungadin 22:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Four hours. Arthur's breakdown and Ethel crying over Willy's death made me cry :'( lol. The only other thing that's ever made me cry on EE is Jamie's death (Charlie Jones's acting has nearly drivan me to tears many times!) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Minor cast list

Please don't include Reg Cox in the minor cast list - I think he's notable enough for his own article (just because you've started merging others like Uncle and Sheena, so I thought you might do Reg too!) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, which lists are we going to do? 85-89, 90-94, 95-99, 00-04 and 05-09 or 85-90, 91-95, 96-00, 01-05 and 06-10? I prefer the first one, do you agree? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Dont worry I wasnt going to include Reg. There's some out of universe stuff that can be included in his article anyway, which I intend to add at some point.

I agree, the first way (90-94 etc) is better, as then we wont be merging the decades (not that anyone apart from me would really care about that though).Gungadin 22:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I would! You may have seen this already, but if you haven't: List of minor EastEnders characters 2000-2004. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

And the disambiguation page list of minor EastEnders characters. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

That's great, thanks for doing all that.Gungadin

Further to our conversation on my sandbox talk page

I think some of our definition of "minor" should be dependant on the actor's contract, for example, Natasha Beaumont (SJ Fletcher), Lee Ross (Owen Turner), Amy Noble (Lydia Asler) and Dylan and Tyler Woolf (Tomas Covalenco) were/are all on 3 month contracts, which I think is notable enough of their own article... -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree that most of those should have their own articles, except Lydia, because according to BBC programme cat she was only in 10 episodes total, and her article is short and not likely to be extended either. But i'm not gonna force her onto the list if you'd prefer her to keep her own page, so i'll leave it up to you. Tomas is minor seeing as he's just a baby, but there are ways to beef that article up with criticisms (i.e. the crying) and reviews on the way EE handles illegal immigration etc, so he should keep his own page.

I dont think a 3 month contract makes characters notable necessarily, some perhaps but not all, so I dont think that should be a rule. I think we should just assess each article individually and if a minor character has a long article, or enough scope for improvement, or the possibility to include OOU stuff, then they can just have their own page. I dont plan to be too strict with the lists and we can always vote or discuss things if in doubt. What do you think?Gungadin 00:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, fair enough, but current characters should automatically have their own individual article until they leave, then they can be assessed. The article for 2005-present is gonna be huge! The one I'm least looking forward to is the 90s though! - as walford.net stops at 91, and Walford Web isn't very detailed. The detailed character bios on walford.net stopped at 1988, but at least we have the dates! Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 00:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeh the 90s are gonna take some researching to complete. looking at the past character list I have no idea who half of them are.Gungadin 16:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I think you wrote this...

From Julie Cooper (EastEnders):

"In June 1989 Julie returned to sell the house (number 55 Victoria Road) left to her by her deceased grandmother, Sylvia, who was also "no better than she ought to be", according to Lou Beale."

Didn't Lou die in July 1988? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, was it Marie Davies or Marie Davis? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I got that Lou quote from EE handbook. I havent seen her say it though. She could have said it to the Karims who were living in her house, or Ethel could have mentioned that Lou said it when Julie arrived (which is more likely). I'll add a ref to it.

I think it's meant to be Davies, if I put Davis it's a mistake. Gungadin 22:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Executive Producers

Can you help with this? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 15:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know a great deal about the execs to be honest, but I will do some research and add everything I can find to your sandbox talk page.Gungadin 16:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Cheers. :) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 16:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I swear I leave you a message every day...

...anyway, this conflicts with this edit you made - could you tell me which is the correct info? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 16:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeh I changed it around as Walford web has got it mixed up....again. The actress is Kate Rutter and she played Alison Hastings. An Alison Hastings does exist in reality, but she's a news reader.[4] [5]

*Ta da!*

Today's hard work. There's a new Bobby Beale! It's annoying, as we don't know his name, and I can't access the BBC programme catalogue! Any other ideas on how we can find out the actor's name? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 20:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Good work, it looks really good. I have some random images of minors that might fill up some of those boxes, but I dont know who they are. I will have to get a photobucket account and upload so you can identify them for me.

I didnt realise they'd changed Bobby. I can look at the credits on BBC3 repeat. Would he be listed? or did you already check? Gungadin 21:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I already looked at the credits, he wasn't on there. It was a really good episode tonight. And yes, in an odd way I will look forward to identifying them... in my own geeky way. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, I think the images on that page look really good! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Cool I'll upload them soon.

