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== DYK for Fairfield Grammar School ==


== Adam Raphael ==


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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 20:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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:Thanks for letting me know, BorgQueen. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] 10:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== Mark Hanbury Beaufoy ==
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:Thanks again, BorgQueen! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] 13:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== DYK ==

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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> Congatulations! --[[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 20:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:Many thanks, PeterSymonds. Pleased to see the picture could be used. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 20:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Move of St. Bees School ==

The standard British usage may be without the full stop, however the school uses and always has used the full stop. Unless you have a better authority than a Wikipedia guideline I am going to move it back. Regards, [[User:Harlsbottom|Harlsbottom]] ([[User talk:Harlsbottom|talk]] | [[User:Harlsbottom/Library|library]]) [[Image:Naval Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg|God's Own Navy|20px]] 18:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:I believe [[St Bees]] itself follows the [[Church of England]] in using no full stop. But if the school spells itself in a different way... [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 18:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

::It's been a while since I've been to St. Bees, and can't remember what the signs say - just because the Wikipedia article did doesn't mean that it does drop the full stop. If anything the main board sign at the station reads S<sup><u>T</u></sup> B<small>EES</small> (albeit an old sign). Anyway, thanks for the swift response, I think I will revert back to the norm on the school articles. --[[User:Harlsbottom|Harlsbottom]] ([[User talk:Harlsbottom|talk]] | [[User:Harlsbottom/Library|library]]) 18:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Ghulab A. Khan]] ==

Congratulations on spotting this hoax - I've done a bit more research and taken it to AfD [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ghulab A. Khan|here]]. Regards, [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD|talk]]) 21:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
:(''[[Bowing|Bow]]s''). [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 21:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== My great grandfather! ==

Hi there,
I have been looking into my family history, and I noticed you'd edited a page about my Great Grandfather, George Leighton Seager:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leighton_Seager%2C_1st_Baron_Leighton_of_St_Mellons.

I was wondering what you'd edited, and how you discovered the history of my family? I'm looking to build a family tree so any info you have would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Holly [[User:Hollyanna85|Hollyanna85]] ([[User talk:Hollyanna85|talk]]) 09:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hi, Holly. Looks as if my only edit to your great grand-dad was to add him to the category of Old Queenians (not to worry, it just means he went to [[Queen's College, Taunton]]). Most of that page doesn't seem to be from the sources listed there... perhaps some of it's from ''[[Who's Who (UK)|Who's Who]]''? I'll look him up. Your great-great-grandfather [[William Henry Seager]] sounds like an interesting character. Greetings, [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Francis Fox Tuckett]] ==

Hi Xn4, midway through this article and I was just wondering whether any of your rich sources might shed light on quite what his being 'a gentleman farmer' entailed. Or indeed on anything else (education etc). Thanks. [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] ([[User talk:Ericoides|talk]]) 19:27, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hi, Ericoides. I've done a little with your new article, and it's inspired me to create [[Cimon della Pala]], which you may be able to improve.
:The first 'gentlemen farmers' were essentially landowners who farmed some or all of their own land, at a time when farming was a trade, a business, and a gentleman was a man who could live well (employ servants, keep a horse, live in a good house, etc.) without the need to work... even if he did choose to work. Farmers went to market to buy and sell, and a gentleman farmer did, too, but he was socially distinct. Presumably Tuckett was a farmer who fell into that bracket, working land at Frenchay? [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 01:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::Great, thanks for your help. Some sources say he was a businessman, and this would tally with his daily walks to and from Bristol, something for which one imagines a farmer would not have time. However, given what you say about gentlemen farmers, perhaps these walks don't raise this problem. A very nice article on Cimon della Pala, incidentally. [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] ([[User talk:Ericoides|talk]]) 07:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cimon della Pala ==

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:Many thanks for updating me, BorgQueen. I think the coat of arms works well as a thumb for the main page! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 22:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Comment ==
I was wondering whether you wanted nominating for adminship. If so, you can contact me on my talk page. Regards, [[User:Rudget|<span style="color:#8B0000;font-weight:bold">Rudget</span>]] <small>(<span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?user=Rudget logs]</span>)</small> 16:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:That's very flattering, Rudget, thanks! I'll bear your kind offer in mind in case the ambition comes my way. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 16:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::That's fine. :) [[User:Rudget|<span style="color:#8B0000;font-weight:bold">Rudget</span>]] <small>(<span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?user=Rudget logs]</span>)</small> 08:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== ''Robin Hood'' ==

The following inquiry is embedded into the article on [[Jessie Bartlett Davis]]: "If this is the [[George Macfarren]] opera, perhaps link to [[Robin Hood in popular culture#Music]]."

