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:::Nobody made you say what you said or do what you did. There's nobody to blame for your own words but yourself. '''[[User:Grsz11|<font color="black">Grsz</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Grsz11|<b><font color="red">11</font></b>]]</sup>''' 03:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
:::Nobody made you say what you said or do what you did. There's nobody to blame for your own words but yourself. '''[[User:Grsz11|<font color="black">Grsz</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Grsz11|<b><font color="red">11</font></b>]]</sup>''' 03:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Actually, on the contrary, I was provoked by Baseball Bugs. I do believe that someone has used "provocation" as an excuse before. Consistency, please. <font face="Old English Text MT" size="3px" bgcolor="black"><span style="background-color: black;">[[User:Axmann8|<font color="#66FFFF"><u>-Axmann8</u></font>]] [[User talk:Axmann8|<font color="#66FF00">(<u>Talk</u>)</font>]]</span></font> 06:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
::::Actually, on the contrary, I was provoked by Baseball Bugs. I do believe that someone has used "provocation" as an excuse before. Consistency, please. <font face="Old English Text MT" size="3px" bgcolor="black"><span style="background-color: black;">[[User:Axmann8|<font color="#66FFFF"><u>-Axmann8</u></font>]] [[User talk:Axmann8|<font color="#66FF00">(<u>Talk</u>)</font>]]</span></font> 06:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::"I was provoked" is '''a liberal's excuse'''. It's the "look what you made me do" game. The conservative and/or libertarian position is that you yourself are responsible for your own actions. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]] 07:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Axmann8 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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I was entrapped into making the comments I have made. My userbox (which conformed to Wikipedia policy) was proposed for deletion, and should not have been. The entire conversation should have never occurred, as Orangemike was the one to suggest that I re-add my userbox to my page. Orangemike is indeed an administrator. If an admin suggests putting something on my page that was against Wikipedia policy, then that same administrator should have corrected the mistake. If you look at my edit history, I originally removed the userbox as "polemic", until Orangemike suggested other. I put my trust in a Wikipedia administrator, and it gets me indef banned. Interesting. That seems fair. It's complete entrapment. I get attacked mercilessly, and when I try to defend myself from untrue and unwarranted comments (such as those accusing me of white supremacy, which was neither implied or expressed. Please review the skinhead article and try to tell me that it doesn't state numerous times that racists are a lot of the time non-racist ones. I never put "I hate blacks" or "I'm a racist skinhead" on my userpage, did I? No, I did not. None other than Orangemike, the one who originally deterred me from removing the userbox (which caused the discussion at ANI), should be the one to review this block and see if it is merited. Henrik should also review this block and tell me if I have done anything "disruptive". -Axmann8 (Talk) 03:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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There was pretty much a consensus to block you, indefinitely. Putting that aside, your conduct here has been extremely inappropriate. We're building an encyclopedia, and you were not. You're now blocked indefinitely and I don't see that block being overturned. If you post the same or other frivolous unblock requests again this page will be protected. Rjd0060 (talk) 04:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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I was entrapped into making the comments I have made. My userbox (which conformed to Wikipedia policy) was proposed for deletion, and should not have been. The entire conversation should have never occurred, as Orangemike was the one to suggest that I re-add my userbox to my page. Orangemike is indeed an administrator. If an admin suggests putting something on my page that was against Wikipedia policy, then that same administrator should have corrected the mistake. If you look at my edit history, I originally removed the userbox as "polemic", until Orangemike suggested other. I put my trust in a Wikipedia administrator, and it gets me indef banned. Interesting. That seems fair. It's complete entrapment. I get attacked mercilessly, and when I try to defend myself from untrue and unwarranted comments (such as those accusing me of white supremacy, which was neither implied or expressed. Please review the skinhead article and try to tell me that it doesn't state numerous times that racists are a lot of the time non-racist ones. I never put "I hate blacks" or "I'm a racist skinhead" on my userpage, did I? No, I did not. None other than Orangemike, the one who originally deterred me from removing the userbox (which caused the discussion at ANI), should be the one to review this block and see if it is merited. Henrik should also review this block and tell me if I have done anything "disruptive". -Axmann8 (Talk) 03:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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In general, making the exact same request will get you the exact same response... Unless you have something new to tell us, the answer is again, "No." Hersfold (t/a/c) 04:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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Axmann8 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was entrapped into making the comments I have made. My userbox (which conformed to Wikipedia policy) was proposed for deletion, and should not have been. The entire conversation should have never occurred, as Orangemike was the one to suggest that I re-add my userbox to my page. Orangemike is indeed an administrator. If an admin suggests putting something on my page that was against Wikipedia policy, then that same administrator should have corrected the mistake. If you look at my edit history, I originally removed the userbox as "polemic", until Orangemike suggested other. I put my trust in a Wikipedia administrator, and it gets me indef banned. Interesting. That seems fair. It's complete entrapment. I get attacked mercilessly, and when I try to defend myself from untrue and unwarranted comments (such as those accusing me of white supremacy, which was neither implied or expressed. Please review the skinhead article and try to tell me that it doesn't state numerous times that racists are a lot of the time non-racist ones. I never put "I hate blacks" or "I'm a racist skinhead" on my userpage, did I? No, I did not. None other than Orangemike, the one who originally deterred me from removing the userbox (which caused the discussion at ANI), should be the one to review this block and see if it is merited. Henrik should also review this block and tell me if I have done anything "disruptive". -Axmann8 (Talk) 03:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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You seem to have a long history of using Wikipedia to push your own personal political point of view. This is not what Wikipedia is for. This block is not about a single incident, but a pattern of disruptive behavior. Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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- You aren't blocked because of the userbox. Grsz11 03:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I want to repeat that very clearly. You were not blocked because of the userbox, Ax; that would have been an injustice (and a display of appalling ignorance on the part of the blocking admin). You were blocked because you voluntarily agreed to abstain from political edits, and then you broke your word, more than once, with a snide citation of WP:IAR as your only "excuse" for doing so. That is what got you blocked. Don't pretend otherwise. I have gone to a great deal of effort to be as fair as possible to somebody who clearly is of a different ideology than I am, and who I suspect may be worse than that; but even we Quakers have our limits. This community gave you multiple chances, and you blew them all. Farewell. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:02, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- That's bull, and you know it. You set me up. -Axmann8 (Talk) 01:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nobody made you say what you said or do what you did. There's nobody to blame for your own words but yourself. Grsz11 03:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, on the contrary, I was provoked by Baseball Bugs. I do believe that someone has used "provocation" as an excuse before. Consistency, please. -Axmann8 (Talk) 06:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- "I was provoked" is a liberal's excuse. It's the "look what you made me do" game. The conservative and/or libertarian position is that you yourself are responsible for your own actions. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 07:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, on the contrary, I was provoked by Baseball Bugs. I do believe that someone has used "provocation" as an excuse before. Consistency, please. -Axmann8 (Talk) 06:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nobody made you say what you said or do what you did. There's nobody to blame for your own words but yourself. Grsz11 03:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- That's bull, and you know it. You set me up. -Axmann8 (Talk) 01:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
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Re:My request for NPW tool
Ani discussion followup
Hi. I wanted to follow-up on your report to ANI. I agree with you that the response from that editor was entirely inappropriate. I believe I have dealt with that, but let's keep an eye on it. However, I'd like to mention something: Your work on WP:NPP is very important and much appreciated. However, take a look at this section, specifically about where it recommends patrolling from the bottom of the new pages list. I'll be honest, when I was a less experienced editor, I did the same thing and I needed guidance in that area too. Please take it to heart, and keep up the hard work. Toddst1 (talk) 13:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, in looking through my archives, it's amazing how similar your episode and mine are. Take a look User_talk:Toddst1/Archive_1#Haley_Industries. Unfortunately the other editor had some bigger issues and was eventually indef blocked. Toddst1 (talk) 13:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Nice
this comment is a lot nicer! It expresses your opinion in quite clear language, without being uncivil to other editors. Even though I disagree with what is said (hey, reasonable people can occasionally disagree), I can appreciate that it is expressed in a much more civil language. henrik•talk 16:26, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
About the bar at the top of the page
Hi. While I was looking at your user page I noticed a bar at the top with links to your talk page, subpages, useful links etc. I just wanted to know, how do you get that? Could you tell me? If so, that would be great thanks.Ross Rhodes (talk) 21:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
Thanks, though I've done something to it thats got rid of it? I'm not sure what I've done. Could you send me it again please? Ross Rhodes (talk) 21:57, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, again
Thanks once again for helping me. This will come very useful. Ross Rhodes (talk) 22:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Topic ban
You are not entitled to ignore your topic ban a mere week after being unblocked. You agreed to abide by a certain set of rules for 5 months, please don't subvert all the good progress you're making here by being dragged back into political discussions. A simple reference to WP:IAR is not an acceptable way to get around a topic ban you freely agreed to - indeed suggested yourself. henrik•talk 19:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Userbox
I'm curious if you think this is appropriate. Grsz11 18:26, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- Pretty sure you can't compare that to a "This user is a Democrat/Republican" userbox. Grsz11 19:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as I am mine, and I've asked the community of theirs. Grsz11 19:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Help
Hi. Since you created the bar at the top of your page onto my userpages, I was wandering, do you know how to create a guestbook? If so, can you please tell me? Thank you. Ross Rhodes (talk) 18:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
About the poems
Thank you for commenting on my poems. Please sign my guestbook sometime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ross Rhodes (talk • contribs) 19:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Blocked
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below. Black Kite 01:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)