Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Altrincham

Altrincham

I'm self-nominating this article for featured article because it conforms with WP:UKCITIES and I think it is a well developed article with plenty of references and meets the criteria of FAC. Any constructive criticism is welcome, thanks. Nev1 12:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Some more copyediting needed. For example:
  • "There are a total of 5 Grade II Listed Churches in Altrincham" - spell out 5, "a total of" is redundant
  • "lower than the 21.3% all of Trafford" - missing an "in"
  • "including the 18th century Dunham Massey Hall" - hyphen needed
  • "All of these churches have been Listed Buildings since 1985" - redundant "of"
  • "There is currently one synagogue" - "currently" is redundant
  • Some incorrect dash usage. Epbr123 13:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

•  Done --Malleus Fatuorum 15:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• • Some more:
    • "Since 1290 Altrincham was a Free Borough, a self governing township"
    • "a population of around 67,000" - "around" isn't needed, it's indicated by the 0s
    • "Running through Broadheath in Altrincham is a Roman road that links the Roman fortress of Chester (Deva) and the fort of York (Eboracum)" - comma needed either after Broadheath or Altrincham
    • "and is one of only six Grade I Listed Buildings in Trafford" - is the "only" needed?
    • The economy section needs info other than stats, such as on local industries. Epbr123 15:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

•  Done Although I hope to find more on local industry in the present. Nev1 16:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment There are a few examples of several reference superscripts running one after the other (eg the demography stats). If you run them all together, separated by <br />•, it looks a whole lot neater without losing any information. I'd do it myself, but I'm tight for time. Mr Stephen 16:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure? Doesn't that start a new line, which would lead to a lot of white space? Nev1 16:50, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I've obviously not made it clear - sorry. See Intelligent design for an example of it in use. In markup it's

<ref name=stats>{{cite web ...}}<br />•{{cite web ...}}</ref>

and then <ref name=stats/> as required. Mr Stephen 17:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

 Done I get the idea now, thanks. Nev1 18:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• Support - passes FAC criteria in my opinion. All requirements here have been filled out. I've used this page as a template for other projects before, and as for the comprehensiveness... — Rudget _speak.work 21:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

• Support - I like the article very much but maybe it is just me but it looks weird having a picture of the market next to the Sport section. _└^and-rew_┘^┌_talk^┐ 21:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose A few issues with the Sport section, which tends towards recentism. In addition to the two wins of what is now the Conference, which in the present day would earn Football League status, the football club is primarily noted for FA Cup "giant-killings" in the 1970s and 80s, beating several Football League teams and achieving draws against top division teams Everton and Spurs. The town's two previous ice hockey teams (Trafford Metros and Altrincham Aces) are not mentioned, nor is the Devonshire Road rink which for a number of years was the feature of Altrincham best known by those from other places in the region. Oldelpaso (talk) 22:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey no one's perfect, I don't follow football or ice hockey. If you've got material to add, with sources, go right ahead, you certainly seem to know your stuff. Is the old ice rink notable though? I agree it was well known in Altrincham, but it has been superceded. Nev1 (talk) 00:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• You need to use modern-speak for the main units: see [Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_%28dates_and_numbers%29#Which_system_to_use]]. Tony (talk) 05:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
• I have to oppose, since, like similar articles with ?similar authors, the prose needs careful copy-editing throughout. Do I need to provide examples, or are you willing to engage others from related articles in the field to sift through it? Tony (talk) 05:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)