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::''The Great Seljuq Empire (Persian: دولت سلجوقیان) was a Persianate Turkic medieval Sunni Muslim empire, established by the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks.''
::''The Great Seljuq Empire (Persian: دولت سلجوقیان) was a Persianate Turkic medieval Sunni Muslim empire, established by the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks.''
::Since in one sentence you have to re-establish the fact that Oghuz Turks are ''Turkic''. LMAO!!! --[[User:Kansas Bear|Kansas Bear]] ([[User talk:Kansas Bear#top|talk]]) 22:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
::Since in one sentence you have to re-establish the fact that Oghuz Turks are ''Turkic''. LMAO!!! --[[User:Kansas Bear|Kansas Bear]] ([[User talk:Kansas Bear#top|talk]]) 22:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:How did I violated the rules? Is it By saying "''If you had an IQ higher than the room temperature you would of grasp that.''" well thats not an insult thats just a fact LOL.
:And about my sentence: "''Persianate Turkic medieval Sunni Muslim empire''" part of the sentence defines the empire, while "''established by the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks.''" describes which branch established the empire. If you want to put full stops in between go ahead and do, its simple. Anyway lets go back to the first question :). Why did say "''This had been addressed, again''"??? What you mean by that what are you addressing and to whom? Just curious thats all. :) -- [[User:Mystery.sin|Mystery.sin]] ([[User talk:Mystery.sin|talk]]) 00:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia: Harrassment

Wikipedia:Harassment.

Harassment is defined as a pattern of offensive behavior that appears to a reasonable observer to have the purpose of adversely affecting a targeted person or persons, usually (but not always) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating the primary target. The intended outcome may be to make editing Wikipedia unpleasant for the target, to undermine them, to frighten them, or to discourage them from editing entirely.

That IP has violated 3RR several times over now. His edits are simply copying and pasting a large amount of material from Islam in Iran (ineptly - look at the reference numbers in the section he moved). I believe this is also in violation of GDFL. I've reported this to an admin but he's not around at the moment. --Folantin (talk) 14:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Well, I'll continue to keep an eye on it then. How have you been Folantin?? --Kansas Bear (talk) 14:51, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, he's done it again. Judging by his talk page, he has a long history of disruptive editing. "How have you been Folantin??" Not too bad in myself, thanks. Wikipedia is just as crazy as ever though. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 14:54, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Constantinople

Hi Thanks for the reference, there are a few more pages i'll need this on. Cheers English Bobby (talk) 18:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Great Seljuq Empire

