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<h2>Executive summary</h2>
If this is the first time you've seen this page, you probably don't know what we mean by "neutral point of view."
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A general purpose encyclopedia is a collection of synthesized knowledge presented from a neutral point of view. To whatever extent possible, encyclopedic writing should steer clear of taking any particular stance '''other than''' the stance of the neutral point of view.


The neutral point of view attempts to present ideas and facts in such a fashion that both supporters and opponents can agree. Of course, 100% agreement is not possible; there are ideologues in the world who will not concede to any presentation other than a forceful statement of their own point of view. We can only seek a type of writing that is agreeable to essentially rational people who may differ on particular points.


Some examples may help to drive home the point I am trying to make.


Wikipedia has an important policy: roughly stated, you should write
1. An encyclopedic article should not argue that corporations are criminals, even if the author believes it to be so. It should instead present the fact that ''some people'' believe it, and what their reasons are, and then as well it should present what the other side says.


articles without bias, representing all views fairly. Wikipedia uses the
2. An encyclopedia article should not argue that laissez-faire capitalism is the best social system. (I happen to believe this, by the way.) It should instead present the arguments of the advocates of that point of view, and the arguments of the people who disagree with that point of view.


words "bias" and "neutral" in a special sense! This ''doesn't'' mean that
Perhaps the easiest way to make your writing more encyclopedic, is to write about ''what people believe'', rather than ''what is so''. If this strikes you as somehow subjectivist or collectivist or imperialist, then ask me about it, because I think that you are just mistaken. What people believe is a matter of objective fact, and we can present ''that'' quite easily from the neutral point of view. --[[Jimbo Wales]]
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<h3>General Discussion</h3>


it's possible to write an article from ''just one'' point of view, ''the''
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If you don't think a view is valid, i.e. you don't think any credible person holds that view, feel free to simply delete it, and demand that the person who added those words to the article prove to you that credible people hold that view. The burden of proof is always on the other person. This is known as "Taw's corollary to NPOV", and applies to any statement like "some people believe X".
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neutral (unbiased, "objective") point of view. That's a common
I find the above comment quite upsetting. Its position in the document causes others' statements to be easily misread and it is quite plainly an attempt to make a specific person look absurd. -- [[Taral]]


''misunderstanding'' of the Wikipedia policy. The Wikipedia policy is that
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we should ''fairly represent'' all sides of a dispute, and not make an
Of course, I agree. For more in the same vein, see [http://www.nupedia.com/policy.shtml#nonbias Nupedia's policy statement]: VI.A.ii. LACK OF BIAS.


article state, imply, or insinuate that any one side is correct. It's
It's important to realize that when we use the phrase "the neutral point of view," we don't mean ''a single'' view that is somehow intermediate among various competing views. That is, we aren't looking at views A, B, and C, and trying to write from some one "neutral point of view," D, that is intermediate between A, B, and C. Rather, we are trying to fairly represent A, B, and C, without asserting any one of them as being correct. Perhaps instead of saying "write from a neutral point of view," we should say, "write so that various competing views are ''all'' sympathetically represented (including their views ''about each other''), and no one (controversial) viewpoint is asserted in the article as definitely the correct one." But this is too long... --[[Larry Sanger]]
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I'm uncomfortable with some articles making assumptions based on a USA/N American point of view. If possible I try to qualify information with stuff like "In America..." or something like that. Maybe whiney, but on the internet I don't think it should be assumed that the audience is American... -AD. (see [[dessert]] for listings of western european desserts. Gonna qualify that one sooner or later.)
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Hear, hear. --[[LMS]]


crucial that we work ''together'' to make articles unbiased. It's one of
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Some discussion betweem Mark and Larry moved to [[Mark Christensen/Neutrality problems]]. But once some agreement is reached I'll post something back here. --[[Mark Christensen]]
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One problem I have with Neutral Point of View, is where to do it. To go to the example of evolution and creation: The page on [[Creationism]] should certainly keep the neutral point of view, neither embracing nor rejecting creationism. But what about other pages where evolution is discussed? If we want to steer 'clear of any particular stance', my article on [[Gigantopithecus]] should also contain a statement that its relationship with other apes is 'believed by evolutionists' or such. But do we really want creationism cropping up in half of all articles on biology?


the things that makes Wikipedia work so well. Writing unbiased text is an
My own opinion is that this is going too far. Thus, I would like to change the requirements regarding neutral point of view to:


art that requires practice. The following essay explains this policy in
* Things that are regarded as true by the great majority of relevant mainstream scientists, may be stated as true. Things that are regarded as probably true by the great majority of relevant mainstream scientists, may be stated as 'believed to be true'.
* In the cases mentioned above, alternative points of view need not be given, however if they are given, this should be done using the normal rules of neutral point of view.


depth, and is the result of much discussion. We strongly encourage you to
Does anyone have remarks on this? -- [[Andre Engels]]


read and edit it.
I agree that evolution is largely accepted, and I also think it is correct, but there is a lot to be said in criticism of the theory too. Why is it inappropriate to mention these criticisms in an article on [[Gigantopithecus]]? I think the answer is because the points address a larger issue. They should be on a page talking about that larger issue. On the other hand if some aspect of [[Gigantopithecus]] is specifically relevent to creationism then it can/should be mentioned.
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<h3>Discussion: How should we deal with [[pseudoscience]]?</h3>


I have one minor clarification that I would add: I don't think the practice of including other points of view implies that an article should treat them equally. In reporting things like [[pseudoscience]], for example, I think it is within the obligation of an encyclopedia to emphasize the lack of scientific basis for some beliefs, and to clearly state that belief in such things is not justified by apparent facts.
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''Invariably, inclusion of different points of view or even different factual events may unbalance an encyclopedia entry.''
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A clear mention of lack of scientific basis ''without additional emphasis'' is adequate to place anomolous or pseudoscientific positions in context. Science is not the be-all and end-all of human inquiry, and its supposed infallibility has at times delayed recognition of valid observations or procedures because they were "unscientific." Medicine is famous for this. Chiropractic, herbal medicine, acupuncture, chelation therapy, etc. have all been quackery until science discovered why they worked. What remains unconfirmed by science deserves such a mention -- a reader should not be confused that physical confirmation has been demonstrated when it has not. But it is not necessary to exhibit antagonism for these ideas beyond that.
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Every now and then a crackpot's speculation turns out to be right--that doesn't mean that we shouldn't call it speculation. Chiropractic, herbal medicine, accupuncture, and chelation are all still quackery in most cases, and we should not shirk from saying so, except in those few instances where they have been studied scientifically for specific things. Chelation to treat heavy-metal poisoning, for example, or drugs derived from certain herbs. "Science" as I use the term here is just methodical honesty. Once you have honestly and properly tested something and evaluated the results, you can say that it has some reasonable basis. But when something has been tested repeatedly and failed continued belief in that thing is not merely an "alternative" point of view--it's clearly wrong and dangerous. --[[Lee Daniel Crocker]]
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You and I clearly differ on this. "Once you have honestly and properly tested something and evaluated the results, you can say that it has some reasonable basis." Those you call quacks and crackpots will aver that they have done just as you suggest. Granted, they may rely wholly on what they perceive as empirical "evidence," but most will not admit to a moment's dishonesty with regard to their researches, even to themselves. Neither, by the way, will most research scientists, even when they claim proofs which are later proven false.


<i>Relying on testimonials is inherently willfully dishonest, because we have known about the placebo affect for years and have proven it beyond a shadow of any doubt. To continue to cling to testimonials after knowing about the placebo affect, and knowing that placebo-controlled studies of something have failed, is negligent. Yes, many traditional scientists also have egos and can deceive themselves. That's why real journals have peer review. What I'm saying here is that Wikipedia articles should act as peer review, and clearly identify such deception when we see it.</i>


<h2>Introduction: the basic concept of neutrality and why Wikipedia must be
You can claim something "has been repeatedly tested and failed" but should put that claim in context - ie, it "has been repeatedly tested" with available methods, which is not to say that available methods are infallible. A little humility goes a long way. It is the most valuable quality for an experimental scientist to possess, in my view. "We are SCIENCE and we declare that assertion to be PURE BUNK," holds no water with me. "I tested it with every method which seemed reasonable to me and I cannot verify your assertion" is honest and says all that needs to be said.


unbiased</h2>
So - in your articles you will openly declare things hokum and bunk. I will call them unverified. And we will be free to tinker with each other's articles. And in some future age, we will all know who was on the right side of which of today's contentious questions.


<i>"Unverified" is fine if that's the case; other things have been tested and failed, and that's different. And article should point out such failures.</i>


I will go ahead and beat this to death: Let's look at my re-treatment of [[Numerology]]. I said generally "numerologist believe..." and noted that independent verfication of these beliefs is lacking. I went a step further and mentioned what I see as a nearly insuperable fallacy in the belief in the validity of numerology as it applies to the names of things (unrelated numerlogic values in different languages for the same exact thing) and mentioned this as a question which remains unexplained. In my mind, that fallacy may be just about adequate to invalidate the entire field. Numerologists will differ. It is not my job to tell them they are full of it. Let reasonable people look at it objectively and draw their own conclusions.


