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List of Unificationists

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I know that WP has other lists of members of religions. However this article has a lot of problems. It starts out by listing Rev. Moon's family, who are already the subject of another article: True Family. It then lists some church members (Unificationists if you don't know are members of the Unification Church). It then lists some former members. Here is one problem: The Unification Church (says its article) is a religious movement. People join, leave, and some re-join after leaving, all the time. How are you going to keep track if someone is a member or a former member? Call them up every day to ask them? Being listed as a member or a former member could potentially cause problems for a person, a problem for WP:BLP policies. Most of the article is uncited and some semi-notable people seem to have added themselves, or been added by friends, for the sake of self-promotion. Notable church members could be researched by means of categories (as already are in use) without the need for a list. (Disclaimer: I am a Unificationist, but not an important enough one to be on the List of Unificationists.) Steve Dufour (talk) 18:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

• Comment Since a "list" of religious adherents is never complete, shouldn't this be a category, if it continues to exist in some form? Jclemens (talk) 19:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

There are already several categories for Unificationists. Steve Dufour (talk) 19:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

• Delete This appears to be a list of the Moon family members and high ranking individuals within the Unification Church's business operations. I don't see the encyclopedic value of this list. Pastor Theo (talk) 21:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. —PC78 (talk) 23:34, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - The list can easily be improved upon by adding a citation to a secondary WP:RS/WP:V source for every entry on the list. See List of Scientologists for a list that is maintained better, with a citation to a secondary source for every entry. Cirt (talk) 03:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. —Cirt (talk) 03:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. —Cirt (talk) 03:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
• Comment: I have begun to do a bit of cleanup on the list. I will work to add a secondary WP:RS/WP:V source for each entry. Cirt (talk) 03:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
• Keep: while the major members on this list could as easily be dealt with by a category (and would typically have citation in their own articles for their being active in Unificationism), this list serves as a place for mention of more marginal members, for whom mention of in primary sources (including their own writing) and/or trivial mention in secondary sources clearly indicates are active in (and often are prominent within the context of) Unificationism, but lack the significant third party coverage (and thus prominence in the wider world) to sustain their own articles. Tyler Hendricks & Won Pil Kim would appear to be candidates for this treatment. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk(P) 04:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
• If kept rename because "unificationist" does not necessarily mean a church member, since there are unification movements around the world that have nothing to do with religion. I suggest List of members of the Unification Church 76.66.193.90 (talk) 05:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)