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Instamatic Karma Deletion

You put in for a deletion, I could understand it might be a premature listing however there is a website for the book so it should stay.

No problem! I just always had a thing about placing articles in Wikipedia that have not happened yet :-). Shoessss | Chat 02:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Lkane.jpg

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI 05:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sixstring1965File:Applecorps.jpg^{The Beatles Wikiproject}

Instamatic Karma

A tag has been placed on Instamatic Karma, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the article and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. WebHamster 23:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uncivil

I have two choices. I can either report your feeble attempts at uncivility, or I can simply remove the offending comments from the Lennon Discussion. I'll do you the eminent kindness of the latter, since you are probably just tired, and hadn't had your morning tea. :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 19:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh... I can see what I'm up against already. Just stay away from subjects that you may know little or nothing about (Lennon) and I will do the same.

Sixstring1965File:Applecorps.jpg^{The Beatles Wikiproject}:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I am going to do you a huge favor and let you back off that statement, sport. Unless you hold a Masters Degree in History with a Thesis of the Beatles, your claim of knowing more than your fellow man is laughable, and it will almost certainly get you into trouble. If you doubt the veracity of any of my edits, go to an editor and ask them about it. Go to the BLP admin noticeboard and ask them who's right. Until you work up the nerve to do that, maybe you should put the AGF cap back on and be more polite. I am not known for suffering fools gladly, and you are quickly moving yourself into that category. Please, prove me that you aren't like that. Make the effort. Learn, please. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 03:02, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arcayne, How can I take you seriously. Take a look at the spelling. Believe it or not, a professional editor checks all of my edits where I might be in doubt. I do not run to admin to get people in trouble, I usually take the hit myself by do-gooder individuals like yourself. I'm not looking for awards, just correct history is good enough for me. I don't take threats well either.Sixstring1965

Sixstring1965File:Applecorps.jpg^{The Beatles Wikiproject}

Thank you for making the effort and providing at least one citation for the statements in the article (May Pang's website). This is what we need, not some, trust us we're experts bs. That just screams WP:OWN. And while I do make typos, all my edits are spot-on. And my advice about the admins wasn't to get anyone in trouble; it was to provide you with some much-needed guidance in why I was being as pointed in my edits. The only trouble I referred to was the OWN thing, which would get you blocked (its a rather big bozo no-no). - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 04:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. The white flag has been drawn. I do have to say, the citation needed next to "remains friends with McCartney" should be removed due to the fact that there is a citation right next to "invited to Linda's memorial" line. Peace.Sixstring1965

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to May Pang, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. –Animum 22:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I know what I did and it was constuctive. Please leave it alone.Sixstring1965

Sixstring1965File:Applecorps.jpg^{The Beatles Wikiproject}

I'm sorry for using the standardized templates, but next time, please only use templates such as {{cite}} and {{cite book}} inside the <ref></ref> tags. Regards. –Animum 22:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Erm, I know what 3RR is. I know what basically any policy you can name means. Please don't ask me to adhere to rules which I already adhere to. –Animum 22:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then why not follow the one that says not to edit-war? You are currently at your revert limit for the day, and yet you tried to make Animun feel like they would be the one reported for correcting the article (putting themselves at 3 reverts). You are currently at your limit for 3RR today. The next time you revert will be a violation of 3RR and you can be blocked for it. I would adivse you to work through your difficulties with edits you disagree with on the Discussion page, or pursue WP:DR. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 01:44, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Wars

Was there a problem? Everything is as it should be. 02:16, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Sixstring1965File:Applecorps.jpg^{The Beatles Wikiproject}:

re John Lennon

You have been temporarily blocked from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for repeated abuse of editing privileges. Please stop. You're welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.

Do not revert. Do discuss. The May Pang/John Lennon discussion is thataway in just under a quarter of an hour. LessHeard vanU 14:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

citation tags

No, I don't think every single thing needs citation, but instead of just removing the tag you ought to ask the person who put the tag on why it was added. And/or post a question on Talk. My point is that if you provide a requested citation, then of course remove the tag. But don't just remove a tag without explanation or question - you removed the tag with a blank edit summary and no note on Talk. I didn't track to see if you said anything anywhere else, but I shouldn't have to. Someone had a reason for the tag - find out what it is and argue your case. Or at the very least say why you're removing it when you do so. Tvoz |talk 05:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to bother with it. Arcayne put the citation tag in, let him look for the info to put in. He'd rather have that horrible bed-in picture there as well. His rationale was "He's not just a Beatle" or whatever he said, but he was still a Beatle during the bed-in. I'm just about done with this whole thing. Sixstring1965 05:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great attitude. I took 3 minutes, found a reasonable citation, and added it. (Ever think that maybe he was looking for the "1st #1 record" to be referenced? But you didn't try to find out.) Just wondering: are you really here to improve Beatles articles or are you here to win a pissing contest? Tvoz |talk 05:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of dropping in cite tags, why can't he just find the citation? I could sit here and drop tags in all night long. I'm not going to get into it with anybody. I'll do my additions and whatever happens then so be it. I get most of my information from people who worked for Lennon, I know what I put in is reliable. Sixstring1965 05:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Terrific - but you miss the point. It's not a question of truth, it's a question of verifiability. That's the way it is on Wikipedia - read WP:V, one of the basics. So yeah, sometimes I look for the citations myself and add them when I see they're needed, but sometimes I get annoyed at having to do other people's work and I just put in tags. But I don't remove tags that other people put in without explanation or question - that's what you did, and I pointed out. As for the veracity of your material - I'm not questioning it. I am saying, though, that you have to back it up with reliably-sourced third-party citations. And it's a lot more collegial if you pitch in and find citations when you add material, rather than leaving it for someone else to do, even though you "know" the information is correct. I'd rather spend my time improving the writing around here - which it often sorely needs - than doing the grunt work of finding cites, but it takes both. So the Fame cite literally took me 3 minutes to find and add - and if you had done that instead of removing the tag, we both could have spent less time on this. C'est la vie. Cheers Tvoz |talk 06:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image Licensing