A key [[Wikipedia]] policy is that
<i>I have no problem with that article. It's exactly what I'm talking about. What I'm warning against is the treatment of such "alternative" ideas on an equal basis with verified ones. That article clearly states the case that the belief is unfounded, and that's good.</i>


articles should be "unbiased," or written from a "neutral point of view."
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Ah, well - in that case, we are in agreement as to how to couch these things. Larry asserted early, and I think we all agreed, that "neutral" handling of unproven claims would uniformly include revelation of their lack of proven foundation.
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I would like to add one subrule:


We use these terms in a precise way that is different from the common
:If following NeutralPointOfView would make *single* reader believe that some utter bullshit is as legitimate as other theories about the same subject, then forget about NeutralPointOfView for a moment.


understanding. It's crucial to grasp what it means to be neutral (in this


sense)--a careful reading of this page will help.
The most obvious cases are all science vs. religious fanatism debates,
like creationism vs. evolutionism, where the only point of presenting religious pov
is for saying that there are people who believe that, not that it might be true. --[[Taw]]
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I could not disagree more strongly. I'm sorry, but you are not the final arbiter of what is and is not utter bullshit. See [[Creationism/Talk]] for further debate about your view. --[[LMS]]
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I've been getting a vaguely uneasy feeling about NeutralPointOfView, slowly over the last month or so. I starting to get the feeling that after the most energetic and best known editors and commentators go over something, it emerges with a slight bias towards a white, middle class, slightly right of centre, USA view of the world. The bias is not all that strong, and it's probably not deliberate, but it's definitely there. At its worst, we see this bias being presented as NeutralPointOfView rather than as a bias.


:An example or two would help; without examples, what you say is very difficult to evaluate. I firmly believe that where bias can be spotted, it can be eliminated. This is not done by adjusting the standpoint of a ''single'' neutral point of view, but by making sure that various competing views are stated fairly. (Well, of course there's more to it than that.)


:I am glad that we are not debating the desirability of writing from the neutral point of view, and instead that we're debating how well we're succeeding in fulfilling an ideal. --(indented comments by [[LMS]])


Basically, to write without bias (from a neutral point of view) is to write
Minority views on a subject that are popular in this population segment demand to get equal representation, even if the entire rest of the world thinks the particular view in question makes about as much sense as the flat earth theory. Non-USA authors who might not even know that there are educated people (in the USA, usually not elsewhere) with a particular view sometimes get strongly rebuked for not giving that view equal time.


so that articles do not advocate any specific points of view; instead, the
:I suspect a lot of the bias you detect is a function of the fact that a lot of people from the U.S. are writing here, which is understandable since such a large proportion of people online are from the U.S., and because the website is under management by Americans. Consequently, because the Americans are often not so familiar with European views on things--and, in my experience, vice-versa--European views sometimes are not represented well enough. I agree completely that this is a problem and that, where it occurs anyway (again, examples would be nice), it has a tendency to make the articles biased. Representing a minority view as it were ''as'' a majority view, ''simply by giving it more attention,'' is a kind of bias. I agree.


different viewpoints in a controversy are ''all described fairly.'' This is
:The solution is to find more Europeans and non-Americans to participate. It is very important to me, at least, that we make this a ''completely'' international project. That has been my vision with Nupedia from the beginning and it carries over here to Wikipedia, at least as far as I am concerned. This is one reason why we were quick to set up the [[International Wikipedia]]s--and, regardless of how much participation those other wikis receive, I still think the English language Wikipedia should not be limited only to those topics and those viewpoints which characterize English speakers.


a simplistic definition and we'll add nuance later. But for now, we can say
Views that don't sit well with this population segment are subtlely discouraged (or not so subtlely if they are not worded carefully enough). This is even true where almost everyone who has studied the area agrees that the average educated but not expert in this area American has got it totally wrong.


just that to write articles without bias is to try to ''describe'' debates
:Again, this is a result of the fact that there are a lot of American Internet users online. A lot of Internet users generally, but especially Americans, are libertarian--what Europeans call "liberal" (Americans should call them that too, but nevermind). Hence, when leftist-biased or religion-based conservative-biased articles are spotted, they are summarily pounced upon. And ''they should be.'' Immediately. Why? Not because they are leftist or religious conservative views--but because ''they are biased.''


''rather than'' taking one definite stand.
:In my experience here I have sometimes seen articles which I myself thought were far too much biased in a libertarian direction; I have tried to do my best to balance the views and remove the appearance that the article is actually advocating libertarian views.


Ideas that are insulting in some way to the USA seem to get very hostile responses.


:Well, should an encyclopedia have insults to nationalities? Or is this permitted only for the U.S.A.? Anti-Americanism is, frankly, rife all over the world. As an American who has travelled to many foreign lands and lived for months in two of them, I can tell you that very many of these biases are based on idiotic misconceptions--just as many prejudices, generally, are. If anything, anti-Americanism has been getting worse in recent years. As long as I'm here, I'm going to speak out loudly against all sorts of prejudice--even prejudice against Americans. I hope you can live with that. It simply won't be tolerated.


Why should Wikipedia be unbiased?
Unfortunately there are a lot of ideas that are insulting to the USA that might be true, or at least have a little bit of supporting evidence and are important enough to be at mentioned in an encyclopedia. I guess non-USA authors should figure out how to present these things more diplomatically, and USA authors should cool off a bit and consider them rationally.


:I agree with this analysis. I think it's important to find a way to report important facts, including facts that are very embarrassing to various nationalities and races, without seeming to insult persons of those nationalities and races. This is difficult, but I am confident that it can be done.


I think the non-USA wikipedia authors are reluctant to put their views on things as strongly as some of the most visible USA authors (although occasionally we do see this happen). Certainly after being "corrected", hardly any non-USA author will go in and start an editing war in the article. They might complain a little in Talk.


Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia, which means it is a representation of
:Examples, again, would help: what articles have you, for example, felt uncomfortable editing?


human knowledge at some level of generality. But we (humans) disagree about
:I think there's definitely something wrong with a situation where someone feels uncomfortable adding information to Wikipedia. If, at present, there are more American libertarians than European leftists on board--''for example'' :-) --then it's predictable enough that the European leftists will feel "under the gun" when adding information that the American libertarians might immediately spot as biased. In this situation, I think it wouldn't do much good to try to blame the libertarians for acting poorly. We shouldn't ''discourage'' people from removing bias. It would be better to encourage the leftists to say (repeatedly, if necessary): "Look, there is a ''perfectly legitimate,'' common leftist point of view that is omitted from this article. For the article to give all relevant information about this subject, this view needs to be stated clearly and sympathetically. I'm going to try to put it into the article in a way that seems fair to me. I can understand if it is edited so that it does not appear to be a view that is ''asserted'' by the article, or ''presented as true.'' But as long as it ''is'' clear that it's just one view about the subject, then please, please, don't try to remove the ''force'' of the arguments presented. That really wouldn't be fair."


specific cases; for any topic on which there are competing views, each view
:Feel free to quote the above as much as you need to. :-) It's a very legitimate sort of concern, I think.


represents a different theory of what the truth is, and insofar as that view
I don't think we have much deliberate propaganda production here, at least not among the more prolific contributors. It's more a matter of people from one place not realising people from another place honestly disagree, and often with some evidence on their side. This is made worse with people from the USA because most in the USA believe they have no censorship there and therefore anything they haven't heard of can't be true. I'm not sure if there really is censorship in the USA, but certainly, one way or another, there is a lot of really important stuff that is well known elsewhere, but fairly hard for ordinary people in the USA to find out about.


contradicts other views, its adherents believe that the other views are
:Examples would help. If anyone actually has removed honest disagreements supported with evidence from any articles, I would agree that that is a really serious problem. (I would not, however, make any facile, ignorant generalizations about "censorship" in the United States. That would be pointless. Let's just talk about the problem itself.)


false, and therefore not ''knowledge''. Indeed, Wikipedia, there are many
The rest of us know we have censorship, and are a bit more ready to believe that our governments and news media might have been lying to us about something important.


opinionated people who often disagree with each other. Where there is
:For the record, you would be surprised at the number of Americans who believe their government and news media lie and leave out important information every day. That's why talk radio and alternative news services online are popular here. However, I think most Americans deny that this is properly called ''censorship.'' I'd call it bad and biased reporting. --[[LMS]] (end of comments)


disagreement about what is true, there's disagreement about what constitutes
I guess what i'm getting at with all this, is, try not to get a "I'm neutral therefore i'm right and anyone who disagrees is a dishonest commie bastard" attitude going.
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:I think you should point to concrete examples so that we can evalutate your claims ourselves. Right now, you paint a somewhat foggy picture of underlying bias which I do not find confirmed.


knowledge. Wikipedia works because it's a collaborative effort; but, whilst
:I agree with you that certain outsider positions are almost non-existant outside of the US (gun rights, creationism). These positions should still be mentioned, and it also needs to be pointed out that they are geographically limited. --AxelBoldt


collaborating, how can we solve the problem of endless "edit wars" in which
:I don't have any specific examples to point to either, but I've had the same feeling as the anonymous writer of the long entry above, without being able to pinpoint exactly what was wrong. Perhaps the paragraph in brackets on the [[Creationism]] page can work as an example.


one person asserts that ''p,'' whereupon the next person changes the text so
:The problem is that we need to find a [[NeutralPointOfView]] that is neutral not just in the [[US]], but internationally. US writers on Wikipedia are (or will be, soon) a minority. --[[Pinkunicorn]]


that it asserts that ''not-p''?