We've done our character lists much more neatly than some of the other lists ive seen. although some of the images I uploaded for those characters are a bit shit arent they, lol. Oh well...Gungadin 21:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

The only bad ones on there are Anna and Chris Pappas, the latter is one of mine. The image I hate the most is the one on Lucy Beale, she looks like a frog! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

oh, and Joy Lucas doesn't look too hot either! I should be able to upload Douglas Baker and Mary Lavender soon, when the episode is done downloading! It's on 63% - 2:05 hours left! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

lol, yeh she does look like a frog, a hippy frog. Ive met that little girl. Her whole family was often around my friend's house. She has a little sister who is almost identicle to her and another younger one who has a different father and they were all so cute. They all did modeling when I knew them, for catalogues and stuff, even the toddler did it. Joy is a crap image I agree, she looks like the predatorGungadin 22:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

lol, she does! I don't think I've ever met an EastEnders actor... I know AnemoneProjectors has met Leanne Lakey... oh wait a minute, of course I have! I went to school with Edward Savage! (Steven Beale) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, the episode's just finished downloading, so expect to see Douglas and Mary soon! Have you started on the photobucket account yet? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, I'm sure you've seen me compare Libby Fox to Steve Urkel, I don't know why they make her look so bad in EastEnders, she's actually quite fit in real life. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

were you friendly with Edward? I saw fat pat shopping in Watford Harlequin once, and to my astonishment she was actually fairly skinny. This was a few years ago though when she must have been on the Atkins diet :) I dont know what the world is coming to when Fat Pat isnt actually fat.lol

I saw your Steve Urkel comparison before on her talk page, I thought it was very accurate :)

Ive uploaded these random images i found tucked away in a folder on my desktop. God knows who they are. I dont know how to put them in a gallery like yoy did with yours tho, so I'll have to link them separately.

[6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]

Gungadin 00:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

No idea, recognise her though, again, no idea, Chrissie's cellmate, can't remember her name, Dr. Briony Campbell, already has an image, Darren's one time girlfriend, Kylie, Max's mistress, Gemma, this one's needed *yoink*, I think it's Minty's ex, Emma, no idea, again, no idea. Sorry for not being able to offer much insight - the Gemma one's useful though! They're all women, lol, coincidence? -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 01:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

And to answer your question, I never spoke to Ed, I was in the year below and slightly in awe to be honest! Do you have any dates for the images? That would probably help. Also, are the episodes you have dated? If so, if you have: the Carol/Alan wedding episode/s (1996), 22/9/97, 23/9/97, 25/9/97 11/11/05, 29/11/05, 1/12/05, 26/12/05, 27/12/05, 5/1/06, 5/2/06, 9/2/06, 10/2/06, 21/2/06, 28/4/06, 8/6/06, 9/6/06, 16/6/06, 10/7/06, 11/7/06, 7/8/06, 8/8/06, 10/8/06, 11/8/06, 18/8/06, 21/8/06, 22/8/06, 24/8/06, 25/8/06, 5/10/06, 26/3/07, 27/3/07, 2/4/07, 5/4/07 or 6/4/07 - let me know, and I'll tell you which image/what information we need from that episode! -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 01:43, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

lol, yes just a coincidence that they are all women, I dread to think what you might be insinuating :O As it happens I have another folder of male randoms for you to identify.

I dont keep the episodes after i've watched them, they take up too much room. Sometimes I just take the captures on the off chance they ight be needed, then bung them in a folder and forget about them.Gungadin 13:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23]

Gungadin 13:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

18's Steve Clarke, 22's Al... don't know the rest... I think the smarmy one's Rhys and the vicar is Rev. Adam Cherry, wo I don't think we have listed anywhere - he appeared on 18/9/00, played by Michael Fenton Stevens. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 14:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh right, so we dont need any then? do you think I should just delete them or are they likely to be added ever?Gungadin 15:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

We need Steve, Al and the vicar, but that's it I think... -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 15:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok well I'll hang on to them anyway. I might ad them to the list at some stage.Gungadin 15:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

PC Paula Campbell

Do you know whether Mia Soteriou appeared in 2004 as well as 2003, as her IMDb says she appeared in three episodes in 2003, but I have a feeling she also returned for the trial in 2004... -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I have no idea who she is. Was she involved in Mo Slater's trial? If you know the date of the trial maybe it will be on walford.net in the episode descriptions Gungadin 23:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't... I posted a topic about it at Walford Web. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

The 'who's who' section on Walford web says she was in it in 2004, i know they arent exactly reliable though. It's annoying that the BBC catalogue isnt working anymore, that was really useful Gungadin 23:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

It was - it goes off and on though, doesn't it? Because it's a beta thingy. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

yeh I remember it was off for a long time last year, which annoyed me. Gungadin 23:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Minor character lists

Is 85-89 complete yet? If not, it very nearly is... 90-94 isn't anywhere near ready. 95-99 isn't created yet. 00-04 is partially done. 05-present is finished. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

85-89 still has quite a way to go. looking at the past character list there's still many that i could add to it. Shall I put the spin off characters on the lists? Gungadin 23:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Errm... I don't know - concentrate on the minor lists first, then we can do a spin-off list I guess, for Civvy Street, Perfectly Frank (are there any other spin-offs apart from Ricky and Bianca, Pat and Mo, etc?) The rest of 85-89 is gonna be hard, as walford.net doesn't provide much information past 86... -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok cool, i just was looking through the ee cat to see if I should merge any and noticed Harry Beale etc and didnt know what to do. I think a separate list for those sounds like a good idea. I'm okay with many of the 80s characters, although i'm unsure whether to class some as minor or not. It's the 90s that will take some researching. Trawling through walford.net can be such a chore, which is why the bbc cat is so good. You can find out the episodes they appeared in and then look it up.Gungadin 23:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

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