CLARIFICATION: "Oh Promise Me" is in ''Robin Hood'' by [[Reginald De Koven]] and [[Clement Scott]]. See also http://www.parlorsongs.com/issues/2002-1/thismonth/featurea.php . Richard David Ramsey 04:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks, I've updated [[Jessie Bartlett Davis]] and added the citation. regards, [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 04:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

==[[Robert Lock Graham Irving|Irving]]==
Hi Xn4, just started this article, any help much appreciated, as ever. [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] ([[User talk:Ericoides|talk]]) 17:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:Good work. Thanks. [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] ([[User talk:Ericoides|talk]]) 22:04, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
::No trouble. I'm done for tonight. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 22:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Would there be any life and family details on [[William Penhall]]? I can't seem to find much online. Thanks. [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] ([[User talk:Ericoides|talk]]) 22:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Sure, I'll take a look. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 22:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::It would be [[Wilfrid Noyce|noyce]] if the DNB or similar had anything on him? Thanks. [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] 23:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::I've replied [[User talk:Ericoides|here]]. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 03:27, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for adding those latest details. [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] ([[User talk:Ericoides|talk]]) 08:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== Martin Rota ==

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:Many thanks, BorgQueen! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 23:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Consistency ==

When you nominate an article, please remember "(''pictured'')" should be "''(pictured)''". --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 21:12, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:''([[Blushing|He blushes]].)'' [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 21:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
::Dimples will look cute if you have, especially when you blush. :-D --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 15:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:::He falls off chair. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:54, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pierre Lorillard II]] ==

Your input would be appreciated at '''Talk:Pierre Lorillard II''' on the term ''millionaire''. Thanks. --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 15:59, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:No problem, I've added my thoughts, which are that the word ''millionaire'' evidently came in from [[French language|French]] in about the 1820s. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 16:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for your input, it was appreciated. Submitted alternate hooks for consideration. I conceded.--[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 20:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::No trouble! Sorry I couldn't help you, but ''magna est veritas et praevalebit''. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 20:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

== July 21 DYK ==

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:Many thanks, Bedford! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 23:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Thurning DYK ==

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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> Congratulations! --[[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 19:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for letting me know, PeterSymonds! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 20:02, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

== Mamhead DYK ==

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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --Congratulations! [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 15:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Again, many thanks for letting me know, PeterSymonds. Picture looks good. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== William Plenderleath DYK ==

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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --Congratulations! [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 22:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:And thanks again! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 02:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

== Olive Willis DYK ==

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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --Congratulations! [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 05:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks again, PeterSymonds! You seem busy at the moment. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 09:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

== Pierre Abraham Lorillard DYK ==

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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --Congratulations! [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 12:41, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks, Peter! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 20:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

== William Goodenough Hayter DYK ==

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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --Congratulations! [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 03:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:Great Scott, that must be some kind of record! I only [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=prev&oldid=228109425 nominated it] at 01:55, about an hour and a half ago! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 03:28, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

::That was lucky. :D I'd just about run out of eligible hooks for the 21st, so I moved onto the 22nd for a few. Great article! [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 03:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Thanks! (...still working on it). [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 03:52, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

==Image of Ivy Gordon-Lennox==

I ended up featuring this in the top slot, but not before I had to screw around for fifteen minutes looking for a valid copyright tag for it. Could you please be a bit more careful to ensure that pics you nominate for DYK have valid tags next time? It might save the DYK folks unnecessary hassles. Thanks, [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 06:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

:Hi. I'm sorry, Gatoclass, I'm struggling with the above. I see I included the <nowiki>{{PD-Art}}</nowiki> tag when I uploaded the image to Commons. If that isn't valid, can you suggest a better one, please? Regards, [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 14:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

==DYK==
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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --[[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 07:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

:Many thanks for updating me. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 14:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== Honor ==

Thanks, thats good to know I just thought it was a typo. I will watch out for those.--[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 15:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== Master of Arts, disambiguation ==

Thank for your feedback, I see the point you are making. I will share what I was doing, but will admit that this was actually my first time working on a disambiguation project so my logic may have been flawed (at which point I will do what needs to be done to resolve - I want to do the right thing).

For Master of Arts where it was evident from the given university that it fell into one of the three categories ([[Master of Arts (postgraduate)]], [[Master of Arts (Oxford, Cambridge and Dublin)]], [[Master of Arts (Scotland)]]), I of course made the appropriate selection. In the cases where as you point out there was no way to determine for certain the origin of the degree, I did use the [[Master of Arts (postgraduate)]] disambiguation as the default, because that article appeared to me to be written as a default start point. It discusses in the intro that the degrees are different in different parts of the world, and specifically identifies that the Oxford, Cambridge and Dublin and Scotland degrees as different. So my thinking was that that was more useful for someone clicking on the link to get more info, than the disambiguation page where they will have to guess as to which might apply to what they're reading.