Maybe you understand the following perfectly well--but it can't hurt to say it one more time. As far as we on Wikipedia are concerned, to speak of a lack of bias, or of neutral writing, is not to speak of ''a single viewpoint'' that is expressed in an article. The neutral point of view, as conceived by myself and Jimbo and many others, is not ''the'' view from nowhere. It is not "the truth," enunciated from "a neutral standpoint." In an encyclopedia at least, that's a silly fantasy and a total misunderstanding of what unbiased writing is like. Instead, where there is disagreement on a topic, one takes a step back to ''characterize the controversy''--rather than to as it were ''engage directly in'' the controversy by taking a position, or by trying to find some bogus "middle" position that is the official view of the encyclopedia. Therefore, the notion of a neutral point of view that is "neutral in the U.S." really makes no sense. (Maybe you realize this, though, and you're just accusing ''some Americans'' of having this misunderstanding.)


I just want us all to be aware that we are not debating here about ''how'' Wikipedia is going to be biased. (Should we push it leftward or rightward or liberty-ward? That's the wrong question.) Our only official bias is that such a thing as a neutral point of view can exist. --[[LMS]]


A solution is that we accept, for purposes of working on Wikipedia, that
:On occasion I've posted something and then noticed in "Recent Changes" that someone else edited it "to remove North American" bias or somesuch. Personally, I enjoy this; I know I'm a [[US]] citizen, I know I'm biased, but the only way I know what's a bias and what isn't is, sometimes, if someone calls me on it. That's a valuable part of Wikipedia, and not something I expected when I first tripped onto it. I agree that there's probably no such thing as a truly neutral POV; but it's good to learn where our biases are. --[[RjLesch]]


"human knowledge" includes ''all different'' (significant, published)
[[RjLesch]], those latter comments can be addressed to you. We aren't talking about writing from ''a'' POV. We are talking about how to fairly represent various competing points of view. That ideal is what we call (confusingly) "the neutral point of view." In yet other words, we aren't looking at views A, B, and C, and trying to write from some "neutral POV," D, that is intermediate between A, B, and C. Rather, we are trying to fairly represent A, B, and C, without asserting any one of them as being correct. This is what being unbiased ''means.'' --LMS


theories on all different topics. So we're committed to the goal of
:I think I understand that. The point I was trying, fumblingly perhaps, to make, is that sometimes we don't know what our biases are until we put them out there and someone points them out. Also, that if someone says "this is a bias", that's an opportunity for me to learn rather than to take offense. -- [[RjLesch]]


representing human knowledge in ''that'' sense. Something like this is
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surely a well-established sense of the word "knowledge"; in this sense, what
If I can continue the debate here, the trouble with the above is that the <i>range</i> of mainstream or even out-there viewpoints on certain issues differs from country to country, and the majority view certainly does. The problem you occasionally see on Wikipedia (and, again, I wish I had a good example to point to) is that the range of viewpoints in America is A, B, and C, and A being the predominant one and stated as such, whereas in, say, Australia, the range is viewpoints B, C, and D and C is the predominant one. To take an example, compare the parameters of the drugs debates in the US and in parts of Europe. So, even if you are careful to state all the viewpoints you are familiar with and give them credence and airtime approximately proportional to their support in the relevant communities (on political issues, the general populace, say) if you write from a US perspective you can easily come across as hopelessly biased to a non-US reader.


is "known" has changes constantly with the passage of time, and when we use
People writing from a non-US base are less afflicted with this problem because, they are far more likely to be exposed to foriegn perspectives on issues, but they may not get an accurate picture of true US opinion (the foriegn view of the US seems to be filtered through the prisms of New York and Los Angeles).


the word "know" in the sense, we often use so-called scare quotes. In the
I'm not trying to flame Americans here - some of my best friends are Americans :) But please be aware that even if you try to present all the perspectives on an issue you're familiar with from the NPOV, it still might not be neutral from the perspective of somebody across the pond. -- [[Robert Merkel]]


Middle Ages, we "knew" that the Earth was flat. We now "know" otherwise.
The range problem is easy to fix, though, if someone aware of the other POVs comes across it - at least much easier to fix than an article structured around a particular view or with it insidiously ingrained into the language. Remember, this is a wiki; we should all strive to be as neutral as possible, but failures can still be corrected. --[[Josh Grosse]]


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<b> Dealing with Americo-centricity</b>
In reading articles, I have noticed a bias of several writers to presume the 'American' viewpoint is the only one. This was addressed earlier on contentious issues such as drug-control and anti-abortion, but it can turn up in the most innocuous of places.


I would cite the series of articles on [[English]]. The starting point of this group of articles is that there is [[American English]] and [[International English]] (ie, those variants which are not American). Oh really?? I suspect there are an awful lot of English linguisticians who would dispute this. Australian English is as etymologically distinct from British English as American English is, and Singlish (Singaporean English) is so unique as to be almost unrecognisable to anyone who first encounters it. Yet these have all been rolled together under one heading, solely on the basis that they are not American.


We could sum up human knowledge (in this sense) in a biased way: we'd state
A neutral point of view would contend that there is [[English]] and within that language are several recognised variations, such as American, British, Australian, Afrikaaner, Canadian, Singlish, etc. The fact that American English dominates the IT industry is a fair and valid comment, and should be included. But to present 'American' and 'non-American' is extremely biased.


a series of theories about topic T, and then claim that the truth about T is
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The English language entries are currently the subject of much debate. See their [[International English/Talk]] pages. --rmhermen (9/27/01)


such-and-such. But again, consider that Wikipedia is an international,
And this was the view of an Englishman, namely myself. No American bias was intended and it is probably a good example of bias being perceived in article, possibly by projection. My work on those articles has been halted and so my plans to make references to Singlese and local reactions against it have been indefinitely delayed. -- Artistotle
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collaborative project. Probably, as we grow, nearly every view on every
'''Geographical Bias''' It is very easy to talk about an event occurring in the "Summer of 1981". But unfortunately that is not a meaningful phrase in a global resource (EG: In the southern hemisphere, Christmas is a summer holiday). Please use actual month names, or when context demands it phrase your statement as "public opinion changed over the (northern) summer of 1968." - [[ManningBartlett]]


subject will (eventually) be found among our authors and readership. To
:I also think context is going to help quite often. E.g., if we're talking about Alaska, for instance, and I say that the Good Friday Earthquake in Anchorage happened in spring in 1964, nobody is going to misunderstand what I mean. :-) --[[LMS]]
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Suggestion: Never delete info giving the reason "this is against Neutral point of view." If it is against NPOV, then something must be done, but deleting the info is not it. Alternatives include
* Fix it so the info is still there, but couched in more neutral terms. This is the best thing if you know the topic well enough.
* Leave a note inside the text suggesting someone fix it.
* Leave a note in the corresponding /Talk page suggesting someone fix it.
-- Geronimo Jones


avoid endless edit wars, we can agree to present each of these views
:Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree here. Whilst I don't delete stuff just for the hell of it, if something is just a statement of opinion which provides no useful information on the topic, I believe it should be removed. In this case, I shift the deleted text to the talk page so people can see why I've done so. --[[Robert Merkel]]


fairly, and not make our articles assert any one of them as correct. And
::Some of this discussion seems to be about the elimination of nonfactual adjectives. Here are some examples:


that is what some people believe makes an article "unbiased" or "neutral." To write from a
:::John wore a forest green sportcoat over a black shirt. He crossed the street. [fact reporting]<br>
:::John wore a most beautiful forest green sportcoat over a black shirt. He crossed the street at a rapid pace. (now we are into opinion and hence away from neutrality, according to this discussion, unless we qualify it as thus:<br>
:::[following the preceding sentences] Some people might disagree thatJohn's coat as beautiful; others might dislike forest green and consider the coat ugly. For one's pace to qualify as "rapid," it must be measured against a standard.
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neutral point of view, one presents controversial views without asserting
"This metal beam weighs fifteen pounds." : No, it doesn't! It is fourteen pounds, thirteen ounces and part of an ounce.


them; to do ''that,'' it generally suffices to present competing views in a
This one is from real life: I insist that a certain flavor of PowerAde is "green" while several other people call it "yellow" and insist it isn't green. To me, it is certainly green.


way that is more or less acceptable to their adherents, and also to
Define "objective"!


''attribute'' the views to their adherents.
Am I now wearing a "kimono" or a "bathrobe"?


At what second does "night" end?


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To sum up the primary reason for this policy: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia,
What do people think about saying "perspectivist" instead of "neutral"? By perspectivist I mean discussing perspectives or experience rather than some unobservable truth "beyond" these. The phrase "neutral point of view" seems both false and misleading to me, while "perspectivist point of view" seems closer to what most people mean by NPOV in this discussion. --[[Dan]]

a compilation of human knowledge. But since Wikipedia is a community-built,

international resource, we surely cannot expect our collaborators to agree

in all cases, or even in many cases, on what constitutes human knowledge in

a strict sense. We can, therefore, adopt the looser sense of "human

knowledge" according to which a wide variety of conflicting theories

constitute what we call "human knowledge." As a collective, we shall make an effort to

present these conflicting theories fairly, without advocating any one of

them.



There is another reason to commit ourselves to a nonbias policy. Namely,

when it is clear to readers that we do not expect them to adopt any

particular opinion, this is conducive to our readers' feeling free to make

up their own minds for themselves, and thus to encourage in them

''intellectual independence''. So totalitarian governments and dogmatic

institutions everywhere have reason to be opposed to Wikipedia, if we

succeed in adhering to our nonbias policy: the presentation of many

competing theories on a wide variety of subjects suggests that we, the

creators of Wikipedia, trust readers' competence to form their own opinions

themselves. Texts that present the merits of multiple viewpoints fairly,

without demanding that the reader accept any one of them, are liberating.

