User talk:Barneca

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User:Barneca/inoutmsg

Oldwindybear

I would say wait for the WP:RFCU. I think they are the same but no doubt CU will say otherwise as they have been clever. GDonato (talk) 16:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I do have other evidence I will present even if the RFCU comes back inconclusive, but will wait on that until I see what happens at RFCU. --barneca (talk) 16:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the headsup

I have replied. My patience with all this is wearing thin.--Jonashart 17:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

You aren't the only one. if you think I like this, you're mistaken. --barneca (talk) 17:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

re my page

while I understand your sentiment, you must understand that I was only giving a brief observation of two of the users in question. Despite my recent dispute with them, I am still a member of the community, and it is a community discussion. New England ^{(C) (H)} 18:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I know, I didn't mean your evidence was not valid, I meant that because of yesterday, you giving the evidence is going to tarnish people's perceptions. Not completely fair, but that's how i think it is. --barneca (talk) 18:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Offline

I'm sorry to jump offline at an inopportune time, but juggling work and WP isn't working. One eye on WP talk pages, one on excel, and I still have an actual job. I've given everyone a chunk of data at User talk:Barneca/Draft SSP report, I will try to get back on in 2.5 hours. I can't do this tonight, it's my anniversary, but will check in for a little while before going home. --barneca (talk) 18:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The Oldwindybear thing

For what it's worth, I really appreciate the way you've handled this. Your repeated apologies, your acknowledgement that it looks a bit like "Big Brother" etc. etc. is excellent. I know it's tough, and I think you've done well. For the record, I hope the Check User reveals nothing to worry about, as I have had only positive interaction with all concerned, but I still think that you have been very sensetive in this. By the way - Happy Aniversary! Best. Pedro |  Chat  19:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

For what it is worth, I agree totally with Pedro |  Chat  -- I don't think you enjoy this, you have certainly made clear how distasteful you find it. Please, do not feel that you have offended me - you have been extraordinarily sensitive and decent. (I won't lie and say I am not hurt by being accused, but I understand you have a role to play, and you are doing so with dignity) Take care, and when the check-user clears me, I humbly ask you to look at his interests, and mine, and evaluate the total contributions, and I honestly believe you will see I had nothing to do with sock puppets. Take care! PS Happy Anniversary also!old windy bear 20:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Pedro, that means quite a lot coming from a friend of Oldwindybear. And thank you, Oldwindybear, for remaining so civil thru all this. Signing off, need to go pretend WP doesn't exist for a while. --barneca (talk) 21:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

All's well that ends well...or something.--Jonashart 12:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Or something. As I've said in a few places, I did not think you were a sockpuppet, and regret that my clumsy way of bringing this up dragged you into it. --barneca (talk) 13:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. Not to worry...no blood, no foul. Thanks for working to clear it all up.--Jonashart 14:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

never seen a vandal fix spelling before..

I aim to please. And baffle.--211.74.211.4 17:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

So, the highlight of my week on Wikipedia is a conversation with an unrepentant vandal. --barneca (talk) 23:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I prefer to think of myself as a new media performance artist. And yes, I am the artist formerly known as 211.74.211.4. I love dynamic IPs.--59.121.193.19 03:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

You realize, of course, that other people have to follow you around, and clean up after your "performance"? With little hope of changing your mind, I'll still ask you to reconsider. The contrib list for your previous IP showed a combination of vandalism and constructive edits, and on roughly the same subjects so I assume it was always you. It seems like most of your legit contributions stayed; all the vandalism is gone. Isn't it slightly more satisfying doing something that will last? Please? --barneca (talk) 12:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Ridiculousness on that ski area page

To be safe, you might want to revert your last reversion, I, personally think it's vandalism reversion, but some might consider it a content dispute. It would be crazy for you to get caught up in a 3RR accusation yourself. I think it's vandalistic enough that I can safely revert after the IP is blocked for 3RR so you don't have to, without being accussed of edit warring myself; that would be my third revert. --barneca (talk) 15:23, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the heads-up. I have already notified the Admid for intervention about the situation. It's funny, I just stumbled across the artical while on vandle control and get caught in a edit dispute :-). ShoesssS ^Talk 15:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