By using the term ''positive choice'' in your feedback, I am assuming you have more experience with these matters than I do. Please advise if you don't think this makes sense or is counter to a standard. Thanks. [[User:Keithh|Keithh]] ([[User talk:Keithh|talk]]) 01:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

:I can't agree that the [[Master of Arts (postgraduate)]] page is either a "disambiguation" page or "the default... written as a default start point." It isn't the default. For instance, if an MA may, for all we know, be a Scottish MA, then "postgraduate" plainly excludes it. Frankly, I find your edit summary of "ambiguity corrected" both self-important and mistaken, where the [[lowest common denominator]] is needed, and that is [[Master of Arts]]. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 01:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== DYK ==

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:Many thanks, Wafulz! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --[[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 03:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks again, Daniel! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 10:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== 50 DYK Medal ==

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|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Awarded to [[User:Xn4|Xn4]], for his 50, and growing, collection of articles featured on [[T:DYK|Did you know?]] Keep it up and the whole [[ODNB]] will be obsolete! [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 20:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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:Thank you very much, JayHenry! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 20:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

:: p.s. I love the way you have the hooks displayed on the user page. Cool idea! If my hooks ever had pictures I'd do that, but it doesn't work quite as well without any pictures... --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 20:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

:::I'll let you into a secret... First, catch your hare. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 20:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

==DYK==
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:Many thanks, Gatoclass! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 14:18, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Re: 2nd Marquess of Dorset ==

Hi! I removed a space between the header (==Family==) and the paragraph itself. That's why the change is shown this way. I also repaired a link to a disambiguation page (George Neville). [[User:Fratrep|Fratrep]] ([[User talk:Fratrep|talk]]) 13:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:No problem. I see [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] has moved [[George Neville]] to [[George Neville, archbishop of York]]. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 13:40, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

==DYK==
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:Thanks for letting me know, Gatoclass. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 17:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

==Dividing concepts==

"redlink to San Michele di Murano, for consistency" - your edit summary at [[Pietro Delfino]]. I thought I'd air this issue with you, since I disapprove of splitting concepts without a good reason. If <nowiki>"[[monastery of X]]" is divided as "[[monastery]] of [[X]]", that may seem OK, but would you really divide "[[X Abbey]]" as "[[X]] [[Abbey]]"?</nowiki> On the whole, dividing within redlinks should be a sign that there is no need of an article, I think. [[User:Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] ([[User talk:Charles Matthews|talk]]) 08:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:The consistency I had in mind was with two other redlinks to the same monastery, ''viz.'' in our articles on [[Giacinto Placido Zurla]] and [[Nicola Giacomo Mittarelli]]. I agree that an article is justified, and no, I wouldn't divide <nowiki>"[[X Abbey]]" as "[[X]] [[Abbey]]</nowiki>, but [[San Michele di Murano]] could only be the monastery: the place where the monastery was is [[Murano]]. I'm not sure that [[Monastery of San Michele at Murano]] is the most likely title of an article on this, but perhaps it's a bit academic, until someone starts one, and there isn't even one on the Italian Wikipedia yet. Regards, [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Robert Gittings]] ==

Hello. I saw your article on [[Robert Gittings]]. Just to point out that your link to [[George Mallaby]] seems to go to the wrong person! [[User:Brichcja|Chris]] ([[User talk:Brichcja|talk]]) 20:09, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:Many thanks, my mistake, I'll sort it out. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 20:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

::Okay, I've started [[George Mallaby (public servant)]] and taken the link there. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 05:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mount Garmo ==

I've tweaked your hook to make it more interesting. Please visit [[Template:Did you know/Next update|here]] and see if it is okay. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 12:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

:Up to you... maybe "...[[Ismoil Somoni Peak|the higher peak]]..."? [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

==Schools in Cheshire==
Hi, since you're the editor who started the [[:Template:Schools in Cheshire]] I thought I should let you know that I've removed one of the schools listed there. Stockport Grammar is in Greater Manchester. I don't know if there are any others there that shouldn't be in the template. [[User:Nev1|Nev1]] ([[User talk:Nev1|talk]]) 18:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:No doubt you're right, in terms of local government reform. Most people in [[Stockport]] seem to be happy that the outside world continues to write to them in "Stockport, Cheshire", and of course the school is correctly in the category [[:Category:Ancient grammar schools of Cheshire|Ancient grammar schools of Cheshire]]... [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 05:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mount Garmo ==