Neutrality subverts dogmatism. This is something that nearly everyone

working on Wikipedia can agree is a good thing, though some working on Wikipedia

may question whether such totalitarian opposition is entirely mythical, now

and in the future.



<h2>What is the neutral point of view? What do we mean by "unbiased" and

"neutral"?</h2>



The answer isn't obvious or entirely agreed upon.



Essentially, a definition for "unbiased writing" is "presenting controversial views

without asserting them." Unfortunately, not everyone agrees with this definition. So we

offer the following clarifications with the hope that they will clear away

the many possible different interpretations of what unbiased writing, or writing

from a neutral point of view, amounts to.



First, and most importantly, consider what it means to say that unbiased

writing presents controversial views without asserting them. Unbiased

writing does not ''present only'' the most popular view; it does not

''assert'' the most popular view as being correct after presenting all

views; it does not assert that some sort of intermediate view among the

different views is the correct one (as if the intermediate view were "the

neutral point of view"). Presenting all points of view says, more or less, that

''p''-ists believe that ''p,'' and ''q''-ists believe that ''q,'' and that's

where the debate stands at present. Ideally, presenting all points of view also gives a

great deal of background on who believes that ''p'' and ''q'' and why, and

which view is more popular (being careful, here, not to word the statement

so as to imply that ''popularity'' implies ''correctness''). Detailed

articles might also contain the mutual evaluations of the ''p''-ists and the

''q''-ists, allowing each side to give its "best shot" at the other, but

studiously refraining from saying who won the exchange.



A point here bears elaboration. We said that the neutral point of view is

not, contrary to the seeming implication of the phrase, some actual ''point

of view'' on a controversial issue that is "neutral," or "intermediate,"

among the different positions. That represents a particular understanding of

what "neutral point of view" means. The prevailing Wikipedia understanding is that the neutral point of

view is not a ''point of view'' at all, because, under the "many points of view" doctrine, when one writes neutrally,

one is very careful not to state (or imply or insinuate or carefully but

subtly massage the reader into believing) that ''any particular view at

all'' is correct.



Another point bears elaboration as well. Writing unbiasedly can be

conceived very well as ''representing'' disputes, ''characterizing'' them,

rather than engaging in them. One can think of unbiased writing as the

cold, fair, analytical description of debates. Of course, one might well

doubt that this can be done at all without somehow subtly implying or

insinuating that one position is correct. But experienced academics,

polemical writers, and rhetoricians are well-attuned to bias, so that they

can usually spot a description of a debate that tends to favor one side; not

to say that they do not operate under certain hidden biases.



Now an important qualification. No individual needs to give minority views ''as much''

or as detailed a description as more popular views, in articles comparing

the views. We should not attempt to represent a dispute as if a view held

by only a small minority of people deserved as much attention as a very

popular view. That may be misleading as to the shape of the

dispute. If we are to represent the dispute fairly, we may choose to, collectively, (in most if

not all cases) present various competing views in proportion to their

representation among experts on the subject, or among the concerned parties.

None of this, however, is to say that minority views cannot receive as much

attention as we can possibly give them on pages specifically devoted to

those views. There is no size limit to Wikipedia. But even on such pages, though the content of a view is

spelled out possibly in great detail, we still make sure that the view is

not represented as ''the truth.''



Bias ''per se'' need not be conscious or particularly partisan. For

example, beginners in a field often fail to realize that what sounds like

uncontroversial common sense is actually biased in favor of one

controversial view. (So we not infrequently need an expert in order to

render the article entirely unbiased.) To take another example, writers

can, without intending it, propagate "geographical" bias, by for example

describing a dispute ''as it is conducted in the United States'' (or some

other country) without stating so or knowing that the dispute is framed differently

elsewhere.



Objection: impossible to remove all bias. Indeed, it seems that if we can

''detect'' bias, we can, if we are creative, ''remove'' it as well.



<h2>Alternative formulation of the policy: assert facts, including facts

about opinions--but don't assert opinions themselves</h2>



We sometimes give an alternative formulation of the nonbias policy: assert

facts, including facts about opinions--but don't assert opinions themselves.

By "fact," on the one hand, we mean "a piece of information about which

there is no serious dispute." In this sense, that a survey produced a

certain published result is a fact. That the Mars is a planet is a fact.

That 2+2=4 is a fact. That Socrates was a philosopher is a fact. No one

seriously disputes any of these things. So Wikipedians can feel free to

''assert'' as many of them as we can. By "opinion," on the other hand, we

mean "a piece of information about which there is some serious dispute."

There's bound to be [[borderline case]]s where we're not sure if we should

take a particular dispute seriously; but there are many propositions that

very clearly express opinions. That God exists is an opinion. That the

Beatles were the greatest rock and roll group is an opinion. That

intuitionistic logic is superior to ordinary logic is an opinion. That the

United States was wrong to drop the atomic bomb over Hiroshima and Nagasaki

is an opinion.



For determining whether something is fact or opinion in this sense, it does

not matter what the actual truth of the matter is; there can at least in

theory be false "facts" (things that ''everybody'' agrees upon, but which

are, in fact, false), and there are very often true "opinions," though

necessarily, it seems, more false ones than true.



Wikipedia is devoting to stating facts and only facts, in this sense. Where

we might want to state opinions, we convert that opinion into a fact by

''attributing'' the opinion to someone. So, rather than asserting, "God

exists," which is an opinion, we can say, "Most Americans believe that God

exists," which is a fact, or "Thomas Aquinas believed that God exists,"

which is also a fact. In the first instance we assert an opinion; in the

second and third instances we convert that opinion into a fact by

attributing it to someone. However, both of those facts are colored by what

evidence supports those facts and the semantics behind both statements: the

first is a statement gleaned from polls and is thus subject to the facts

behind poll-taking; the second is gleaned from the writings of Aquinas, which

are very different from polls. And the conception of God in the modern era

is very different from that of the age of Aquinas. Fortunately, Wikipedia

can have entries on God, Thomas Aquinas, polls, etc., to elucidate these points.



But it's not ''enough,'' to express the Wikipedia nonbias policy, just to

say that we should state facts and not opinions. When asserting a fact

''about an opinion,'' it is important ''also'' to assert facts ''about

competing opinions,'' and to do so without implying that any one of the

opinions is correct. It's also generally important to give the facts about

the reasons behind the views, and to make it clear who holds them. (It's

often best to cite a prominent representative of the view.)



<h2>Fairness and sympathetic tone</h2>



If we're going to characterize disputes fairly, fairness demands we present

competing views with a consistently positive, sympathetic tone. A fair

number of articles end up as fairly partisan commentary ''even while''

presenting both points of view; this is wrong. Even when a topic is

presented in terms of facts rather than opinion, an article can still

radiate an implied stance through either selection of which facts to

present, or more subtly their organization--for instance, refuting opposing

views as one goes makes them look a lot worse than collecting them in an

opinions-of-opponents section.



We should, instead, write articles with the tone that ''all'' positions

presented are at least plausible. Let's present all competing views

sympathetically. We can write with the attitude that such-and-such is a

good idea, except that, on the view of some detractors, the supporters of

said view overlooked such-and-such a detail. If we can't do that, we will

probably write stuff with so much contempt that subsequent edits are going

to have a hard time doing anything but veiling it.



<h2>Characterizing opinions of people's artistic and other work</h2>



A special case is the expression of aesthetic opinions. Some Wikipedia

articles about art, artists, and other creative topics (e.g., musicians,

actors, books, video games, etc.) have tended toward the effusive. This is,

we can agree, out of place in an encyclopedia; we might not all be able to

agree that so-and-so is the greatest bass guitar player in history. But it

is very important information indeed how some artist or some work has been

received by the general public, by reviewers, or by some very prominent

experts. Providing an overview of the common interpretations of a creative

work, preferably with citations or references to notable individuals holding

that interpretation, is appropriate. For instance, that Shakespeare is one

of the greatest authors of the English language is an important bit of

knowledge a schoolchild might need to learn from an encyclopedia. Notice,

determining how some artist or work has been received publicly or critically

might require research; but that reception, unlike the idiosyncratic opinion

of the Wikipedia article writer, is an opinion that really matters, for

purposes of an encyclopedia.



<h2>A consequence: writing for the enemy</h2>



Those who constantly attempt to advocate their own views on politically

charged topics (for example), who seem not to care at all about whether

other points of view are represented fairly, are violating the nonbias

policy ("write unbiasedly"). This entails that it is our job to speak for

the other side, and not just represent our own views. If we don't commit

ourselves to doing that, Wikipedia will be much, much weaker for it. We

should all be engaged in explaining each other's points of view as

sympathetically as possible.



In saying this, we are explicitly spelling out what might have been obvious

to some people from an initial reading of the policy. If each of us

''individually'' is permitted to write totally biased stuff in our Wikipedia

contributions, then how is it possible that the policy is ever ''violated''?

