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==Need to be kept under control==
==Need to be kept under control==
Twice in the last 2 days I've been reorganising content, including refs, and AnomieBOT has caused edit conflicts. In the second instance, [[Physiology of dinosaurs]] (see hist), I'd put an "in use" template on the article. This bot should be house-trained to edit only articles that have not been edited for a while (e.g. 1 hour), and to leave strictly alone articles that have "in use" templates. -- [[User:Philcha|Philcha]] ([[User talk:Philcha|talk]]) 12:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Twice in the last 2 days I've been reorganising content, including refs, and AnomieBOT has caused edit conflicts. In the second instance, [[Physiology of dinosaurs]] (see hist), I'd put an "in use" template on the article. This bot should be house-trained to edit only articles that have not been edited for a while (e.g. 1 hour), and to leave strictly alone articles that have "in use" templates. -- [[User:Philcha|Philcha]] ([[User talk:Philcha|talk]]) 12:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

: AnomieBOT does only edit articles that have not been edited for a while, see lines 135–141 of <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AnomieBOT/source/tasks/OrphanReferenceFixer.pm&oldid=237838452 the source]</span>. Looking for {{tl|in use}} is a good idea, and I will add that feature later today. You could also use {{tl|nobots}}, which is specifically designed to exclude bots. That template doesn't have a timeout like {{tl|in use}} does, though, so you would have to remember to remove it when you are done. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 16:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome, Bot

Just saying "Hi" to the bot so the redlink will go away. You're showing up in my watchlist a lot. Keep up the good work. Katr67 (talk) 19:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AnomieBOT says "thank you" as he moves on towards his 200th article removed from Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting. Then I get to look and see if we can teach him to get any of what he misses in the first pass. Anomie 23:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For this article, the bot actually autocorrected what amounted to vandalism (the removal of sourced information). Can we get it to revert rather than cleanup? Chubbles (talk) 20:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, that's a hard problem. How is the bot supposed to know if the removal of "Screamo" was a legitimate correction or not? Anomie 23:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just don't want to see the bot hiding vandalism; it contradicts the dictum to do no harm. Chubbles (talk) 14:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How exactly is the bot "hiding" anything? Anomie 17:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If a user deletes content sourced by a multi-ref citation, and the bot comes by (in a matter of minutes) to restore the ref naming, it masks the deletion of the sourced content. We'd want the broken refs to stick out, so that it's apparent to another user that someone has been monkeying with the article's sourcing. Chubbles (talk) 17:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Other bots and even human users do the same thing; I've rather often seen someone revert the latest vandal edit in a series but leave the previous edits that were just as bad (for example, [1]; not that I blame the vandal fighters for missing it, they do good work). The solution isn't to not fix things, the solution is to look at more than just the single previous edit when you're looking at changes to the article. Anomie 20:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My problem is that a bot is doing it. I can tell a user about his mistake; bots don't learn unless their owners do. Chubbles (talk) 20:17, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm impressed by this bot's ability to rescue orphaned references

EVCM (talk) 21:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he's a hard worker. Anomie 23:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, you did a great job, Anomie! -- ReyBrujo (talk) 21:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This edit broke the reference! Sorry, -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 23:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I lied...the ref was off (a typo by me), but it did point it to the wrong <ref name=> thing....it should have made it point to <ref name="Naval Engineers"/>, not <ref name="Naval"/> ... Sorry for my confusion!! -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 23:36, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That might be a common typo, and I have already added code to correct <ref name=foo bar> to <ref name="foo bar"> instead of just <ref name=foo> so this wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Thanks for letting me know. Anomie 01:29, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellence

I've got an annoying tendency to accidentally orphan refs, so seeing this bot fix Valerie Plame gave me a big grin. Cheers! Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AnomieBOT says "You're welcome!" Anomie 14:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A goof?

In Mount Hood, this edit by the bot suggests it thinks it is fixing a reference, but it deleted the cite reference—which didn't have a problem. It might have been triggered by a reference I forgot to provide in the previous edit. Could a missing definition for [17] confuse the bot whether [9] was valid? —EncMstr (talk) 05:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually an invalid reference, someone left out the "=". I'm actually shocked that the software accepted it at all; it actually interprets the ref as <ref name="name">. I suppose I can add yet another special case to try to catch this sort of error.
The missing definition on #17 was what flagged the page with Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and attracted the bot, but otherwise it had nothing to do with the issue. Anomie 12:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need to be kept under control

Twice in the last 2 days I've been reorganising content, including refs, and AnomieBOT has caused edit conflicts. In the second instance, Physiology of dinosaurs (see hist), I'd put an "in use" template on the article. This bot should be house-trained to edit only articles that have not been edited for a while (e.g. 1 hour), and to leave strictly alone articles that have "in use" templates. -- Philcha (talk) 12:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AnomieBOT does only edit articles that have not been edited for a while, see lines 135–141 of the source. Looking for {{in use}} is a good idea, and I will add that feature later today. You could also use {{nobots}}, which is specifically designed to exclude bots. That template doesn't have a timeout like {{in use}} does, though, so you would have to remember to remove it when you are done. Anomie 16:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]