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*'''Delete''' Resurrected by anon article, originally redirected to [[Religious_denominations_in_Poland]] contains statements which not only are clearly POVs but border with the vandalism. The issue of Polish Anti-Semitism has been addressed in a number of recently discussed and revised articles such as [[History of the Jews in Poland]], [[Anti-Semitism]], [[History_of_Poland_%281939-1945%29]], [[History_of_Poland_%281945-1989%29]], [[Kielce Pogrom]], [[Massacre in Jedwabne]]. --[[User:Ttyre|Ttyre]] 00:18, 11 July 2005 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' Resurrected by anon article, originally redirected to [[Religious_denominations_in_Poland]] contains statements which not only are clearly POVs but border with the vandalism. The issue of Polish Anti-Semitism has been addressed in a number of recently discussed and revised articles such as [[History of the Jews in Poland]], [[Anti-Semitism]], [[History_of_Poland_%281939-1945%29]], [[History_of_Poland_%281945-1989%29]], [[Kielce Pogrom]], [[Massacre in Jedwabne]]. --[[User:Ttyre|Ttyre]] 00:18, 11 July 2005 (UTC) |
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:The vandalism is committed by User:Witkacy [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Semitism_in_Poland&diff=18564541&oldid=18564505] who also keeps adding the sentence "Poles generally being known for being one of the most Anti-Semitic peoples in the world".{{User:83.109.157.141}} |
:The vandalism is committed by User:Witkacy [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Semitism_in_Poland&diff=18564541&oldid=18564505] who also keeps adding the sentence "Poles generally being known for being one of the most Anti-Semitic peoples in the world".{{User:83.109.157.141}} |
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*'''Delete''' and [[User:Witkacy|Witkacy]] should be send to the back of the room. [[User:Aaron Brenneman|Aaron Brenneman]] 01:17, 11 July 2005 (UTC) |
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:The article's special nature, deals with an atypical problem. Jews were afforded comforts by the rulers of Poland, but most of the Christian citizens did not enjoy this relationship between them. When Jews were going around the world to proclaim their own pain in reference to the Holocaust, Poles felt left out and anti-Semitism rose by clear margins. Whilst Christian Poles were treated somewhat different from the Jews by the Nazis, the rest of the world did not know the background to German-Polish violence. I have a feeling that the naysayers of this vote are tied to the page here: [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-Polonism]] Is it true, that none of you care about the Poles but are frothing at the mouth to feel pity for the Jews? There is much ignorance of Central and Eastern European social history, in Western eyes. [[User:TheUnforgiven|TheUnforgiven]] 00:29, 11 July 2005 (UTC) |
:The article's special nature, deals with an atypical problem. Jews were afforded comforts by the rulers of Poland, but most of the Christian citizens did not enjoy this relationship between them. When Jews were going around the world to proclaim their own pain in reference to the Holocaust, Poles felt left out and anti-Semitism rose by clear margins. Whilst Christian Poles were treated somewhat different from the Jews by the Nazis, the rest of the world did not know the background to German-Polish violence. I have a feeling that the naysayers of this vote are tied to the page here: [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-Polonism]] Is it true, that none of you care about the Poles but are frothing at the mouth to feel pity for the Jews? There is much ignorance of Central and Eastern European social history, in Western eyes. [[User:TheUnforgiven|TheUnforgiven]] 00:29, 11 July 2005 (UTC) |
Revision as of 01:17, 11 July 2005
A look at the history of this page shows strong feelings on either side. There has been considerable effort made to speedy this page, even though it is not really a candidate, and it has been redirected twice to articles which really don't speak to this issue. It seems VfD is rightfully the place for a decision to be made on the fate of this article. Denni☯ 22:46, 2005 July 10 (UTC)
- Keep There are already a slew of Jewish-related articles on Wikipedia, so why is this one any different from the rest which are not on VFD? TheUnforgiven 22:53, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. This definately needs to be kept. I might add to this one, now that you mention it. -mysekurity 22:56, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, although it is ogin to have eternal NPOV problems and vandalism. I'll add it to my watchlist. -Splash 23:02, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- It seems to me that the scope of this article is already covered at History of the Jews in Poland. I suggest to merge and redirect there. JeremyA 23:09, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect (as above) or blank and rewrite from the scratches, if there is a need to have a set of separate articles on anti-Semitism in every corner of the world. Preferably from a NPOV by someone not as biased and emotional as the present authors of that thingie. Poles generally being known for being one of the most Anti-Semitic peoples in the world - what rubbish is that? Halibutt 23:10, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to History of the Jews in Poland. Current article is POV. Pburka 23:13, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to Anti-semitism. We don't need a whole swarm of articles of the sort Antisemitism in (choose any country/city), though surely anti-semitism does exist in just about all countries and cities, to a greater or lesser extent. Balcer 23:17, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I think that the topic is an interesting one, and considering the fact that before WWII one sixth of all Jews in the world were Polish, I'd say this deserves its own page. That said, the "article" as it now stands is woefully low on information and seems to be more a thought that hits someone one day than an academic encyclopedia article. Nevertheless I'm strongly in favor of keeping the page so that six months hence there will be a fine article on the subject here. - mnuez
- Keep per Splash, please discount my vote if Splash's vote changes from keep -Harmil 23:59, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Space Cadet 00:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete jamesgibbon 00:08, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Resurrected by anon article, originally redirected to Religious_denominations_in_Poland contains statements which not only are clearly POVs but border with the vandalism. The issue of Polish Anti-Semitism has been addressed in a number of recently discussed and revised articles such as History of the Jews in Poland, Anti-Semitism, History_of_Poland_(1939-1945), History_of_Poland_(1945-1989), Kielce Pogrom, Massacre in Jedwabne. --Ttyre 00:18, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
- The vandalism is committed by User:Witkacy [1] who also keeps adding the sentence "Poles generally being known for being one of the most Anti-Semitic peoples in the world".User:83.109.157.141
- Delete and Witkacy should be send to the back of the room. Aaron Brenneman 01:17, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Discussion
- The article's special nature, deals with an atypical problem. Jews were afforded comforts by the rulers of Poland, but most of the Christian citizens did not enjoy this relationship between them. When Jews were going around the world to proclaim their own pain in reference to the Holocaust, Poles felt left out and anti-Semitism rose by clear margins. Whilst Christian Poles were treated somewhat different from the Jews by the Nazis, the rest of the world did not know the background to German-Polish violence. I have a feeling that the naysayers of this vote are tied to the page here: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-Polonism Is it true, that none of you care about the Poles but are frothing at the mouth to feel pity for the Jews? There is much ignorance of Central and Eastern European social history, in Western eyes. TheUnforgiven 00:29, 11 July 2005 (UTC)