The policy ''says,'' "Go thou and write unbiasedly" (or something to that

effect). If that ''doesn't'' entail that we should fairly represent views

with which we disagree, then what ''does'' it mean? Maybe you think it

means, "Represent your own view fairly, but if you must only ''grudgingly''

allow others to have a say, please allow them to do so." Maybe that makes a

bit of sense as an interpretation--not a lot, but a bit. But consider, if

we each take responsibility for ''the entire'' article when we hit that

"save" button, then when we make a change to an article that represents

''our own'' views but not contrary views, or represents contrary views

unfairly or incompletely (etc.), surely we are adding bias to Wikipedia.

And does it really ever make sense ''not'' to take responsibility for the

entire article? Does it make sense to prise out sentences and say, "These

are mine, those are yours"? Perhaps, but in the context of a project that

is so strongly and explicitly committed to neutrality, that sort of attitude

seems totally out of place!



The other side might very well find your attempts to characterize their

views substandard, but it's the thought that counts. In resolving disputes

over neutrality issues, it's far better that we acknowledge that all sides

must be presented fairly, and make at least a college try at presenting the

other sides fairly. That will be appreciated much more than not trying at

all.



"Writing for the enemy" might make it seem as if we were adding

''deliberately'' flawed arguments to Wikipedia, which would be a very

strange thing to do. But it's better to view this (otherwise

puzzling)behavior as adding the ''best'' (published) arguments of the

opposition, preferably citing some prominent person who has actually made

the argument in the form in which you present it, stating them as

sympathetically as possible. Academics, e.g., philosophers, do this all the

time.



<h2>An example</h2>



It might help to consider an example of a biased text and how Wikipedians

have rendered it at least relatively unbiased.



On the [[abortion]] page, early in

2001, some advocates had used the page to exchange rhetorical barbs, being

unable to agree about what arguments should be on the page and how the

competing positions should be represented. What was needed--and what was

added--was an in-depth discussion of the different positions about the moral

and legal viability of abortion at different times. This discussion of the

positions was carefully crafted so as not to favor any one of the positions

outlined. This made it rather easier to organize and understand the

competing arguments surrounding the topic of abortion, which were each then

presented sympathetically, each with its strengths and weaknesses.



There are numerous other "success stories" of articles that began life as

virtual partisan screeds but were nicely cleaned up by people who concerned

themselves with representing all views clearly and sympathetically.



<h2>Objections and clarifications</h2>



What follows is a list of common objections, or questions, regarding

Wikipedia's nonbias policy, followed by replies.



<h3>There's no such thing as objectivity. Everybody with any philosophical

sophistication knows that. So how can we take the "neutrality" policy

seriously? Neutrality, lack of bias, isn't possible.</h3>



This is probably the most common objection to the neutrality policy. It

also reflects the most common ''misunderstanding'' of the policy (which, by

the way, was drafted originally for [[Nupedia]] by a philosopher). The misunderstanding is that the policy says

something controversial about the possibility of ''objectivity.'' It simply

does not. In particular, the policy does ''not'' say that there is even

''is'' such a thing as objectivity, a "view from nowhere" (in

[[Thomas Nagel]]'s phrase)--such

that articles written from ''that'' point of view are consequently

objectively true. That isn't the policy and it is not our aim! Rather, we

employ a different understanding of "neutral" and "unbiased" than many of us

might be used to. The policy is simply that we should do our best to

characterize disputes rather than engage in them. To say ''this'' is not to

say anything contentious, from a philosophical point of view; indeed, this

is something that philosophers are doing all the time, even strongly

relativist philosophers. (They are virtually required to be able to first

characterize their opponents' views fairly, in order to avoid being accused

of setting up straw men to knock down.) Sophisticated relativists will

immediately recognize that the policy is perfectly consistent with their

relativism.



If there's ''anything'' possibly contentious about the policy along these

lines, it is the implication that it is ''possible'' to characterize

disputes fairly, so that all the major participants will be able to look at

the resulting text, agreeing that their views are presented sympathetically

and as completely as possible (within the context of the discussion). It is

an empirical question, not a philosophical one, whether this is possible;

and that such a thing ''is'' indeed possible is evident simply by observing

that such texts are being written daily by the most capable academics,

encyclopedists, textbook writers, and journalists.



<h3>How are we to write articles about pseudoscientific topics, about which

majority scientific opinion is that the pseudoscientific opinion is not

credible and doesn't even really deserve serious mention?</h3>



If we're going to represent the sum total of "human knowledge"--of what we

believe we know, essentially--then we must concede that we will be

describing views repugnant to us without asserting that they are false.

Things are not, however, as bad as that sounds. The task before us is not

to describe disputes fairly, ''on some bogus view of fairness'' that would

have us describe pseudoscience as if were on a par with science; rather, the

task is to represent the majority (scientific) view as the majority view and

the minority (sometimes pseudoscientific) view as the minority view, and,

moreover, to explain how scientists have received pseudoscientific theories.

This is all in the purview of the task of ''describing a dispute fairly.''



There is a minority of Wikipedians who feel so strongly about this problem,

however, that they believe Wikipedia should adopt a "scientific point of

view" rather than a "neutral point of view." What these people have failed

to establish, however, is that there is really a need for such a policy,

''given that'' the scientists' view of pseudoscience can be clearly, fully,

and fairly explained to those who might be misled by pseudoscience.



<h3>What about views that are morally offensive to most Westerners, such as

racism, sexism, and Holocaust denial, that some people actually have?

Surely we are not to be neutral about <i>them</i>?</h3>



We can certainly include long discussions that present our moral repugnance

to such things; in doing so, we can maintain a healthy, consistent support

for the neutral point of view by attributing the view to some prominent

representatives or to some group of people. Others will be able to make up

their own minds and, being reasonable, surely come around to our view.

Those who harbor racism, sexism, etc., will surely not be convinced to

change their views based on a biased article, which only puts them on the

defensive; on the other hand, if we make a concerted effort to apply our

nonbias policy consistently, we might give those with morally repugnant

beliefs insight that will change those views.



<h3>But wait. I find the optimism about science vs. pseudo-science to be

baseless. History has shown that pseudo-science can beat out facts, as those

who rely on pseudo-science use lies, slander, innuendo and numercial

majorities of its followers to force their views on the anyone they can. If

this project gives equal validity to those who literally claim that the

Earth is flat, or those who claim that the Holocaust never occured, the

result is that it will (inadvertently) legitimize and help promote that

which only can be termed evil.</h3>



Please be clear on one thing: the Wikipedia neutrality policy certainly

''does not'' state, or imply, that we must "give equal validity" to

completely repugnant views. It does state that we must not take a stand on

them ''qua'' encyclopedia writers; but that does not stop us from

representing the majority views ''as such''; from fairly explaining the

strong arguments against the repugnant views; from describing the strong

moral repugnance that many decent people feel toward them; and so forth.



Hence, on the one hand, Wikipedia does not officially take a stand even on

such obvious issues, but on the other, it will not look as though we (the

authors of Wikipedia) had accorded equal credibility to morally repugnant

views. Given that the authors of Wikipedia represent a rough cross-section

of the educated public, our readers can expect us to have a similar

cross-section of opinion about extremism: most of us abhor it.



<h3>Wikipedia seems to have an Americo-centric point of view. Isn't this

contrary to the neutral point of view?</h3>



Yes, it certainly is, and it has no defenders on Wikipedia. The presence of

articles written from an exclusively United States point of view is merely a

reflection of the fact that there are many Americans working on the project,

which in turn is merely a reflection of the fact that the (English) project

is being conducted in English and that so many Americans are online.



This is an ongoing problem that can be corrected by active collaboration

from people outside of the U.S., of whom there are many.



<h3>The neutrality policy is used sometimes as an excuse to delete texts

that are perceived as biased. Isn't this a problem?</h3>



In many cases, yes. Most of us believe that the ''mere'' fact that some

text is biased is not enough, by itself, to delete the text outright. If it

contains perfectly valid information, the text should simply be edited

accordingly, and certainly not deleted.



There's sometimes trouble determining whether some claim is true or useful,

particularly when there are few people on board who know about the topic.

In such a case, it's a good idea to raise objections on a [[talk page]]; if

one has some reason to believe that the author of the biased material will

not be induced to change it, we have sometimes taken to removing the text to

the talk page itself (but certainly not deleting it entirely). But the

latter should be done more or less as a last resort, never merely as a way

of punishing people who have written something biased.



<h3>I agree with the nonbias policy but there are some here who seem

completely, irremediably biased. I have to go around and clean up after

them. What do I do?</h3>



This is a very difficult question.



Unless the case is really egregious, maybe the best thing is to call

attention to the problem publicly, pointing the perpetrators to this page

(but [[Wikipetiquette|politely]]--one gets

more flies with honey) and asking others to help. If the problem is

''really'' serious, [[Larry Sanger]] might be enlisted to

beat the person over the head (so to speak) and, in the most recalcitrant

cases, ask them to leave the project. There must surely be a point beyond

which our very strong interest in being a ''completely'' open project is

trumped by the interest the vast majority of our writers have, in being able

to get work done without constantly having to fix the intrusions of people

who do not respect our policy.



<h3>How can we avoid constant and endless warfare over neutrality

issues?</h3>



Would that people asked this question more often. We should ''never''

debate about ''how'' Wikipedia should be biased. It shouldn't be biased

''at all.''