Please take a great deal more care with how you license your images. The instance where you changed the image licensing was a bit uncool, but could be written off to not being familiar with image licensing. Licensing an image to bypass copyright is considerably more serious, and you can get into trouble for that. I've reverted the image back to the bearded, free image, so as to preserve the primary image for the article. Maybe you can ask the folk where you have been getting your info if they have an image that they took themselves that they would be willing to allow to be creative commons licensed. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 23:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Listen troll, That image is a creative commons image. LEAVE IT ALONE Sixstring1965 01:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sixstring, I hope you don't let the image thing get you discouraged. I saw from your account log that you're a fairly new user, and we need people with a passion for their subject. That said, sometimes things don't translate well when we're "talking" on the discussion pages, and I've seen tempers flair-up many times through misunderstandings. One of the important principles here to help deal with such a wide variety of different users from all over the world is assume good faith. I urge you to re-word (refactor) the above comment to Arcayne. I don't know if he also regularly edits Beatles' articles, but if he does, that would go a long way to facilitate working together. (Usually if you change a comment just put a <s> before the text and a </s> after the text to be "struck" out -see the Wiki markup section when you edit). Thanks, R. Baley 05:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia

Since no has done this yet. . .here's some info that someone posted to my talk page (when I first got here) that I found pretty helpful:

Five pillars of Wikipedia
simplified ruleset.
How to title new articles check out the naming conventions, *Help on formatting the pages visit the manual of style.
Wikipedia:Help
FAQ
Village Pump (for Wikipedia related questions) *Reference Desk (for general questions).
Tutorial and Policy Library.
Community Portal.

If you have any questions about anything, let me know, I'll do what I can. R. Baley 05:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your time. I understand completely and will try my best to do my best for Wikipedia and the commmunity. Sixstring1965 14:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that my edits, which seem to directly oppose yours can be frustrating to you, Six. Please understand that while some editors would flay you alive and send you weeping inconsolably into a corner through severely witty comments, I think its more helpful to keep trying to point out that my edits aren't meant to spite you directly or at all.

I want the articles to be the best they can be. In the biography of a living person (actually, any biography) requires a higher level of citation than say, a movie article or an album review. The reason for this is that biographies tend to affect the lives of living people, and theur reputations and fortunes can be ruined by information entered into Wikipedia. The reason that WP insists on more citation for BLPs and biographies is that if the person (or their estate) wants to sue for incorrect information appearingin Wikipedia, the higher-ups want to be able to say, 'hey, we didn't say that; the comment was cited from what some other person said,' and then be able to show that citation.

It isn't a matter of me trying to dick you out of the article. I think that everything you are adding is indeed accurate. However, you need to specifically cite where the statements you add come from, so that no one can say you made it up, and that Wikipedia condoned it. My edits - while the seem like a pain in the ass - are there to protect both you and Wikipedia. I hope you can understand that, and we can move forward to improve the article. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 If you have any questions about anything, let me know, I'll do what I can.  [[User:R. Baley|R. Baley]] 05:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 Thank you for your time.  I understand completely and will try my best to do my best for Wikipedia and the commmunity. [[User:Sixstring1965|Sixstring1965]] 14:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
+:I understand that my edits, which seem to directly oppose yours can be frustrating to you, Six. Please understand that while some editors would flay you alive and send you weeping inconsolably into a corner through severely witty comments, I think its more helpful to keep trying to point out that my edits aren't meant to spite you directly or at all.
+:I want the articles to be the best they can be. In the [[WP:BLP|biography of a living person]] (actually, ''any'' biography) requires a higher level of citation than say, a movie article or an album review. The reason for this is that biographies tend to affect the lives of living people, and theur reputations and fortunes can be ruined by information entered into Wikipedia. The reason that WP insists on more citation for BLPs and biographies is that if the person (or their estate) wants to sue for incorrect information appearingin Wikipedia, the higher-ups want to be able to say, 'hey, ''we'' didn't say that; the comment was cited from what ''some other person'' said,' and then be able to show that citation.
+:It isn't a matter of me trying to dick you out of the article. I think that everything you are adding is indeed accurate. However, you need to specifically cite where the statements you add come from, so that no one can say you made it up, and that Wikipedia condoned it. My edits - while the seem like a pain in the ass  - are there to ''protect'' both you and Wikipedia. I hope you can understand that, and we can move forward to improve the article. - [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 18:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)