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:Many thanks, BorgQueen, that's turned out well. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 19:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== and another one.... ==

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:Many thanks, Casliber! Don't think I've ever had two in the same update before. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 19:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== DYK: John Doreward ==

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==DYK==
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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --[[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 11:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

:Please change the statement on the main page, which is quite untrue. Two anonymous users changed "not" to "now" [it did and should read "it is NOT believed to be near the threshold for inclusion in the IUCN Red List (viz., the population is NOT thought to be fewer than ten thousand"], and the opposite ('now' instead of 'not') has been turned into a new last-minute hook. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

::Fixed. That was my mistake I'm afraid, I had to come up with a new hook because without the picture the proposed hook made no sense, but it seems I misread the source. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 15:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Ah, yes, I see the changes of "not" to "now" happened after "now" was live on the main page. But really, even with "now" corrected to "not", what's there isn't much good. "not less than 10,000 mature individuals" could be 100,000 individuals. We just don't know, because (as the article says) the population hasn't been quantified. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Well if you can suggest a quick alternative, I will replace it. However, you will have to be quick because I'm about to hit the sack. Otherwise, you will have to leave a note at mainpage errors or contact another active admin. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 15:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::*...that the '''[[Short-tailed Emerald]]''''s natural [[habitat]]s are moist lowland [[forest]]s and [[montane]]s and heavily degraded former forests in [[Colombia]], [[Peru]], and [[Venezuela]]? 16:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

::::::* I can't help thinking the fact that it is a hummingbird should be mentioned. How about "...that the natural [[habitat]] of the '''[[Short-tailed Emerald]]''', a [[South America]]n [[hummingbird]], are moist lowland [[forest]]s and [[montane]]s and heavily degraded former forests? [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 16:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::*Since you didn't get back to reply, I've gone with your hook. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 16:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

::::::::Anything at all on those lines is a big improvement. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 16:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::You wrote at 15:58 "Well if you can suggest a quick alternative, I will replace it. However, you will have to be quick because I'm about to hit the sack." However, I see you went on editing until 17:42. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 19:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Long Close School]] ==

Hi there, thanks for the message. I didnt mean to act hastily. As you say in the wikipedia guidelines under Indicators of probable notability: "In general... senior secondary schools are considered notable. 'Senior secondary schools' exclude middle schools and schools that do not educate to at least grade 9/age 15". Long Close School now educates children to age 16. It is the only independent school in the Slough Unitary authority to offer secondary education to age 16. I admit the article needs to be expanded which is why it is marked as a Stub, but i thought that these facts alone meant that the school can be deemed notable? Sorry again if ive done wrong but [[User:Triwbe|triwbe]] did state that i was free to edit the deletion tag o the article, but maybe my reasons on the edit were not clear enough? [[User:Bleaney|Bleaney]] ([[User talk:Bleaney|talk]]) 23:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

:Oh, dear. As I said on your Talk page, [[Wikipedia:Notability (schools)]] is now marked as a "failed proposal". It is ''not'' "the wikipedia guidelines", and the policy to look at is [[Wikipedia:Notability]]. Even if [[Wikipedia:Notability (schools)]] hadn't failed, I'm afraid you're quoting it selectively! Even the draft of it went on "...These schools are considered notable by virtue of such factors as notable alumni, community importance, notable athletic and scholastic successes. The amount of information from reliable secondary sources customarily available for such schools — based on news coverage of sports and academic awards, relative size, and importance to the community and region — are [''sic''] usually sufficient for verifiability." Notice "usually". So it would be appreciated if you could try to establish some notability in this article - and, indeed, in others you've started. Regards, [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 00:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

== DYK ==
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:Many thanks for updating me, RyRy! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

::No problem. If you ever need help with DYK, be my guest. :-) -- [[User:RyRy|<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy</font>]] ('''''[[User talk:RyRy|<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk</font>]]''''') 05:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Many thanks! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 09:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Wardens of New College ==

[http://www.archive.org/details/oxfordmen188018900fostuoft This archive source] might interest you... Regards, [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 21:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks, that's very useful. I know where I can find hard copies, at a pinch, but it's altogether better to have it there online. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 21:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

::I've just found 1715-1886 [http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/alumnio.htm here] - do you know of any more? [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 21:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

:::That archive site has lots of books on Oxford, but not Al.Ox, boo hiss. I haven't found an online source, but have copies in my [[Inner Temple|work]] library (if you need a reference, I'll see what I can do); the source you link above is a Dyfed-based-only extract, but it might help occasionally with my Jesus College work, thanks! [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 22:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Rugby suffix ==
*See [[User_talk:Jeff79#Rugby_players:_User:Londo06]]. --[[User:Jeff79|Jeff79]] ([[User talk:Jeff79|talk]]) 03:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
*That discussion is now at [[Talk:Paul Moriarty (rugby)#Requested move]]. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 05:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
**They're trying it again [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_league#Looking_to_bring_a_vote_on_disambiguated_players_who_have_played_both_codes|here]].--[[User:Jeff79|Jeff79]] ([[User talk:Jeff79|talk]]) 10:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

