Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/ Onefortyone/ANON 80.141.et al/ Supplement

This page has been created by User:Ted Wilkes in conjunction with his Request for arbitration. This separte page is needed because User:Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al repeatedly makes references to certain people to declare Elvis Presley was gay as follows:

Dee Presley

• Here is an edit with complete fabrications about Dee Presley and states there is a book quoting content
  • After being confronted with the fact that no such book exists, Anon (Onefortyone) then varies the article slightly to this then added the National Enquirer as a Wikipedia reference

here

• • On the Elvis Presley talk page Talk:Elvis Presley/archive1 here Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 states:
• "A devoted Elvis fan is constantly deleting what is written about Presley's possible homosexuality in two different books on Elvis and some other sources. One of these sources is written by the king's stepmother, Dee Presley."

THEN Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 adds a bit later on the Talk page:

• "In an article by David S. Wall there is an interesting discussion of radical policing strategies implemented over the years by Elvis fan clubs and organisations. See The article clearly states that one of these strategies is " 'community policing' to achieve governance at a distance."

From declaring there is a book by Dee Presley stating Elvis was gay, to it being a "manuscript book" that Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 quotes from and lies that The Madison Entertainment Group, Inc., a subsidiary of Madison Group Associates, Inc., the manuscript owner in 1995 is a defunct company.

Note that after User:Ted Wilkes and others pointed out that an unpublished manuscript, whose contents and are in fact unknown, is not acceptable as a Wikipedia Reference, Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al continued to fabricate quotes from this manuscript which were then reinserted in the article he created titled Gay sex rumors about Elvis Presley (since deleted by a Wikipedia community vote).

Note also with respect to Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al’s claim that Dee Presley told the National Enquirer Elvis was gay that there is no record anywhere that Dee Presley ever made such a statement. Worth remembering is that Dee Staney-Presley has three sons, and all three stanley boys have written one or more books about Elvis. None ever mentions Elvis was gay or had a homosezual encounter, butb they do talk about his womanizing.

Note too, that Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al’s claimed Dee Stanely lived at Graceland for ten years. This is more of his “seeding” and misinformation to influence others at Wikipedia and Google searches done knowing that here at Elvis and Me, Priscilla Presley states that Elvis bought her and Vernon Presley a house as their wedding gift where they lived. Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al could care less about the facts elsewhere at Wikipedia – all he wants is to plant his fabrications.

Judy Spreckels

Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 writes in the David Bret article "Elvis and his boyfriend" here a total fabrication. Here [1] is what the article actually says.

I already pointed out that the claim of friendship by Spreckels is meaningless and irrelevant. She can claim anything she wants but the reality is she makes no reference to Elvis being gay anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Presley’s friendship with Nick Adams is a well known public fact with plenty of publicity photos and is well documented in respected writer Peter Guralnick 's book and Elaine Dundy's book (see Elvis and Gladys) plus numerous others. Spreckels was a Presley fanclub president, no more. Her giving an interview to a newspaper after "all these years" may have something to do with her trying to sell Presley memorabilia as here. Note, this "great friend," gets a form letter sent to the President of all Presley fanclubs.

Note that Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al likes to repeatedly refer to Gavin Lambert's writing but conveniently leaves out this passage from page 119 of Lambert’s gossip book on Natalie Wood that says:

• "Nick Adams, who happened to be in New York that week, had recently managed to ingratiate himself with Elvis Presley. He told Natalie (Wood) that the singer wanted to know if he might ask his favorite actress for a date. "Natalie was all shook up after Presley called and asked her to go out with him when she got back to Los Angeles"

Note that this information was already posted by User:Ted Wilkes at Talk:Nick Adams

David S. Wall

See: Talk:Elvis Presley/archive3#Response re "A reply to both of youse.":

Professor Wall's article as a legal article that states:

• This article is largely concerned with US intellectual property law, particularly the right of publicity whose origins lie in the right of privacy; however, the discussion has potential significance for European jurisdictions because of the development there of privacy rights under EU law.

Note also in the Talk:Nick Adams page here that User:Onefortyone himself refers to David Bret and the like as "gossip book authors" stating in his edit of 19:21, 18 August 2005 (UTC):

• "The only source not written by gossip book authors is the article by Professor Dr Wall, but he has not written about Nick Adams's sexual preferences." – Onefortyone

Despite the facts and both User:Wyss and User:Onefortyone's own admissions that there is no evidence Nick Adams was gay, it asserts that as a fact in the Presley article saying: "homosexual affair between Elvis and actor Nick Adams." And, the Presley article gives a link to the United Kingdom criminal law Professor David S. Wall article about United States intellectual property law where in fact Professor Wall makes no reference to the sexual preferences issue whatsoever as User:Onefortyone himself has declared. And, the text linked (by User:Onefortyone) to criminal law professor Wall further violates Wikipedia policy in that it is cloaked in weasel terms in an attempt to make the statement appear to have credibility.

User:Onefortyone/ANON 80.141's used weasel terms in the Presley article and tried to validate his personal opinion which infers that academically qualified, peer reviewed, and highly respected authors such as Alanna Nash and Peter Guralnick are part of a worldwide conspiracy to write only favorable views of Presley. Note that next to the illicit weasel terminology is this link [2] to Dr. Wall pretending that this statement is coming from him. The theory paper by UK criminal law professor David S. Wall never said that whatsoever. What professor Wall theorized upon was the Presley fan clubs and appreciation societies (his term) whom he labeled as all being part of the moral majority (his description).

