User talk:Jayen466

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Lean Six Sigma

You left the following comment before deleting my entry on Lean Six Sigma:

"I agree that Lean Six Sigma is a notable topic that deserves an article, but this, which doesn't cite a single WP:RS as a reference, is not it. Please research how LSS is treated in WP:RS"

Would my entry be acceptable if I included references or do you disagree with the content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold Paperclip (talk • contribs) 17:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi. There are a number of things missing to make an article, like:

• Who first invented the term Lean Six Sigma, and when?
• Notable people/companies?
• The assertion that Six Sigma is LSS but LM isn't needs a source making that claim.

I appreciate your trying to create an article for Lean Six Sigma. There used to be one, and it got deleted, because it was just companies' advertisements for themselves. But it needs a bit more research. Try google books: [1] These days you can read many books online, at least in part. Best wishes, Jayen466 19:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Tahir Shah's Sorcerer's Apprentice

Hi Jayen, do you think that Sorcerer's apprentice should be moved to Sorcerer's Apprentice (book)? See Talk:Sorcerer's apprentice.

p.s. Sent a letter to Safia and Ian Thomas on Monday. Cheers, EricT (talk) 16:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

 Done Thanks again, EricT (talk) 09:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Safia Shah

Hi Jayen, haven't as yet heard from Safia and Ian Thomas (and Tahir is now off on a Brazilian tour promoting a translation of Sorcerer's Apprentice 'til 22nd Nov).

Now have a bit more to work with at User:Esowteric/Sandbox‎, detail still needs filling in. Cheers, EricT (talk) 11:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Okeydoke. Well done with the page move and disambiguation. Cheers, Jayen466 17:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Having sent a letter on Monday, I still haven't heard back from Safia and Ian Thomas and have a feeling I won't get a reply. A while back I also emailed Octagon asking if they had any details on the Daily Telegraph Book of the Year (eg the year) and the Literary Review, again without reply.

What do you think we should do, Jayen? Go with what Tahir said (that he thought Safia would be flattered by the entry)? Do you think we have enough to initially pass muster re. notability (have now added more detail such as history and references to the separate section on A.Gold) and see how the article develops over time? You know better than I do (though I admit to wanting to publish it). Cheers, EricT (talk) 14:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I wouldn't put it out. Not that there is anything wrong with it – it may even pass notability, technically – just that it doesn't really feel like she is, or wants to be, a public figure. But it's your baby. If you want to squeeze it out, go ahead ... (and if you do, then we'll have to update the family template). Up to you. Cheers, Jayen466 17:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Jayen. I'll leave it on hold unless I get Safia's okay and she is willing to provide more detail. Cheers, EricT (talk) 17:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Permission for images

Hi Jayen, I find the documentation on what to do after obtaining permission for images confusing. Is this right: User talk:Esowteric#Saira Elizabeth Luiza Shah image ? Cheers, EricT (talk) 13:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Re Safia Shah image: cheers. Will see if I've got the SEL Shah procedure right first, otherwise I might have two cock-ups on the go :) EricT (talk) 14:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, have just sent TS a grant form for SEL Shah image. Hopefully getting there after several botched attempts. As a newbie, what threw me was this: Wikipedia_talk:Example_requests_for_permission#No_mention_of_grant_form. Cheers, EricT (talk) 10:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations for your sense of humor

Hello, Jayen466. At last I find someone in Wikipedia with a sense of humor, your jokes of Nasrudin are very good. Perhaps you know that an old yoga rule to tell a true guru from a false one is that Gurus who have no sense of humor and always speak in a grave, serious, or angry ad neve use humour way cannot be true. I will tell you my favourite joke about intellectuals, heard from Prem Rawat: "An intellectual is a person who always think he's right and the other guy is wrong, even if the other guy says the same". Of course there are also humble intellectuals, this is only a joke. I would gladly add a well deserved star for your sense of humor to your page, if I knew how to do it. Best regards.--Pedrero (talk) 11:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. As you enjoy them, here is another one:

One day the King decided that he would force all his subjects to tell the truth.
A gallows was erected in front of the city gates. A herald announced, "Whoever would enter the city must first answer the truth to a question which will be put to him."
Nasrudin was first in line. The captain of the guard asked him, "Where are you going? Tell the truth – the alternative is death by hanging."
"I am going," said Nasrudin, "to be hanged on that gallows."
"I don't believe you."
"Very well, if I have told a lie, then hang me!"
"But that would make it the truth!"
"Exactly," said Nasrudin, "YOUR truth."

— Idries Shah

In fact, I think I should add that one as well. :-) As for barnstars, see Wikipedia:Barnstars. They are usually placed on a user's talk page, and proud recipients then transfer them to their user page. Cheers, Jayen466 12:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)