==Your edits to [[British India]]==
I've moved this discussion to [[Talk:British India]] - please add anything new there. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 15:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry mate. I dont think I can help you much there. There have been many discussions on the subject. And everytime we just end up in a vicious circle where same points are just repeated again and again. I will go through the discussions(when I will get time) and contribute there only if I have something new to say.:)--[[User:Viscious81|nids]][[User_talk:Viscious81|(&#9794;)]] 10:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

== Doug Stone ==

Regarding your comment in the pagemove request, I agree with your logic, but so far I've been unable to find any other Doug Stones that merit pages; if there were, they'd probably have been added to the dab already. We already have [[Douglas]] for other Dougs, and [[Stone (surname)]] for other Stones. It really doesn't look likely that there'll be a third Doug Stone who'll deserve a page, so I don't se a need for [[Doug Stone]] to be a dab since there are only two, and one seems more notable than the other. [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])</sup> 23:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

==dyk==
{| class="messagebox {{#ifeq:|yes|small|standard}}-talk"
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|[[Image:Updated DYK query.svg|15px|Updated DYK query]]
|On [[21 August]], [[2008]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with {{#if:|facts|a fact}} from the article{{#if:|s|}} '''''[[Spencer Barrett]]'''''{{#if:|{{#if:|, |, and}} '''''[[{{{4}}}]]'''''
}}{{#if:|{{#if:|, |, and}} '''''[[{{{5}}}]]'''''
}}{{#if:|, and '''''[[{{{6}}}]]'''''}}, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --[[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 17:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

:Many thanks, Victuallers! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 09:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== DYK ==

{| class="messagebox {{#ifeq:|yes|small|standard}}-talk"
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|[[Image:Updated DYK query.svg|15px|Updated DYK query]]
|On [[22 August]], [[2008]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with {{#if:|facts|a fact}} from the article{{#if:|s|}} '''''[[Gaisford Prize]]'''''{{#if:|{{#if:|, |, and}} '''''[[{{{4}}}]]'''''
}}{{#if:|{{#if:|, |, and}} '''''[[{{{5}}}]]'''''
}}{{#if:|, and '''''[[{{{6}}}]]'''''}}, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --Cheers, [[User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 07:40, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

:Many thanks, Casliber! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 09:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

==Masood Aslam==
hi
i wanted to know how you know mr. masood aslam?[[Special:Contributions/202.83.172.71|202.83.172.71]] ([[User talk:202.83.172.71|talk]]) 11:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:I don't know [[Masood Aslam]], my interest in him is as an [[:Category:Abdalians|Abdalian]]. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 11:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

==Well done==
{| class="messagebox {{#ifeq:|yes|small|standard}}-talk"
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|On [[25 August]], [[2008]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with {{#if:|facts|a fact}} from the article{{#if:|s|}} '''''[[Sir Thomas Chapman, 7th Baronet]]'''''{{#if:|{{#if:|, |, and}} '''''[[{{{4}}}]]'''''
}}{{#if:|{{#if:|, |, and}} '''''[[{{{5}}}]]'''''
}}{{#if:|, and '''''[[{{{6}}}]]'''''}}, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> -- Impressive production rate! Thanks [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 20:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:Many thanks, Victuallers! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 20:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Clio ==