Quoting the United Kingdom Professor is a tenuous proposition at best as User:Ted Wilkes pointed out. The Wikipedia warning (Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Beware false authority) specifically refers to Ph.D's writing about matters where they have no expertise. The UK professor stated a Dee Presley book was published then withdrawn. It never happened and professor Wall should have simply gone to the United States Library of Congress online database here (on the web since 1993) and searched: Presley, Dee for this supposed book. All published books are registered at the Library of Congress. If it is published and withdrawn as this claims, it still had to be registered and given an ISBN number to be sold. Had professor Wall looked on the web, and his article says he did Web research, it would show Dee Stanley-Presley only published one book and that was in 1980 (released January 1, 1981) sold here. It is strange that a university professor didn't do that basic research, after all, his own books are registered there as required by law. (See United states Library of Congress Wall, David = Wall, David, 1956-). Next, for UK professor Wall to say that an American publisher would withdraw an Elvis book from the market is absurd. Every publisher dreams of getting that kind of controversial publicity for their books. Today, authors spend big money for press agents to drum up publicity for new releases and many plant controversial stories to generate publicity. Then, there are those who use Wikipedia as a free advertising instrument.

Despite all the information above already posted on the Presley Talk page, this unrelated speculation that there is a worldwide conspiracy at work at Wikipedia to prevent anything negative from being said about Elvis Presley was inserted by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141.et al into his now-deleted article Gay sex rumors about Elvis Presley.

Nick Adams

• a fabrication here and here and after many arguments with User:Wyss changes it to Weasel words that "Adams seems to have had homosexual leanings" and puts in the David Bret book reference, again. And Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al plays the game in this edit and more here of the same unfounded statements.

From Talk:Elvis Presley/archive1  : In the article on Nick Adams, Onefortyone/ANON 80.141.et al inserted the same thing about Dee Presley and came up with yet another version at Talk:Nick Adams which says:

• "that he was homosexual. Indeed, this accusation (by Bret's book) is proved by Elvis's stepmother, Dee Presley, and by his platonic girlfriend Judy Spreckels."

In conjunction with the fact that there is a total lack of evidence that Nick Adams was gay, the opposite is stated here in an article on Nick Adams that says "Although Nick was straight, and Dean was bi-sexual." And, there is no evidence from any reputable source that Nick Adams was gay or even a close friend of James (Jimmy) Dean. In fact, author John Gilmore said here "With Nick Adams it had been the same way, even with Natalie Wood—Jimmy (Dean) avoided them. Once off the (movie) set, he went out of his way to go in the opposite direction."

Raymond Burr

• Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al did four edits, the first here to the Raymond Burr article, inserting the word homosexual and making a reference and link to Natalie Wood.

Gavin Lambert

• Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al created the Gavin Lambert article. He refers to the book Lambert wrote on actress Natalie Wood but as seen here, the entire reference is a claim that Wood dated gay men and states Nick Adams was gay.

Note that the Guardian newspaper here warns readers that the book is gossip. Attempts by others to remove non-encyclopedic gossip from the article was met with more than two dozen reverts by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al.

Natalie Wood

First edit by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al in Natalie Wood is to insert as fact unsubstantiated gossip declaring as fact as seen here that Nick Adams was gay so as to link this to Elvis Presley

Again, on the Talk:Natalie Wood page, Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al created an edit war.

James Dean

The very first edit (17:47, 4 July 2005) by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al is to insert [here an unfounded and unreferenced claim that James Dean was bisexual. This Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al will revert without explanation then insert an External link here to someone’s personal website that claims James Dean had a homosexual relationship with Nick Adams. After others deleted these edits, six week later (15:42, 16 August 2005) Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al reinserted them here.

On September 3rd Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al added James Dean to his hit list making six edits that created a section he titled "Rumors about Dean's homosexual leanings." This was followed by an edit war. All of the edits to these articles have been orchestrated through referencing and targeted linking to Nick Adams

00:45, 4 September 2005 Onefortyone (I have added two additional sources to the text which undoubtedly support my view. Do not revert the page without giving any reasons.)

Decades after Dean's death, author Boze Hadleigh published a 1972 interview with Sal Mineo in which the actor said, "Nick (Adams) told me they had a big affair-" [3]

Boze Hadleigh

In the Nick Adams article [ here], Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al inserted:

• "Boze Hadleigh's book, Hollywood Gays (1996) and William J. Mann's Behind the Screen: How Gays and Lesbians Shaped Hollywood 1910-1969 (2001), claim that before his success as an actor Adams was a male prostitute catering to men. This is related to similar rumours about James Dean who is claimed to have been involved in this with Adams."

On the Talk:Nick Adams I pointed out here that both Publishers Weekly and the Library Journal had discredited Boze Hadleigh's book and that the William J. Mann reference was a complete fabrication by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al here

Note that Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al admitted here what he wrote in the article was in fact a complete fabrication stating:

• "O.K. The reference to this source should be deleted. However, there are several other sources supporting the fact that Adams was gay."

Alanna Nash

User:Ted wilkes wrote here at Talk:Elvis Presley/archive1:

• Check out the website for Alanna Nash and read the accolades from major sources including Billboard Magazine that called her work a "classic of music industry reporting." In the UK, The Observer called her book "perhaps the most thoroughly researched music book ever written." -- Amazing, all this exacting research and Alanna Nash didn't learn about Elvis being blackmailed by the Colonel because he was gay.

Here is Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al's totally fabricated reply:

• "It should also be taken into account that most parts of Nash's book were written before Dee Presley published her recent accusations."