The best way to avoid warfare over bias is to remember that we are all

reasonably intelligent, articulate people here, or we wouldn't be working on

this and caring so much about it. We have to make it our ''goal'' to

understand each others' perspectives and to ''work hard'' to make sure that

those other perspectives are fairly represented. When any dispute arises as

to what the article "should" say or what is "true," we must not adopt an

adversarial stance; we must do our best to ''step back'' and ask ourselves,

"How can this dispute be fairly characterized?" This has to be asked

repeatedly as each new controversial point is stated. It is not our job to

edit Wikipedia so that it reflects our own idiosyncratic views and then

defend those edits against all comers; it is our job to work together,

mainly adding new content, but also, when necessary, coming to a compromise

about how a controversy should be described, so that it is fair to all

sides.



<h3>What about the case where, in order to write any of a long series of

articles on some general subject, we must make some controversial

assumptions? That's the case, e.g., in writing about evolution. Surely we

won't have to hash out the evolution-vs.-creationism debate on every such

page?</h3>



No, surely not. There are virtually no topics that could not proceed

without making some assumptions that ''someone'' would find controversial.

This is true not only in evolutionary biology, but also philosophy, history,

physics, etc.



It is difficult to draw up general principles on which to rule in specific

cases, but the following might help: there is probably not a good reason to

discuss some assumption on a given page, if an assumption is best discussed

in depth on some ''other'' page. Some brief, unobtrusive pointer might be

apropos, however. E.g., in an article about the evolutionary development of

horses, we might have one brief sentence to the effect that some

creationists do not believe that horses (or any other animals) underwent any

evolution, and point the reader to the relevant article. If there is much

specific argumentation on some particular point, it might be placed on a

special page of its own.



<h3>I'm not convinced by what you say about "writing for the enemy." I

don't want to write for the enemy. Most of them rely on stating as fact

many things which are demonstrably false. Are you saying that, to be

neutral in writing an article, I must ''lie,'' in order to faithfully

represent the view I disagree with?</h3>



This is a misunderstanding what the neutrality policy says. ''You'' aren't

claiming ''anything,'' except to say, "So-and-so argues that such-and-such,

twiddle dee dee, and therefore, QED." This can be done with a straight

face, with no moral compunctions, because you are ''attributing'' the claim

to ''someone else.'' That's the important thing here! If we are summing up

''human knowledge'' on a subject, in the sense above-defined, then you are

''leaving out'' important information when you ''omit'' so-and-so's

argument.



It's worth observing that, at least in the humanities, scholars are trained

so that, even when trying to prove a point, one must bring forth

counter-arguments that seem to disprove one's thesis, so that one can

explain why the counter-arguments fail. Such scholarly training also gives

one a better knowledge of source material and what may have been rejected

over the years. Something very much like the neutral point of view is just

an assumption (more or less) among scholars--if it isn't adhered to, or if

only those facts that prove a particular point are used, one might lose

one's position and reputation.



<h3>I have some other objection. Where should I ask it?</h3>



Before asking it, please review the links below. The issues have been very

extensively covered before. If you have some new contribution to make to

the debate, you could try /Talk.


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See also:

[[Neutral point of view--older version and commentary]] <br>

[http://meta.wikipedia.com/wiki.phtml?title=Neutral_point_of_view--draft Meta-Wikipedia draft and commentary]

[[/Examples]] <br>
[[/Examples]] <br>

[[/Examples_Debate]] <br>
[[/Examples Debate]] <br>

[[Most controversial subjects in wikipedia]] <br>
[[Most controversial subjects in wikipedia]] <br>

[[Words that should not be used in wikipedia articles]]
[[Words that should not be used in wikipedia articles]]


See [[Creationism/Talk]] and [[Wikipedia commentary/Faith vs science with regard to the Wikipedia]] for ''lots'' more debate.
[[Creationism/Talk]]<br>
[[Wikipedia commentary/Faith vs science with regard to the Wikipedia]]</br>

[[Positive tone]]


See also [[Positive tone]].

Revision as of 04:18, 24 December 2001

Executive summary


Wikipedia has an important policy: roughly stated, you should write

articles without bias, representing all views fairly. Wikipedia uses the

words "bias" and "neutral" in a special sense! This doesn't mean that

it's possible to write an article from just one point of view, the

neutral (unbiased, "objective") point of view. That's a common

misunderstanding of the Wikipedia policy. The Wikipedia policy is that

we should fairly represent all sides of a dispute, and not make an

article state, imply, or insinuate that any one side is correct. It's

crucial that we work together to make articles unbiased. It's one of

the things that makes Wikipedia work so well. Writing unbiased text is an

art that requires practice. The following essay explains this policy in

depth, and is the result of much discussion. We strongly encourage you to

read and edit it.


Introduction: the basic concept of neutrality and why Wikipedia must be unbiased


A key Wikipedia policy is that

articles should be "unbiased," or written from a "neutral point of view."

We use these terms in a precise way that is different from the common

understanding. It's crucial to grasp what it means to be neutral (in this

sense)--a careful reading of this page will help.


Basically, to write without bias (from a neutral point of view) is to write

so that articles do not advocate any specific points of view; instead, the

different viewpoints in a controversy are all described fairly. This is

a simplistic definition and we'll add nuance later. But for now, we can say

just that to write articles without bias is to try to describe debates

rather than taking one definite stand.


Why should Wikipedia be unbiased?


Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia, which means it is a representation of

human knowledge at some level of generality. But we (humans) disagree about

specific cases; for any topic on which there are competing views, each view

represents a different theory of what the truth is, and insofar as that view

contradicts other views, its adherents believe that the other views are

false, and therefore not knowledge. Indeed, Wikipedia, there are many

opinionated people who often disagree with each other. Where there is

disagreement about what is true, there's disagreement about what constitutes

knowledge. Wikipedia works because it's a collaborative effort; but, whilst

collaborating, how can we solve the problem of endless "edit wars" in which

one person asserts that p, whereupon the next person changes the text so

that it asserts that not-p?


A solution is that we accept, for purposes of working on Wikipedia, that

"human knowledge" includes all different (significant, published)

theories on all different topics. So we're committed to the goal of

representing human knowledge in that sense. Something like this is

surely a well-established sense of the word "knowledge"; in this sense, what

is "known" has changes constantly with the passage of time, and when we use

the word "know" in the sense, we often use so-called scare quotes. In the

Middle Ages, we "knew" that the Earth was flat. We now "know" otherwise.


We could sum up human knowledge (in this sense) in a biased way: we'd state

a series of theories about topic T, and then claim that the truth about T is

such-and-such. But again, consider that Wikipedia is an international,

collaborative project. Probably, as we grow, nearly every view on every

subject will (eventually) be found among our authors and readership. To

avoid endless edit wars, we can agree to present each of these views

fairly, and not make our articles assert any one of them as correct. And

that is what some people believe makes an article "unbiased" or "neutral." To write from a

neutral point of view, one presents controversial views without asserting

them; to do that, it generally suffices to present competing views in a

way that is more or less acceptable to their adherents, and also to

attribute the views to their adherents.


To sum up the primary reason for this policy: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia,

a compilation of human knowledge. But since Wikipedia is a community-built,

international resource, we surely cannot expect our collaborators to agree

in all cases, or even in many cases, on what constitutes human knowledge in

a strict sense. We can, therefore, adopt the looser sense of "human

knowledge" according to which a wide variety of conflicting theories

constitute what we call "human knowledge." As a collective, we shall make an effort to

present these conflicting theories fairly, without advocating any one of

them.


There is another reason to commit ourselves to a nonbias policy. Namely,

when it is clear to readers that we do not expect them to adopt any

particular opinion, this is conducive to our readers' feeling free to make

up their own minds for themselves, and thus to encourage in them

intellectual independence. So totalitarian governments and dogmatic

institutions everywhere have reason to be opposed to Wikipedia, if we

succeed in adhering to our nonbias policy: the presentation of many

competing theories on a wide variety of subjects suggests that we, the

creators of Wikipedia, trust readers' competence to form their own opinions

themselves. Texts that present the merits of multiple viewpoints fairly,

without demanding that the reader accept any one of them, are liberating.

Neutrality subverts dogmatism. This is something that nearly everyone

working on Wikipedia can agree is a good thing, though some working on Wikipedia

may question whether such totalitarian opposition is entirely mythical, now

and in the future.


What is the neutral point of view? What do we mean by "unbiased" and "neutral"?


The answer isn't obvious or entirely agreed upon.


Essentially, a definition for "unbiased writing" is "presenting controversial views

without asserting them." Unfortunately, not everyone agrees with this definition. So we

offer the following clarifications with the hope that they will clear away

the many possible different interpretations of what unbiased writing, or writing

from a neutral point of view, amounts to.


First, and most importantly, consider what it means to say that unbiased

writing presents controversial views without asserting them. Unbiased

writing does not present only the most popular view; it does not

assert the most popular view as being correct after presenting all

views; it does not assert that some sort of intermediate view among the

different views is the correct one (as if the intermediate view were "the

neutral point of view"). Presenting all points of view says, more or less, that

p-ists believe that p, and q-ists believe that q, and that's

where the debate stands at present. Ideally, presenting all points of view also gives a

great deal of background on who believes that p and q and why, and

which view is more popular (being careful, here, not to word the statement

so as to imply that popularity implies correctness). Detailed

articles might also contain the mutual evaluations of the p-ists and the

q-ists, allowing each side to give its "best shot" at the other, but

studiously refraining from saying who won the exchange.