That's how I got invovled too. No worries, I think any rational admin at WP:AN3 would view your edits as vandalism removal, it a white area with a teeny tiny bit of grey. --barneca (talk) 15:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Big Mountain Ski Resort

That kind of nonsensical material should be removed on sight. No worries. Cheers, Peacent

WP:ANI#Sockpuppets of Oldwindybear

User:Barneca, an ANI thread has been opened regarding sockpuppets of Oldwindybear.Proabivouac 08:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Barneca, you did good work on that. I appreciate you spotting and reporting the accounts, and taking the time to work through all the diffs. Tom Harrison ^Talk 13:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Tom. I appreciate that. --barneca (talk) 13:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank You

I guess I can now come out of hiding (I promise I'm about to leave for Maine though). I just checked the whole situation, and I am thoroughly pleased at the result. I also noticed that Proabivouac received two barnstars for his actions, and I decided that you deserve one (if not several) as well.

Thus, I, New England, on this the twenty-fifth day of July, in the Year of the Lord 2007, present to you the Defender of the Wiki Barnstar, for your efforts in ending the fraudulent and abusive sockpuppetry of Old Windy Bear.

		The Mighty Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For your efforts in ending the fraudulent and abusive sockpuppetry of Old Windy Bear New England (C) (H) 15:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Enjoy it, I'm out of here for a while. New England ^{(C) (H)} 15:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, NE, very much. Enjoy your vacation. --barneca (talk) 16:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

One more won't hurt.

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Well, you won't be getting any from OWB, so here is a barnstar from me. For the incredibly detailed work in exposing the OWB/SS sockpuppetry. Thank you! Flyguy649 talk contribs 15:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Flyguy, for the barnstar and for your kind words at User talk:Proabivouac/Oldwindybear&Stillstudying. --barneca (talk) 16:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Barneca. As I just mentioned on Proabiovouac's talk page, I was extremely impressed with the thoroughness of the evidence you and he compiled regarding this case. If every suspected-sockpuppet report was one-tenth that diligent, the job of sorting them out would be easy! I'm not happy to see Oldwindybear leave, as he was a reasonably productive contributor, but I think the evidence was overwhelming and it was pretty clear that he did not have the community's trust to continue with the admin bit. In the long run, I think that's the best thing for Wikipedia, because even with Stillstudying "gone", past performance is a strong predictor of future performance. Anyhow, I just wanted to thank you again for the extensive time and effort you put into researching this sensitive issue, as well as the tact with which you handled it. We need more admins with those sorts of qualities; if that's something that interests you down the line, let me know. MastCell ^Talk 17:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks MastCell, for that vote of confidence, and for your previous kind words when I was feeling a little out on a limb. I've occasionally toyed with the idea of pursuing that in the future; right now there are several areas I just don't feel knowledgeable enough about, but I'll think about it in the coming months. If I do decide it's something that interests me, I'll probably open an Editor Review beforehand, and will certainly let you know. --barneca (talk) 18:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I just had a chance to read the report after I saw the link to it on WP:AN/I, and I'm impressed by the work you all did in putting it together. As a new user I'm a little surprised (maybe even scared) that one person could use so many accounts for such a long time and get away with it. Hopefully this won't happen again. Pats Sox Princess 17:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Pats Sox Princess, I appreciate it. I was a little surprised it lasted that long too. No need to be overly worried, however. This was a pretty isolated case, and will hopefully lead to a little more vigilance. Actually, I'm sure it will happen again, but the beauty of a wiki is that everything is revertable, so it's hard to do lasting, long term damage. --barneca (talk) 17:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Nferbert

my username if nferbert and i was not spamming on the boston page. i am providing TRANSPORTATION information in the TRANSPORTATION section. why is that a problem for you? _{(unsigned comment added at 16:04, July 26, 2007 by Nferbert)}

With all due respect, you were indeed spamming, based on any reasonable definition of the word. If the use of the word "spamming" itself offends you, then I apologize; feel free to substitute "inappropriate advertising" in any previous messages I've sent you. But providing 1-3 paragraphs about one particular company, including the toll free number used to make reservations, in three separate articles, qualifies as inappropriate advertising.

