Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Uga Man/presidential campaign, 2008

User:Uga Man/presidential campaign, 2008

This is not an appropriate use of user space. It is nothing but a blog, basically. It's being spammed inappropriately through the user's signature. Wikipedia is not a place for a person to hold their political campaigns and recruit supporters or vice-presidents. Metros (talk) 04:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Since I tagged this for deletion, the user has gone and placed all the content of this subpage and put it to his user page. If this subpage is deleted, this should be reverted as forking deleted material. Metros (talk) 04:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

• Strong keep, No reason to delete this userpage since it isn't causing any problems. I think the user Metros is having a bad day.--Uga Man (talk) UGA MAN FOR PRESIDENT 2008 04:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - Per WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not an experiment in democracy and does not affiliate any other political system. – NHJG 04:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Its not serious its just fun. I'm not advertising anything and I really don't expect anybody to vote for me. I am using it as my wikipedia identity and its purpose is to promote wikicohesion (WikiLove). I know Jimbo has promoted WikiLove and I thought he'd play along and say he was my "running mate". I am sorry.--Uga Man (talk) UGA MAN FOR PRESIDENT 2008 04:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete; I don't see how this could be cohesive. I see potential potential for the opposite however, with several politically charged points. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 05:07, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

How so?--Uga Man (talk) UGA MAN FOR PRESIDENT 2008 05:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. It's part of the Wikipedia Department of Fun. It's just fun and games that aren't meant to be taken serious. Killing fun is the same as killing creativity. And 'spam'? He isn't really running for president. Go to vote! You'll see. No where on the ballot does it say "Uga Man." Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 06:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment. Write-in candidate. Besides that, that's not the point that the nominator (or myself) made. We're not taking it seriously... -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Then why delete it?--Uga Man (talk) UGA MAN FOR PRESIDENT 2008 06:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
      • I don't understand the comment (if you want me to believe that you want to delete the page). Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 06:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
        • It violates WP:NOT. This isn't a social networking site. And again, there are various potentially divisive statements on the department of education, recreational drugs, etc. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
          • Am I blind? I don't see the statements. Please point them out to me.Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 06:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
            • Clearly he's removed them, which is a start. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 07:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - I don't see why it's a problem if someone uses his userspace for humor. Enigma ^msg! 07:07, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - I was not asked to vote here or WP:CANVASSed. I found this on my own, and I find it ridiculous that people are voting to delete it. Enigma ^msg! 18:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. Harmless humor. henrik•talk 08:03, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep This isn't an article and serves to state a user's ambitions, even if they are tongue-in-cheek. That said, he didn't perform well in the debates....But what are you going to do about it? It's a two-party system; you have to vote for one of [them]...Well, I believe I'll vote for a third-party candidate...Go ahead, throw your vote away! It's a user page for crying out loud and it isn't harming or disrupting anything. — BQZip01 — ^talk 09:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Harmless. - Milk's Favorite Cookie 17:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - I've said this countless times before, there's nothing wrong with harmless fun.   jj137 (talk) 18:10, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep as completely harmless, there are much more urgent issues we should be discussing than this one. Happy editing, SqueakBox 18:10, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - Not a social networking site, not collaborative, not helpful. Humor is all well and good, but only the general, universally-appealing kind, the kind that can go in Wikipedia: namespace. This page is more like a page of a personal website. It's not even funny... but even if it were, it would still just be a bit of personal creativity. Myspace stuff. Doesn't belong here. Yes there are other more important things to attend to, but that's neither here nor there. If we're having a delete discussion already, you might as well vote on the side of policy, if you're going to vote at all. The time is spent either way. Its level of importance in the grand scheme of things is irrelevant. Equazcion •✗/C • 18:14, 2 Mar 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Both Uga Man and Basketball110 have canvassed users to vote here. Uga's was a "please help" note to others which is contrary to wp:canvass. Basketball110's was neutral in tone, but it does appear that the users were selected based on their "friendship" with Basketball110, so, in theory, inclined to support what he thinks. Metros (talk) 18:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Basketball110 is also now thanking every person who has !voted "keep" in this discussion. Metros (talk) 18:18, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Why are you deleting my question? Oh, by the way, Metros: it's WP:CANVASS. Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 18:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Talk to equazcion about why it's been taken out. Probably because you're asking two respected users on Wikipedia if they're bots or not for absolutely no logical reason. Metros (talk) 18:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
        • I agree, you are respected. But what does that make me, a bum? Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 18:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
          • If you ask respected users if they are bots, does it make you a bum? That's up for interpretation. What do you think it makes you? And what does this have to do with the topic at hand? Equazcion •✗/C • 18:26, 2 Mar 2008 (UTC)
          • If you're asking two users who are clearly not bots if they're bots just to prove a point, then you're wasting people's efforts. You can decide what title that awards you. Equazcion believes it's "troll", I'll reserve judgment. Metros (talk) 18:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
            • I'm off the trollish thing, so please forget it. Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 18:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - I've removed a troll-y comment left by Bastetball110 twice now - [1][2]. Equazcion •✗/C • 18:21, 2 Mar 2008 (UTC)
  • It was a question that was going towards a point. Will you answer it? Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 18:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
    • See WP:POINT. If you'd like to make a point, just say it. Don't ask rhetorical questions and expect people to play along. It's disruptive and wastes time. Equazcion •✗/C • 18:24, 2 Mar 2008 (UTC)
      • Take away fun, and you take away creativity. Take away creativity, and you have a robotic user. A robotic user is not bold. Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 18:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Thank you, that's at least forthright. Creativity itself is not the issue. You can be creative in ways that help the encyclopedia, such as in your writing style when contributing to articles. There are many different kinds of creativity, and prohibiting one type is not prohibiting them all. Most locales and forums prohibit creativity in some for or another; here, we prohibit the the kind that turns people's userspace into their own personal website. If you think that's wrong, then that's something you need to take up at WP:NOT. For now this is how things work here. Equazcion •✗/C • 18:31, 2 Mar 2008 (UTC)
          • Considering the recent edits made by Uga Man to his campaign, I see no reason to delete it. Take another look. Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 18:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
            • He just moved most of the content to his main user page. Moving content that's up for deletion just means the new location will be reverted if a delete decision is reached. Equazcion •✗/C • 18:33, 2 Mar 2008 (UTC)
            • It's basically a blog. "Here's what I think about the world" is essentially what it is. Metros (talk) 18:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)