A point here bears elaboration. We said that the neutral point of view is

not, contrary to the seeming implication of the phrase, some actual point

of view on a controversial issue that is "neutral," or "intermediate,"

among the different positions. That represents a particular understanding of

what "neutral point of view" means. The prevailing Wikipedia understanding is that the neutral point of

view is not a point of view at all, because, under the "many points of view" doctrine, when one writes neutrally,

one is very careful not to state (or imply or insinuate or carefully but

subtly massage the reader into believing) that any particular view at

all is correct.


Another point bears elaboration as well. Writing unbiasedly can be

conceived very well as representing disputes, characterizing them,

rather than engaging in them. One can think of unbiased writing as the

cold, fair, analytical description of debates. Of course, one might well

doubt that this can be done at all without somehow subtly implying or

insinuating that one position is correct. But experienced academics,

polemical writers, and rhetoricians are well-attuned to bias, so that they

can usually spot a description of a debate that tends to favor one side; not

to say that they do not operate under certain hidden biases.


Now an important qualification. No individual needs to give minority views as much

or as detailed a description as more popular views, in articles comparing

the views. We should not attempt to represent a dispute as if a view held

by only a small minority of people deserved as much attention as a very

popular view. That may be misleading as to the shape of the

dispute. If we are to represent the dispute fairly, we may choose to, collectively, (in most if

not all cases) present various competing views in proportion to their

representation among experts on the subject, or among the concerned parties.

None of this, however, is to say that minority views cannot receive as much

attention as we can possibly give them on pages specifically devoted to

those views. There is no size limit to Wikipedia. But even on such pages, though the content of a view is

spelled out possibly in great detail, we still make sure that the view is

not represented as the truth.


Bias per se need not be conscious or particularly partisan. For

example, beginners in a field often fail to realize that what sounds like

uncontroversial common sense is actually biased in favor of one

controversial view. (So we not infrequently need an expert in order to

render the article entirely unbiased.) To take another example, writers

can, without intending it, propagate "geographical" bias, by for example

describing a dispute as it is conducted in the United States (or some

other country) without stating so or knowing that the dispute is framed differently

elsewhere.


Objection: impossible to remove all bias. Indeed, it seems that if we can

detect bias, we can, if we are creative, remove it as well.


Alternative formulation of the policy: assert facts, including facts about opinions--but don't assert opinions themselves


We sometimes give an alternative formulation of the nonbias policy: assert

facts, including facts about opinions--but don't assert opinions themselves.

By "fact," on the one hand, we mean "a piece of information about which

there is no serious dispute." In this sense, that a survey produced a

certain published result is a fact. That the Mars is a planet is a fact.

That 2+2=4 is a fact. That Socrates was a philosopher is a fact. No one

seriously disputes any of these things. So Wikipedians can feel free to

assert as many of them as we can. By "opinion," on the other hand, we

mean "a piece of information about which there is some serious dispute."

There's bound to be borderline cases where we're not sure if we should

take a particular dispute seriously; but there are many propositions that

very clearly express opinions. That God exists is an opinion. That the

Beatles were the greatest rock and roll group is an opinion. That

intuitionistic logic is superior to ordinary logic is an opinion. That the

United States was wrong to drop the atomic bomb over Hiroshima and Nagasaki

is an opinion.


For determining whether something is fact or opinion in this sense, it does

not matter what the actual truth of the matter is; there can at least in

theory be false "facts" (things that everybody agrees upon, but which

are, in fact, false), and there are very often true "opinions," though

necessarily, it seems, more false ones than true.


Wikipedia is devoting to stating facts and only facts, in this sense. Where

we might want to state opinions, we convert that opinion into a fact by

attributing the opinion to someone. So, rather than asserting, "God

exists," which is an opinion, we can say, "Most Americans believe that God

exists," which is a fact, or "Thomas Aquinas believed that God exists,"

which is also a fact. In the first instance we assert an opinion; in the

second and third instances we convert that opinion into a fact by

attributing it to someone. However, both of those facts are colored by what

evidence supports those facts and the semantics behind both statements: the

first is a statement gleaned from polls and is thus subject to the facts

behind poll-taking; the second is gleaned from the writings of Aquinas, which

are very different from polls. And the conception of God in the modern era

is very different from that of the age of Aquinas. Fortunately, Wikipedia

can have entries on God, Thomas Aquinas, polls, etc., to elucidate these points.


But it's not enough, to express the Wikipedia nonbias policy, just to

say that we should state facts and not opinions. When asserting a fact

about an opinion, it is important also to assert facts about

competing opinions, and to do so without implying that any one of the

opinions is correct. It's also generally important to give the facts about

the reasons behind the views, and to make it clear who holds them. (It's

often best to cite a prominent representative of the view.)


Fairness and sympathetic tone


If we're going to characterize disputes fairly, fairness demands we present

competing views with a consistently positive, sympathetic tone. A fair

number of articles end up as fairly partisan commentary even while

presenting both points of view; this is wrong. Even when a topic is

presented in terms of facts rather than opinion, an article can still

radiate an implied stance through either selection of which facts to

present, or more subtly their organization--for instance, refuting opposing

views as one goes makes them look a lot worse than collecting them in an

opinions-of-opponents section.


We should, instead, write articles with the tone that all positions

presented are at least plausible. Let's present all competing views

sympathetically. We can write with the attitude that such-and-such is a

good idea, except that, on the view of some detractors, the supporters of

said view overlooked such-and-such a detail. If we can't do that, we will

probably write stuff with so much contempt that subsequent edits are going

to have a hard time doing anything but veiling it.


Characterizing opinions of people's artistic and other work


A special case is the expression of aesthetic opinions. Some Wikipedia

articles about art, artists, and other creative topics (e.g., musicians,

actors, books, video games, etc.) have tended toward the effusive. This is,

we can agree, out of place in an encyclopedia; we might not all be able to

agree that so-and-so is the greatest bass guitar player in history. But it

is very important information indeed how some artist or some work has been

received by the general public, by reviewers, or by some very prominent

experts. Providing an overview of the common interpretations of a creative

work, preferably with citations or references to notable individuals holding

that interpretation, is appropriate. For instance, that Shakespeare is one

of the greatest authors of the English language is an important bit of

knowledge a schoolchild might need to learn from an encyclopedia. Notice,

determining how some artist or work has been received publicly or critically

might require research; but that reception, unlike the idiosyncratic opinion

of the Wikipedia article writer, is an opinion that really matters, for

purposes of an encyclopedia.


A consequence: writing for the enemy


Those who constantly attempt to advocate their own views on politically

charged topics (for example), who seem not to care at all about whether

other points of view are represented fairly, are violating the nonbias

policy ("write unbiasedly"). This entails that it is our job to speak for

the other side, and not just represent our own views. If we don't commit

ourselves to doing that, Wikipedia will be much, much weaker for it. We

should all be engaged in explaining each other's points of view as

sympathetically as possible.


In saying this, we are explicitly spelling out what might have been obvious

to some people from an initial reading of the policy. If each of us

individually is permitted to write totally biased stuff in our Wikipedia

contributions, then how is it possible that the policy is ever violated?

The policy says, "Go thou and write unbiasedly" (or something to that

effect). If that doesn't entail that we should fairly represent views

with which we disagree, then what does it mean? Maybe you think it

means, "Represent your own view fairly, but if you must only grudgingly

allow others to have a say, please allow them to do so." Maybe that makes a

bit of sense as an interpretation--not a lot, but a bit. But consider, if

we each take responsibility for the entire article when we hit that

"save" button, then when we make a change to an article that represents

our own views but not contrary views, or represents contrary views

unfairly or incompletely (etc.), surely we are adding bias to Wikipedia.

And does it really ever make sense not to take responsibility for the

entire article? Does it make sense to prise out sentences and say, "These

are mine, those are yours"? Perhaps, but in the context of a project that

is so strongly and explicitly committed to neutrality, that sort of attitude

seems totally out of place!


The other side might very well find your attempts to characterize their

views substandard, but it's the thought that counts. In resolving disputes

over neutrality issues, it's far better that we acknowledge that all sides

must be presented fairly, and make at least a college try at presenting the

other sides fairly. That will be appreciated much more than not trying at

all.


"Writing for the enemy" might make it seem as if we were adding

deliberately flawed arguments to Wikipedia, which would be a very

strange thing to do. But it's better to view this (otherwise

puzzling)behavior as adding the best (published) arguments of the

opposition, preferably citing some prominent person who has actually made

the argument in the form in which you present it, stating them as

sympathetically as possible. Academics, e.g., philosophers, do this all the

time.


An example


It might help to consider an example of a biased text and how Wikipedians

have rendered it at least relatively unbiased.


On the abortion page, early in

2001, some advocates had used the page to exchange rhetorical barbs, being

unable to agree about what arguments should be on the page and how the

competing positions should be represented. What was needed--and what was

added--was an in-depth discussion of the different positions about the moral

and legal viability of abortion at different times. This discussion of the

positions was carefully crafted so as not to favor any one of the positions

outlined. This made it rather easier to organize and understand the

competing arguments surrounding the topic of abortion, which were each then

presented sympathetically, each with its strengths and weaknesses.


There are numerous other "success stories" of articles that began life as

virtual partisan screeds but were nicely cleaned up by people who concerned

themselves with representing all views clearly and sympathetically.


Objections and clarifications


What follows is a list of common objections, or questions, regarding

Wikipedia's nonbias policy, followed by replies.


There's no such thing as objectivity. Everybody with any philosophical sophistication knows that. So how can we take the "neutrality" policy seriously? Neutrality, lack of bias, isn't possible.


