Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Janet Jackson

Janet Jackson

Nominator. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult)

previous FAC (22:25, 9 April 2008)

• Featured article candidates/Janet Jackson
• Featured article candidates/Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814/archive1
• Featured article candidates/Janet Jackson/archive1

• Nominator. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 09:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• You've mixed using the Template:Citation with the templates that start with Cite such as Template:Cite journal or Template:Cite news. They shouldn't be mixed per WP:CITE#Citation templates.
• Current ref 21 (Ripani, Richard...) has a bald url in it.
  • removed. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 02:14, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
• Per the MOS, all capitals shouldn't be used in titles of web pages. (Current ref97 (Weekes,Danielle) is an example)
  • changed. I think that was the only one. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 02:14, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Otherwise sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Note I'm still on the road, so replies may be slightly delayed. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - References have been reviewed and updated by Doibot. --Meldshal42? 22:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

• Support - I have contributed to the article recently, as part of its peer review. Before that my edits to this article were infrequent and minor.

I feel that it meets all criteria to a high standard. It is well written, interesting and engaging, and is fully sourced with reliable sources cited. There is variety in the sources so that it represents information drawn from a wide circle which helps reduce the likelihood of any viewpoints being given undue weight. It is neutral and offers a range of critical commentary. In addition to discussing her life and career evenly throughout as a chronology, the article also discusses her place in musical and cultural history and her overall influence and impact. This, I believe, gives it a greater depth than many articles relating to performers. I think it also compares favorably to other featured articles about entertainers, and surpasses many of them, in its depth and coverage. Rossrs (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comments:

• Logical quotation - "Scream,"; expressed "sentiments of nonsupport from the label."
• Non-breaking space - feelings...During; Billboard 200

Please check such examples. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 08:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

• I believe this is done. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 10:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

No. I still see a lot from the section Nutty Professor II down. Please do not use double quotation marks inside a quotation; use the single quotation marks instead. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 06:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I double checked and fixed any misquotes I saw. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

*Where is the closing quotation mark here: ...that "Janet was only eight years old when [her father] told her not to call him "Dad" anymore. As her manager, he would henceforth be addressed as "Joseph". Wesley already fixed it. --Efe (talk) 09:28, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

• Support The article was already in pretty good shape when I finally got around to answering Bookkeeper's requests for assistance (sorry about that). It has since improved even further and should now adhere to all FA criteria. It's very well-done--well-referenced and well-written, comprehensive without getting bogged down by unnecessary detail, is hopefully all the general reader needs to become familiar with the subject--and I'm certain Bookkeeper will do all that is possible to address any remaining concerns that may arise. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

• Small comment - I think the caption for the Superbowl pic should be something more general--"Jackson's wardrobe malfunction at the Superbowl" or the like... indopug (talk) 09:42, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
  • For the sake of encyclopedic tone I'd prefer the caption remains as is. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 09:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comments on images and music clips - The fair use rationales look sufficient to me. There are four fair use music clips but I do not know enough about Janet Jackson's music to judge whether they are all necessary; they look fine to me, but others with more knowledge should really weigh in on this point.

• Image:Janet Jackson & Justin Timberlake's wardrobe malfunction.jpg - The picture we have is not the same as the picture at the source. Awadewit (talk) 16:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
  • It took me a while to figure out what soundclips to use. All 4 demonstrate a unique aspect of her music: Nasty, Rhythm Nation and All for You demonstrate the evolution of her sound, from new jack swing to a more mainstream R&B/Pop style with varying elements of other genres; Nasty is also an example of how she uses her music as an autobiography. Black Cat is a requirement as it is the only song she has sole writing credit and its also the only unadulterated rock music production of her career. I've also updated the image with the source that is listed.

Comments by Realist²

• I think the superbowl thing suffers with slight undue weight. Most people outside the US shake their head in confusion at all the fuss, it panders to US viewpoint as a major incident, instead of an international, no big deal, viewpoint. Almost as much time is dedicated to it as the child sexual abuse accusation of 1993 against MJ over at Michael Jackson. Those allegations were significantly a much bigger deal than some tit falling out of a bra. Just saying it how it is. It needs a trim. — Realist² 22:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)