User talk:Hafspajen

Archive October 2008

Westerners were often viewed as people who constantly said "hello" and little else. Hello boys! 'Hello Sister, what's the matter with you... "Hello, George," or "Hello, Jim." ' Hullo, Brown! where do you come from?"

"Come, thou shant go home, and we'll have flesh for holidays, fish for fasting-days, and moreo'er puddings and flap-jacks, and thou shalt be welcome."

William Shakespeare, Pericles, Prince of Tyre Act II Scene I

RE:Asado

Don't ask me. I'm not very familiar with South American dishes either. But it looked like vandalism because he was removing information, that is why I reverted him    Juthani1   ^tcs 22:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

The problem has its roots on the lack of sources these many articles contain. This "IP Address" is taking advantage of the lack of sources in order to make his deletions seem valid. Still, even though such a thing would generally be considered acceptable, there is a trend for this user to aim at deleting things for the sake of destruction of the article in order to push his POV and not to actually improve it. This is why the edits of this "IP Address" can and should be considered vandalism.--[|!*//MarshalN20\\*!|] (talk) 13:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Paella Article

I'm afraid I disagree with you on two points.

With respect to mentioning Valencians speaking Catalan, here's what you said:

Not everybody knows who the Valencians are. Things which are obvious to you, a Spanish talking person – well, they might not be that clear for others, you know. That is why mentioning the language, some illiterate people from U.S. may think that they are Italian ppeople from Venice or get confused in other ways. You need to mention that when you introduce the information, not later, or below.

As I stated in the comment, the fact that Valencians speak Catalan is hardly central to an article on paella. In fact, I had included that information in the opening paragraphs of an earlier version of the article but another editor pointed out its lack of importance and, after some thought, I came to agree with him. Also, I fail to see how an illiterate American (by the way I'm an Hispanic-American) could assume an entire region of Spain could be Italian, especially when the article clearly points out that the Valencian region is part of Spain. However, in the interests of compromise, I moved that information down to the history section.

With respect to Valencians insisting on ingredients, you said:

Well, this sounds like: the Valencians insist , but you disagree. Anyway it is not a neutral way of expressing something. It is better to use some other , more neutral way of expressing this.

There's nothing biased about describing things as they really are. Valencians are, in fact, very insistent about the ingedients of Valencian paella. I see nothing wrong with the way I wrote that sentence. I intend to leave it as is. LuisGomez111 (talk) 22:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Have a nice day,

Warrington (talk) 22:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Gastronomy of South America

Can you support the information that you are adding in much articles? I am only cleaning the evidently fake facts, but you insists in support them. Why give false information? For not making the things wrong, I will not go back to remove it, but I hope that you can refer that information in the short term, and justify the categorizations. --201.255.136.53 (talk) 23:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I am not adding anything. The information was there before, you removed it and I put it back.

But your new approach asking for references is much much better, and you did a nice contribution on SOME articleS, organising it much better.

I asked for a third opinion, se below, Cuisine of Chile.

You should discuss your changes before removing banners on Wikipedia talk pages. Warrington (talk) 08:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

BUT YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN THIS

Warning: Vandalism Your recent edits noted as "clean up" have been false allegations that have been pushing your POV rather than actually "cleaning up" the article. Also, you have been deleting project banners in TALK pages and that certainly does not help your cause. This is not meant to scare you or prevent you from making further edits to Wikipedia. I would recommend you to create an account if you seriously wish to contribute to Wikipedia, and in such a way other editors will be able to hold a better conversation with you and you'll also be able to present your points with much more validity. Thank you, and please remember to stop doing the mentioned things.--[|!*//MarshalN20\\*!|] (talk) 14:03, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

AND THIS

Warning: Deleting Banners Please do not delete the project banners in talk pages. These are meant to represent that a specific group of editors in Wikipedia are focused on improving the article. No, contrary to what you seem to think the banners are not meant to symbolize ownership of the article or talk page. This is simply a warning, but if you continue doing these kind of acts please be aware that I or any other Wikipedist will have this message as a background to accuse you of continued vandalizing after being warned. Thank you, and please edit Wikipedia with constructive inclusions.--[|!*//MarshalN20\\*!|] (talk) 13:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Cuisine of Chile

I have no formal sources in relation to this topic, but as a Chilean, I can say to you that they are a part of the Chilean cuisine, independently of the origin of those dishes. Jespinos (talk) 18:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I suspected it, and why not? Probably the cuisines of Latin America do share a lot of dishes with each other. But I think it is often the case that some countries feel that dishes are their own and forget that others also have them. People need to see that they share traditions with each other.

Warrington (talk) 19:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Paella

Thank you. LuisGomez111 (talk) 19:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Greek recipes

Hello from Athens! I didn't quite understand your comment on my talk page; was there a reference in the article leading to a deleted page? I'm not sure how to fix it, ask an administrator who is sure to be more competent than myself. However, if you are looking for Greek recipes, take a look at this link. It's a link to the Greek National Tourism Organisation that provides recipes in English. Happy cooking! Pel thal (talk) 15:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I see what you mean. Unfortunately I cannot answer your question about whether the link to the cookbook was always empty or not, because I had never opened it before today(...). But I agree that a new cookbook should be created! As I'm not a good cook, I cannot help out with any recipes:) Cheers! Pel thal (talk) 23:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Paella Article RFC

I've placed a "Request For Comment" tag on the bottom of the discussion page for this article in an attempt to initiate dispute resolution. Please participate. LuisGomez111 (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Chicken marsala stub removal

Hi. I noticed that you removed the Italian cuisine stub from chicken marsala, and I was just curious as to your reasoning for that. Sure, it's really more Italian-American cuisine or Italian-inspired cuisine, but the stub is useful for sorting purposes and also to help direct editors to the article that needs expansion and editing. At a minimum, some sort of cuisine stub should be added, don't you think? --Friejose (talk) 13:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I think you are right, the article needs expansion

Warrington (talk) 13:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for putting the stub back in, and I agree with you that it is appropriate right now. I'll try to do my part to expand the article so we can get rid of the stub. --Friejose (talk) 13:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Happy editing!

Warrington (talk) 22:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

You have been accused of sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/LuisGomez111 (2nd nomination). Thank you. Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 15:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Not true. But I was discussing the Big Paella War with my partner, who use the name Bluee Mountain. But as far as I know it is not forbidden.

Warrington (talk) 15:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked for 24 hours for socking per Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/LuisGomez111 (2nd nomination). — Rlevse • Talk • 02:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

That is quite a misunderstanding. I have nothing to do with Gomez. And John (Bluee Mountain) is my fiancé and we live together. I cooked him a paella and told him that the recipe was from the article. He was reading the article and apparently taged it. What he thinks and what he does it is etirely up to him. And when he got into this edit war with Gomez and Mountolive we were talking about it and I told him that I think Gomez is a nice editor and if there is a problem than it is probably the other guys fault. And since Gomez left me a message, I read the talk page myself and I got angry, right? If it is against the Wikipedia policy to even talk about your own edits you made whit your partner, and live and edit in the same place, than I am sorry that I ever made one good contrib to this thing. And if you don t apologize for accusing me wrong than I leave Wikipedia and I will never edit it again. I have better things to do than do a lot of work without any payment and get persecuted for it too.

Warrington (talk) 09:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry to see you were blocked. Apparently this administrator is out on a witch hunt. However, you might be interested in knowing that Mountolive is now accusing you of being my meat puppet (an editor who does whatever another editor wants). I thought you might want to defend yourself. By the way, once again, thanks for the kind words. LuisGomez111 (talk) 11:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)