Hi Xn4, I hope you don't mind me leaving you a message like this...
I always used to enjoy reading [[User:Clio_the_Muse|Clio]]'s posts on the [[Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities|Humanities Reference Desk]] - she could write a few paragraphs on some completely obscure aspect of European history in response to somebody's question and the way she wrote was quite incredible. Anyway, a couple of months ago they took away our internet priveleges at work and then I went to to Australia for a couple of weeks - over this time I was not able to access WP:RD like I always used to at work. When I came back from Australia and checked WP:RD/H I was surprised not to be able to find a single answer by Clio. I have checked her [[User_talk:Clio_the_Muse|Talk Page]] but can't work out exactly the reason she has left. It seems such a shame to not have us with us anymore, I just wanted to know what happened. I saw a few posts by you on her Talk Page so thought you might know. Thanks for your time, [[User:Jcrook1987|Joe]]<sup>[[User talk:Jcrook1987|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jcrook1987|Work]]</sub> 18:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:I happened by this page and noticed your note. ("Clio" in an edit summary will catch many eyes.) Clio has gone back to Real Life full time; there was no drama about her leaving. There were suggestions floating about that, after she marries this fall, she has her thesis to turn into a book and then plans to enter conservative politics. (You may find exactly what she wrote at the time in her archives, in [[User:Rockpocket]]'s archives, or by checking her contributons in her last 10 or so entries. She did say she might drop in from time to time, but if she has, I haven't seen any evidence of it. She used to be my late-night reading and I miss her comments sorely, too. If Xn4 knows more, he/she will likely add to this. [[User:Bielle|៛ Bielle]] ([[User talk:Bielle|talk]]) 19:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::All I can add here is that Clio really has taken on a very busy political life. I've archived her Talk page up to the day before the final chapter and I shan't be archiving any more. If you read from '''wotcha 2''' to the end, you'll get the picture. I share your sadness, but I also think there's a good chance Clio will be back one day. I'll bet she still looks at her Talk page from time to time, so it can only help if you decide to add to the 'come back soon' messages there. Regards, [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 09:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

::: Thanks, both of you, for your replies. I'm glad that the future is looking bright for her and hope we might still be lucky enough to see her around here from time to time. Xn4, I'll look over her talk archive and I must remember to leave her that note. :) --[[User:Jcrook1987|Joe]]<sup>[[User talk:Jcrook1987|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jcrook1987|Work]]</sub> 03:45, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Martin Rota]] ==

hi, could you take a look here [[Talk:Martin Rota]]? Thanks alot. [[User:Gryffindor|<font color="red">Gryffindor</font>]] 14:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for your note, Gryffindor, I've replied there. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 21:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== Your help finding sources on medieval English social history ==

Hello, Xn4! I'm sorry to say that I haven't seen much of you at the Reference Desk lately. (Could it be because, like me, you have seen a decline in the quality of the questions over the summer?) Anyway, on the Humanities Desk, I have asked for help finding sources on the social and economic history of England in the high middle ages. I would be very grateful for any help that you could offer, either here or at the Humanities Desk. Thank you! [[User:Marco polo|Marco polo]] ([[User talk:Marco polo|talk]]) 13:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

==Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice==
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== [[Iole]] ==

Your input would be appreciated on this article. Thanks. --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 19:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
The article was nominated for GA. There was a review and I have done several improvements to the article based on the suggestions. Perhaps you have some additional ideas. --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 20:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:Iole is up for a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Iole/GA2 second review] as a GA. It is currently on hold for 7 days for the issues mentioned. I have tried to address the issues and copyedited accordingly. If you have time, could you look it over to see if you can make additional improvements. Thanks.--[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 19:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

==Thanks/British India==
Thanks for correcting the misplaced DYK tag!

Please also reply to Philip Baird Shearer's latest post (21:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)) on the [[Talk:British Raj]] page. [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 12:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
==British Raj/British India==
Hello Xn4, I noticed you have been editing and have had quite a lot of debate on British India and British Raj. I have not really taken part in that. You will have noticed that Fowler has a long and credible history in WP:India, even though he allowes his emotions to seep through a lot of times. I wanted to say, first of all qudos for keeping your cool, and secondly, without asking you to take it lying down, if you can please do allow for some leeway. Nonetheless, although I am not sure what the arguments either of you are basing your work on, allow me to say keep up the good work.[[::User: rueben_lys| rueben_lys]]&nbsp;([[::User talk: rueben_lys|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[::Special:Contributions/ rueben_lys|contribs]]) 22:18, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, also well done on keeping your cool, and I've reverted British India to the article you were working on. While I agree the article is justified, please see my comments about the need for more well-sourced material there. Clearly, the editors at British Raj fear it will merely duplicate their own work, and I think they would be glad to see it standing more on its own two feet. [[User:Strawless|Strawless]] ([[User talk:Strawless|talk]]) 15:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== Response by user Valentine Stockdale ==

Hi there,

Thanks for your message. I should confirm firstly that I am Valentine Stockdale.

I have read the page you suggested outlining conflicts of interest but am unsure as to whether there is a conflict here.

Please let me know what you would like to do.

I hope very much however that you decide to keep the page.