Wikipedia has some pretty ironclad policies on adding advertising to articles. There is more information available on this at WP:ADVERT and WP:COI. --barneca (talk) 16:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Getting into the Award thing...

For keeping the Integrity of Wikipedia intact by working to report puppeteering by OldwindyBear, you get the "Upholder of Wiki Award". Thanks for Your Efforts Pats Sox Princess 18:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --barneca (talk) 18:46, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar of good humour

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		Your comment on Wikipedia talk:Requests for Adminship brought a smile to my face, and, being the only person on Wikipedia to have done that today, you deserve this barnstar. ;-) Lradrama 16:12, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Jesus, I'm just racking these puppies up. :) Thank you Lradrama. I was typing as fast as I could, as I was positive someone was going to say it before me, and I kept getting e/c'd. Glad i could make you smile. --barneca (talk) 16:21, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

The real tragedy is that I'm feeling frisky for some reason today, and now have another joke I want to add to that page, but have bumped up against the 1JR (one joke rule).--barneca (talk) 16:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I mucked the wording all up. But nobody seems to have noticed... --barneca (talk) 16:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

re:Close at WP:AN/I

Meh, it's alright, my real reward is being a rouge admin non-admin. — Moe ε 17:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Something i can aspire to. --barneca (talk) 17:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I like your style

Edits like this almost make me think humanity isn't doomed after all. Good work. Raymond Arritt 03:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Why thank you, Raymond. I like my style too, but I'm biased.

I took a look at your user page, and you strike me as someone who doesn't put a lot of stock in the idea of jinxing, so allow me to congratulate you a tad early on your soon-to-be-successful RfA. --barneca (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Boston accent

Thanks. I thought it might go well with Loodog's "Bostonians" after I saw him remove it, but didn't notice it was already mentioned elsewhere. Thanks again. Aepoutre 15:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure thing. I probably need to learn to be bolder; I just hate the idea of using "undo" on a non-vandal, hence the very long edit summary. Probably see you around that page; seems we both have it watchlisted. --barneca (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

We sure do. I love Boston, haha. Bold is good; I don't tend to take umbrage at any edits, but I've seen that some pretty nasty little "wars" occur on Wikipedia, too. Aepoutre 16:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually not trying to do that

I'm actually trying to set up a template page for my userboxes but I notice that when I put the link to the userbox on the mainspace of listing of userboxes there's a dead link. Unless you can think of a better way to do it. But to be perfectly honest all the userboxes on that main listing page are not necessarily template pages, so what am I doing wrong and help me fix the problem. Thanks. þ 03:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

- I actually see what you think I'm doing. No, I'm not trying to create separate userpages. If you look at other userboxes they seem to be created from user pages. I'm not a technical wizard; so I don't understand why they're not being called out (shrugs). þ 03:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

- I see what I'm doing wrong; I thought that those userpages were for the userbox; but I see that those are userboxes that are redirected from userpages. I guess I just have to redirect those to template pages. þ 03:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

- I put in redirects I don't know if that's alright. Tell me if it is. þ 06:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

- Nevermind, I finally understood what you wanted me to do. þ 06:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

replied on your talk page. --barneca (talk) 12:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

- Oh, your most welcome! þ 21:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

- I did a minor revision of the userbox. I think it's funnier.

Fast Times

F...F...F...Three weeks we've been talking about the Platt Amendment. What are you people...ON DOPE!!!

þ 22:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

E-mail

I've replied to your e-mail, and I expect you to keep its content to yourself. Happy editing! --Boricuaeddie 15:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)