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Earth coordinates

I've added earth coordinates to note (within a few feet) where Taylor's body was found, based on this map of the Alvarado Court apartments and descriptions of his bungalow. The site is on the north side of an asphalt parking lot. Gwen Gale (talk) 09:20, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Miles Minter

In the text of the article it states Minter's age as 19. However, according to the book WORLD FAMOUS UNSOLVED CRIMES, apparently it was revealed in the aftermath of the murder of Taylor that Miss Minter's age was 30, not 20 (or 19 as listed in the article). Halfabeet (talk) 12:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reliable sources I've seen say she was born in 1902. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've read Colin Wilson's recap of the Taylor case. It is very unreliable and contains many errors. I have a copy of Minter's birth certificate, which states 1902.--Pikabruce (talk) 21:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sands

In the book WORLD FAMOUS UNSOLVED CRIMES by the eminent Colin Wilson, it states that it was later revealed that Sands was in fact Taylor's brother, Denis, who had come to America with him years before. Wilson is usually a very reliable source Halfabeet (talk) 12:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That notion was debunked long ago, the two did not even resemble each other. As the article says, many later authors used newspaper reports which they did not understand had been sensationalized and even fictionalized. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MSN reference

This sourced assertion is highly problematic. First, who are "all leading authorities"? The source, which is a Microsoft Network entertainment blurb, does not say who these "authorities" are, or why they might dismiss Gibson's claim. Second, this looks like a very weak tertiary source which notes zero background or research into its sweeping, clearly mistaken assumption. The source does not meet WP:RS. I will remove this assertion and the source in time if no more reliable and thorough source is provided. Please note, this Wikipedia article does not assert that Gibson murdered Taylor, but that she made a dying confession to the murder, which is considered to be credible.

I would further ask that major edits having to do with this be discussed here on the talk page so other editors can participate. Thanks. Gwen Gale (talk) 05:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! I'm sorry! But that's a RIOT! Are you seriously trying to say that MSN is a less reliable source than a professor's personal newsletter? If your newsletter's alleged deathbed confession is "credible" - why can't you provide reliable sources for this POV information that you continue to insert into the article? If it is, in fact "widely considered credible" - why can't I find it anywhere other than circular references to the Taylorology newsletter? Surely, something so "credible" and "widely held" would have been published in the mainstream media.

And BTW, it is not a MAJOR edit. I'm just pointing out how completely ridiculous your POV pushing has become on this article. It's an UNSOLVED murder - that is the fact. Stop trying to have Wikipedia solve it for readers. Last I checked, I didn't see newsletters included in WP:RS. You may want to take a look at WP:HARM. I am deeply concerned that you may be opening Wikipedia up to a potential lawsuit from Ms. Gibson's family. Cleo123 (talk) 05:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 I would further ask that major edits having to do with this be discussed here on the talk page so other editors can participate. Thanks. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 05:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
+:LOL! I'm sorry! But that's a RIOT! Are you seriously trying to say that MSN is a less reliable source than a professor's personal newsletter? If your newsletter's alleged deathbed confession is "credible" - why can't you provide reliable sources for this POV information that you continue to insert into the article? If it is, in fact "widely considered credible" - why can't I find it anywhere other than circular references to the Taylorology newsletter? Surely, something so "credible" and "widely held" would have been published in the mainstream media.
+: And BTW, it is not a MAJOR edit. I'm just pointing out how completely ridiculous your POV pushing has become on this article. It's an UNSOLVED murder - that is the fact. Stop trying to have Wikipedia solve it for readers. Last I checked, I didn't see newsletters included in [[WP:RS]]. You may want to take a look at [[WP:HARM]]. I am deeply concerned that you may be opening Wikipedia up to a potential lawsuit from Ms. Gibson's family. [[User:Cleo123|Cleo123]] ([[User talk:Cleo123|talk]]) 05:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)