[[User:ValentineStockdale|ValentineStockdale]] ([[User talk:ValentineStockdale|talk]]) 12:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

:I'm sorry, Valentine, I wanted to draw your attention to [[Wikipedia:Autobiography]]. The question of whether to keep [[Valentine Stockdale]] is a matter for [[WP:Notability]], and I don't see a problem with it myself, but if I were you I should let other editors improve the article in mainspace, and your user page might be better not mirroring that.
:I'm still puzzled by "...the grandson of Sir Edmund Villiers Minshull Stockdale, 1st Battalion", which I've corrected at [[Valentine Stockdale]] (but not at [[User:ValentineStockdale]]) to "...1st Baronet". It seemed to me that if the writer didn't know what "1st Bt" stood for after a name, it looked very like someone trying to write what seemed to be an autobiography, but actually wasn't, if you see what I mean. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 21:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for your message. I have removed the content of my user page as you suggested. I have also read the autobiography article and fully understand it. I'm pretty sure the article conforms appropriately with the autobiography guidelines as all the information contained in it is accurate and verifiable, and the article contains none of the potentially unbalanced content outlined in the guidelines such as aspirations, opinions and so forth. I would be very happy to submit the document to the department you suggested for editing but am unsure about how to go about it. Lastly Battalion-Baronet was my mistake and thank you for setting the record straight! All the best, Valentine.

[[User:ValentineStockdale|ValentineStockdale]] ([[User talk:ValentineStockdale|talk]]) 12:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


== [[Ted Peate]] ==

Thanks for your recent edits to the article on the man whom [[Frederick Spofforth]], [[Billy Murdoch]] and I regard as the greatest left-arm spinner of all-time. At any rate, he deserves far more attention than history has accorded. How, may I ask, did you come to take an interest in him? Best, [[User:Robertson-Glasgow|Crusoe]] ([[User talk:Robertson-Glasgow|talk]]) 22:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

:Hi, Crusoe. Oh, that's easy to answer. I started an article on ''[[The Sporting Times]]'' and worked up a section of it on the 1882 reports of the death of English cricket. After linking Peate in "ITS END WAS [[Ted Peate|PEATE]]", I thought a little more at [[Ted Peate]] was justified. Regards, [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 22:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

== British Raj ==

I really don't know how to help you for British India. Fowler and Fowler seems to have no other useful work other than typing massive one-sided arguments for Wikipedia. I was appallingly shocked by the length of his arguments. I think it was very wrong of him to create dob page for British India and redirect contents to somewhere else, without seeking scholarly opinion or majority opinion. I strongly believe his deletions and edits should be reverted. But as I am in traineeship now, I have very little time for WP. [[User:Magicalsaumy|Cygnus_hansa]] ([[User talk:Magicalsaumy|talk]]) 15:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

:You are taking my comment out of context. I do not think that User:Fowler&fowler is threatening anyone, as we need to resolve this issue, when he suggests going to formal Wikipedia mediation. A valid reason for not wanting to use the formal Wikipedia mediation is that it is time consuming.

:The best way to win an argument on Wikipedia is to present one that fulfils the requirements of the three content policies ([[WP:NOR]] [[WP:NPOV]] [[WP:V]]. To date IMHO you have not produced sources that back up your assertion that British India is sufficiently different from British Raj to justify another article. As there have been three Requested moves that rejected the move of British Raj to British India, I think it is up to you to justify a move away from the ''[[status quo]]''. To date you have gingered up the debate so that the majority of editors do not think that British India is a synonym for British Raj, but that it is also used in some reliable sources to mean company rule (hence the argument for a disambiguation page). For example you made the statement "That's quite a complicated edit, which I stand by. Calcutta became the capital of British India and also of the Indian Empire." what are your sources that clearly differentiate between British India and the Indian Empire? It has clearly been shown by F&f using sources that the term can mean rule by the British in India, the territory and the British (lifestyle) in India. If you think that the predominant use of the term "British India" means territory under direct British rule, then why not suggest that the article [[Provinces of India]] be moved to British India?

:You do not need to answer these questions directly, but they are meant to be an indicator of the sort of arguments you need to present in the RfC if you are going to persuade people who follow RfC debates and probably until they read the debate do not know that there were regions in India that were never under direct British rule, that a separate article on British India should exist.

:From the statements that F&f has made it is clear the (s)he is frustrated by your predilection to make bold edits even after (s)he made it clear that (s)he wished to discuss them with you and others. That you made bold edits rather than discussing them and gaining consensus on the talk pages first was understandable before a comment was placed on the talk page, but from the moment F&f placed [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABritish_Raj&diff=232949137&oldid=232581264 this comment] on the [[Talk:British Raj|talk page]] of the [[British Raj]] article at 18:11 on 19 August 2008, you should have discussed the changes on the talk pages that involved his/her concerns and gain a consensus before making them. This is described in [[WP:CONSENSUS]] and because you have not been following the spirit of this policy with edits such as that you made to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Delhi&diff=prev&oldid=234218724 Delhi] article on 25 August 2008. For this reason I am willing to give F&f the some slack in the way (s)he presents his arguments but if in my judgement (s)he stray too far into a breach of [[WP:CIVIL]] I will reprimand F&f because we are meant to be working towards a consensus which is made more difficult if the parties to discussion feel intimidated or that the other is editing articles in bad faith. --[[User:Philip Baird Shearer|Philip Baird Shearer]] ([[User talk:Philip Baird Shearer|talk]]) 10:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== The Huntarian Society ==