This is probably the most common objection to the neutrality policy. It

also reflects the most common misunderstanding of the policy (which, by

the way, was drafted originally for Nupedia by a philosopher). The misunderstanding is that the policy says

something controversial about the possibility of objectivity. It simply

does not. In particular, the policy does not say that there is even

is such a thing as objectivity, a "view from nowhere" (in

Thomas Nagel's phrase)--such

that articles written from that point of view are consequently

objectively true. That isn't the policy and it is not our aim! Rather, we

employ a different understanding of "neutral" and "unbiased" than many of us

might be used to. The policy is simply that we should do our best to

characterize disputes rather than engage in them. To say this is not to

say anything contentious, from a philosophical point of view; indeed, this

is something that philosophers are doing all the time, even strongly

relativist philosophers. (They are virtually required to be able to first

characterize their opponents' views fairly, in order to avoid being accused

of setting up straw men to knock down.) Sophisticated relativists will

immediately recognize that the policy is perfectly consistent with their

relativism.


If there's anything possibly contentious about the policy along these

lines, it is the implication that it is possible to characterize

disputes fairly, so that all the major participants will be able to look at

the resulting text, agreeing that their views are presented sympathetically

and as completely as possible (within the context of the discussion). It is

an empirical question, not a philosophical one, whether this is possible;

and that such a thing is indeed possible is evident simply by observing

that such texts are being written daily by the most capable academics,

encyclopedists, textbook writers, and journalists.


How are we to write articles about pseudoscientific topics, about which majority scientific opinion is that the pseudoscientific opinion is not credible and doesn't even really deserve serious mention?


If we're going to represent the sum total of "human knowledge"--of what we

believe we know, essentially--then we must concede that we will be

describing views repugnant to us without asserting that they are false.

Things are not, however, as bad as that sounds. The task before us is not

to describe disputes fairly, on some bogus view of fairness that would

have us describe pseudoscience as if were on a par with science; rather, the

task is to represent the majority (scientific) view as the majority view and

the minority (sometimes pseudoscientific) view as the minority view, and,

moreover, to explain how scientists have received pseudoscientific theories.

This is all in the purview of the task of describing a dispute fairly.


There is a minority of Wikipedians who feel so strongly about this problem,

however, that they believe Wikipedia should adopt a "scientific point of

view" rather than a "neutral point of view." What these people have failed

to establish, however, is that there is really a need for such a policy,

given that the scientists' view of pseudoscience can be clearly, fully,

and fairly explained to those who might be misled by pseudoscience.


What about views that are morally offensive to most Westerners, such as racism, sexism, and Holocaust denial, that some people actually have? Surely we are not to be neutral about them?


We can certainly include long discussions that present our moral repugnance

to such things; in doing so, we can maintain a healthy, consistent support

for the neutral point of view by attributing the view to some prominent

representatives or to some group of people. Others will be able to make up

their own minds and, being reasonable, surely come around to our view.

Those who harbor racism, sexism, etc., will surely not be convinced to

change their views based on a biased article, which only puts them on the

defensive; on the other hand, if we make a concerted effort to apply our

nonbias policy consistently, we might give those with morally repugnant

beliefs insight that will change those views.


But wait. I find the optimism about science vs. pseudo-science to be baseless. History has shown that pseudo-science can beat out facts, as those who rely on pseudo-science use lies, slander, innuendo and numercial majorities of its followers to force their views on the anyone they can. If this project gives equal validity to those who literally claim that the Earth is flat, or those who claim that the Holocaust never occured, the result is that it will (inadvertently) legitimize and help promote that which only can be termed evil.


Please be clear on one thing: the Wikipedia neutrality policy certainly

does not state, or imply, that we must "give equal validity" to

completely repugnant views. It does state that we must not take a stand on

them qua encyclopedia writers; but that does not stop us from

representing the majority views as such; from fairly explaining the

strong arguments against the repugnant views; from describing the strong

moral repugnance that many decent people feel toward them; and so forth.


Hence, on the one hand, Wikipedia does not officially take a stand even on

such obvious issues, but on the other, it will not look as though we (the

authors of Wikipedia) had accorded equal credibility to morally repugnant

views. Given that the authors of Wikipedia represent a rough cross-section

of the educated public, our readers can expect us to have a similar

cross-section of opinion about extremism: most of us abhor it.


Wikipedia seems to have an Americo-centric point of view. Isn't this contrary to the neutral point of view?


Yes, it certainly is, and it has no defenders on Wikipedia. The presence of

articles written from an exclusively United States point of view is merely a

reflection of the fact that there are many Americans working on the project,

which in turn is merely a reflection of the fact that the (English) project

is being conducted in English and that so many Americans are online.


This is an ongoing problem that can be corrected by active collaboration

from people outside of the U.S., of whom there are many.


The neutrality policy is used sometimes as an excuse to delete texts that are perceived as biased. Isn't this a problem?


In many cases, yes. Most of us believe that the mere fact that some

text is biased is not enough, by itself, to delete the text outright. If it

contains perfectly valid information, the text should simply be edited

accordingly, and certainly not deleted.


There's sometimes trouble determining whether some claim is true or useful,

particularly when there are few people on board who know about the topic.

In such a case, it's a good idea to raise objections on a talk page; if

one has some reason to believe that the author of the biased material will

not be induced to change it, we have sometimes taken to removing the text to

the talk page itself (but certainly not deleting it entirely). But the

latter should be done more or less as a last resort, never merely as a way

of punishing people who have written something biased.


I agree with the nonbias policy but there are some here who seem completely, irremediably biased. I have to go around and clean up after them. What do I do?


This is a very difficult question.


Unless the case is really egregious, maybe the best thing is to call

attention to the problem publicly, pointing the perpetrators to this page

(but politely--one gets

more flies with honey) and asking others to help. If the problem is

really serious, Larry Sanger might be enlisted to

beat the person over the head (so to speak) and, in the most recalcitrant

cases, ask them to leave the project. There must surely be a point beyond

which our very strong interest in being a completely open project is

trumped by the interest the vast majority of our writers have, in being able

to get work done without constantly having to fix the intrusions of people

who do not respect our policy.


How can we avoid constant and endless warfare over neutrality issues?


Would that people asked this question more often. We should never

debate about how Wikipedia should be biased. It shouldn't be biased

at all.


The best way to avoid warfare over bias is to remember that we are all

reasonably intelligent, articulate people here, or we wouldn't be working on

this and caring so much about it. We have to make it our goal to

understand each others' perspectives and to work hard to make sure that

those other perspectives are fairly represented. When any dispute arises as

to what the article "should" say or what is "true," we must not adopt an

adversarial stance; we must do our best to step back and ask ourselves,

"How can this dispute be fairly characterized?" This has to be asked

repeatedly as each new controversial point is stated. It is not our job to

edit Wikipedia so that it reflects our own idiosyncratic views and then

defend those edits against all comers; it is our job to work together,

mainly adding new content, but also, when necessary, coming to a compromise

about how a controversy should be described, so that it is fair to all

sides.


What about the case where, in order to write any of a long series of articles on some general subject, we must make some controversial assumptions? That's the case, e.g., in writing about evolution. Surely we won't have to hash out the evolution-vs.-creationism debate on every such page?


No, surely not. There are virtually no topics that could not proceed

without making some assumptions that someone would find controversial.

This is true not only in evolutionary biology, but also philosophy, history,

physics, etc.


It is difficult to draw up general principles on which to rule in specific

cases, but the following might help: there is probably not a good reason to

discuss some assumption on a given page, if an assumption is best discussed

in depth on some other page. Some brief, unobtrusive pointer might be

apropos, however. E.g., in an article about the evolutionary development of

horses, we might have one brief sentence to the effect that some

creationists do not believe that horses (or any other animals) underwent any

evolution, and point the reader to the relevant article. If there is much

specific argumentation on some particular point, it might be placed on a

special page of its own.


I'm not convinced by what you say about "writing for the enemy." I don't want to write for the enemy. Most of them rely on stating as fact many things which are demonstrably false. Are you saying that, to be neutral in writing an article, I must lie, in order to faithfully represent the view I disagree with?


This is a misunderstanding what the neutrality policy says. You aren't

claiming anything, except to say, "So-and-so argues that such-and-such,

twiddle dee dee, and therefore, QED." This can be done with a straight

face, with no moral compunctions, because you are attributing the claim

to someone else. That's the important thing here! If we are summing up

human knowledge on a subject, in the sense above-defined, then you are

leaving out important information when you omit so-and-so's

argument.


It's worth observing that, at least in the humanities, scholars are trained

so that, even when trying to prove a point, one must bring forth

counter-arguments that seem to disprove one's thesis, so that one can

explain why the counter-arguments fail. Such scholarly training also gives

one a better knowledge of source material and what may have been rejected

over the years. Something very much like the neutral point of view is just

an assumption (more or less) among scholars--if it isn't adhered to, or if

only those facts that prove a particular point are used, one might lose

one's position and reputation.


I have some other objection. Where should I ask it?


Before asking it, please review the links below. The issues have been very

extensively covered before. If you have some new contribution to make to

the debate, you could try /Talk.


See also:

Neutral point of view--older version and commentary

Meta-Wikipedia draft and commentary

/Examples

/Examples Debate

Most controversial subjects in wikipedia

Words that should not be used in wikipedia articles

Creationism/Talk

Wikipedia commentary/Faith vs science with regard to the Wikipedia

Positive tone