Hi, in the Great Seljuq Empire page you said "This had been addressed, again" but what you mean by that? who are you addressing this to? I'm little confused. -- Mystery.sin (talk) 15:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest reading:
  • M.A. Amir-Moezzi, "Shahrbanu", Encyclopaedia Iranica, Online Edition, (LINK): "... here one might bear in mind that non-Persian dynasties such as the Ghaznavids, Saljuqs and Ilkhanids were rapidly to adopt the Persian language and have their origins traced back to the ancient kings of Persia rather than to Turkish heroes or Muslim saints ..."
  • Josef W. Meri, "Medieval Islamic Civilization: An Encyclopedia", Routledge, 2005, p. 399
  • Michael Mandelbaum, "Central Asia and the World", Council on Foreign Relations (May 1994), p. 79
  • Jonathan Dewald, "Europe 1450 to 1789: Encyclopedia of the Early Modern World", Charles Scribner's Sons, 2004, p. 24: "Turcoman armies coming from the East had driven the Byzantines out of much of Asia Minor and established the Persianized sultanate of the Seljuks."
  • Grousset, Rene, The Empire of the Steppes, (Rutgers University Press, 1991), 161,164; "..renewed the Seljuk attempt to found a great Turko-Persian empire in eastern Iran..", "It is to be noted that the Seljuks, those Turkomans who became sultans of Persia, did not Turkify Persia-no doubt because they did not wish to do so. On the contrary, it was they who voluntarily became Persians and who, in the manner of the great old Sassanid kings, strove to protect the Iranian populations from the plundering of Ghuzz bands and save Iranian culture from the Turkoman menace."
  • Possessors and possessed: museums, archaeology, and the visualization of history in the late Ottoman Empire; By Wendy M. K. Shaw; Published by University of California Press, 2003, ISBN 0520233352, 9780520233355; p. 5.
  • Jackson, P. (2002). Review: The History of the Seljuq Turks: The History of the Seljuq Turks.Journal of Islamic Studies 2002 13(1):75-76; doi:10.1093/jis/13.1.75.Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies.
  • Bosworth, C. E. (2001). Notes on Some Turkish Names in Abu 'l-Fadl Bayhaqi's Tarikh-i Mas'udi. Oriens, Vol. 36, 2001 (2001), pp. 299-313.
  • Dani, A. H., Masson, V. M. (Eds), Asimova, M. S. (Eds), Litvinsky, B. A. (Eds), Boaworth, C. E. (Eds). (1999). History of Civilizations of Central Asia. Motilal Banarsidass Publishers (Pvt. Ltd).
  • Hancock, I. (2006). ON ROMANI ORIGINS AND IDENTITY. The Romani Archives and Documentation Center. The University of Texas at Austin.
  • Asimov, M. S., Bosworth, C. E. (eds.). (1998). History of Civilizations of Central Asia, Vol. IV: The Age of Achievement: AD 750 to the End of the Fifteenth Century, Part One: The Historical, Social and Economic Setting. Multiple History Series. Paris: UNESCO Publishing.
  • Dani, A. H., Masson, V. M. (Eds), Asimova, M. S. (Eds), Litvinsky, B. A. (Eds), Boaworth, C. E. (Eds). (1999). History of Civilizations of Central Asia. Motilal Banarsidass Publishers (Pvt. Ltd).
  • Michael Mandelbaum, "Central Asia and the World", Council on Foreign Relations (May 1994), p. 79
  • Jonathan Dewald, "Europe 1450 to 1789: Encyclopedia of the Early Modern World", Charles Scribner's Sons, 2004, p. 24: "Turcoman armies coming from the East had driven the Byzantines out of much of Asia Minor and established the Persianized sultanate of the Seljuks."
  • C.E. Bosworth, "Turkish Expansion towards the west" in UNESCO HISTORY OF HUMANITY, Volume IV, titled "From the Seventh to the Sixteenth Century", UNESCO Publishing / Routledge, p. 391: "While the Arabic language retained its primacy in such spheres as law, theology and science, the culture of the Seljuk court and secular literature within the sultanate became largely Persianized; this is seen in the early adoption of Persian epic names by the Seljuk rulers (Qubād, Kay Khusraw and so on) and in the use of Persian as a literary language (Turkish must have been essentially a vehicle for everyday speech at this time). The process of Persianization accelerated in the thirteenth century with the presence in Konya of two of the most distinguished refugees fleeing before the Mongols, Bahā' al-Dīn Walad and his son Mawlānā Jalāl al-Dīn Rūmī, whose Mathnawī, composed in Konya, constitutes one of the crowning glories of classical Persian literature." --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


???? I think you didnt understand the question, what im asking is why did say "This had been addressed, again". Who are you addressing too??? Mystery.sin (talk) 19:13, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have a better question, why did you say this; LOL Its only one word im adding you dont need to get all excited about it and that word is true so whats the point of removing something thats obviously phucking true.. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dude you should not answer a question with a question cause i dont think my question was that hard lol, it was quite straight forward. The reason why i used the word "phucking" was to express something that was obvious, its basically a way of expression it wasnt used in a context of insult. If you had an IQ higher than the room temperature you would of grasp that. PS do not be biased be neutral. Peace -- Mystery.sin (talk) 22:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
IF you knew ANYTHING about the "RULES" you keep preaching about, you'd know you just violated WP:NPA[1]. But I shouldn't expect civility from someone that can't even read the references! --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And as for "IQ", here is your oh-so brilliant sentence....;
The Great Seljuq Empire (Persian: دولت سلجوقیان) was a Persianate Turkic medieval Sunni Muslim empire, established by the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks.
Since in one sentence you have to re-establish the fact that Oghuz Turks are Turkic. LMAO!!! --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How did I violated the rules? Is it By saying "If you had an IQ higher than the room temperature you would of grasp that." well thats not an insult thats just a fact LOL.
And about my sentence: "Persianate Turkic medieval Sunni Muslim empire" part of the sentence defines the empire, while "established by the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks." describes which branch established the empire. If you want to put full stops in between go ahead and do, its simple. Anyway lets go back to the first question :). Why did say "This had been addressed, again"??? What you mean by that what are you addressing and to whom? Just curious thats all. :) -- Mystery.sin (talk) 00:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]