Hi there. I have looked at the article and I can't for the life of me remember the page, but you're right, it isn't a copyright violation. It may have been at the time it was deleted, but it isn't now, so I'll restore it right away. Sorry for any misunderstanding, and for not replying to your original message. I've been offline since Thursday, with only a few sporadic edits here and there and I didn't see it. Again, my apologies. Happy editing, [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 06:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:Please be aware though that [[User:CorenSearchBot]] may tag it again because there are a few similarities to http://www.hunteriansociety.org.uk [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 06:28, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== King's School, Ely ==


Hi there,

The page [[King's School, Ely]] has been up for Good article nomination for a while. You are welcome to take a look, recommend or make any changes, or review the nomination. Many thanks! [[User:Rocketman89|rocketman89]] ([[User talk:Rocketman89|talk]]) 17:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

==TGB==
Where have you disappeared to? I'm struggling with some details on [[Thomas Graham Brown]] and your help would be – as ever – invaluable ... Regards, [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] ([[User talk:Ericoides|talk]]) 10:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

:I'm sorry to be so absent, Ericoides, but I'm travelling in France with only limited internet access. However, I should be back at my desk by mid-November. regards, [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 13:17, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

::Ah. Well, I trust you are having a rewarding tour. Regards, [[User:Ericoides|Ericoides]] ([[User talk:Ericoides|talk]]) 17:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

==Image:Lord Williams de Thame.jpg==

Did you take this photo yourself or did it come from another website?[[User:Geni|Geni]] 04:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Alumni Oxon ==

Further to our previous discussion, see [http://www.archive.org/details/alumnioxoniense00fostgoog here] for the 1500-1714 version. Hooray! (Well, partial hooray: vol 4 only, S-Z...) [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 15:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

==Nichalp's comments==
Would you like to comment [[Talk:British_India#View_by_Nichalp|here]]? Thanks. [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 16:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Alumni/ pupils ==

Problems with rather surreptitiously emptying [[:Category:Alumni of Wath Comprehensive School]] and moving its contents to [[:Category:Former pupils of Wath Comprehensive School]] are (a) it looks like you are bypassing cfd; (b) secondary school pupils are called students these days; (c) nearly all the non-UK categories use alumni, as do all the UK university cats. (A major problem with using cfd is that the cat would probably be deleted rather than renamed.) [[User:Occuli|Occuli]] ([[User talk:Occuli|talk]]) 02:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

:Not exactly surreptitious, Occuli! But thanks for your message. You may be right that 'pupils' is old-fashioned, but these UK school categories face repeated (and unsuccessful) efforts from outside the UK to impose the word ''alumni'' on them, which is hardly used at all by UK schools, although it ''is'' now used by UK universities. We need to find some consistency, and most of the recent new cats which are not on the ''Old Erewhonians'' principle have used 'Former pupils of...'. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 02:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==Louisa Maria Teresa Stuart==
I sent BD to RfD and I thought I had stooped by bot but... I hadn't and in some articles it substituted the template including the RfD tag. :) Everything is ok now. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 23:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, now I understand. Many thanks for your reply, which reassures me! [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 23:29, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

== George Whitehead ==

Well done and thankyou.

Can you help me? I feel a bit thick; that's why I ask.
Clifton College have an Old Cliftonians page- different from the one you edited. How on earth do I add names in their alphebetical order.
What's your connection with Whitehead?[[Special:Contributions/81.158.54.27|81.158.54.27]] ([[User talk:81.158.54.27|talk]]) 02:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:Answer is on [[User talk:81.158.54.27|your page]]. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 02:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== OC list ==

What's your connection with Clifton?
None?
There are at least 30 0r 40 OC's in Wiki without who aren't in the Categories section.
Sir John May
Bourne-Arton MP
Basil Allen etc.

Following your advice, I am going to try to place them in the Categories page. Thanks for all your help.
By the way I was at the School and have gleaned much of his info from Obituaries in the Old Cliftonian chronicle.[[Special:Contributions/81.158.54.27|81.158.54.27]] ([[User talk:81.158.54.27|talk]]) 02:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:Feel free to add them! Not quite 'none', but I was at another school myself. [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 02:59, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== William Hayter ==

Thanks for your help. [[User:Millbanks|Millbanks]] ([[User talk:Millbanks|talk]]) 07:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

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