Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 January 5

5 January 2010

Expressor

Expressor (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

I am requesting a review of the deletion of the Expressor article and that this article be temporarily restored for all to examine during this review.

I have attempted to engage the editors who initiated and supported the Expressor AfD nomination, but none have responded. I have also attempted to communicate with the administrator who deleted the Expressor page – User:Secret -- before requesting this deletion review, but Secret also never responded. I am requesting undeletion of the Expressor page because I believe it was nominated for deletion based on a misinterpretation of the notability guidelines, supported by conflicting interpretations of what constitutes notability for software companies and mis-statements of fact.

As I noted in a comment posted in the AfD discussion for expressor competitor Talend: “Like Talend, expressor is a new entrant with substantial VC backing in the established market for data integration and ETL products -- a fact both companies can and have proven with numerous, industry-specific references. An editor here noted that Talend has only received coverage in IT-related publications -- but those are exactly the kind of objective, secondary sources of information that not only confer notability within this IT market segment, but they are also the kind of secondary research buyers seek when evaluating a solution. (And since it competes in the same market, it is not surprising that expressor cited many of the same sources, such as Gartner, in its entry.) By deleting entries for companies such as Talend and expressor (not to mention other similar entries for Pentaho, Apatar and Jitterbit) for non-notability, you are ensuring that Wikipedia readers can only find information here on the largest vendors and products, and therefore get a skewed and inaccurate picture of objective reality.” Sccasey (talk) 14:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

• Overturn/incubate userfy -- the AfD discussion produced a weak result at best, and a search here suggests it is very likely that an article can be justified. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 19:14, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
  • There is already a Copy located here User:Sccasey/expressor_software_entry_draft.--Hu12 (talk) 08:25, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
    • That's a pretty crappy draft, and if that's where we're headed then I agree that there is no need for an article here. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:29, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
• User:Sccasey has a probable conflict of interest regarding this topic. However, the topic itself appears to meet the general notability criterion ([1][2]) and the version of the article produced by Sccasey seemed to establish the notability of the topic. So, incubate (in this case, I think incubating is a better option than userfying because it will allow other editors to participate in the improvement) until a policy-compliant version of the article is produced. –BLACK FALCON ^(TALK) 19:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
• Keep Deleted. User:Sccasey is a Consultant for expressor software. See Spam Case. Nothing more than a Advertisement masquerading as an article for non-notable software(WP:CORP). References found are to splogs, press releases, self-submitted reviews and to partners that do not confer notability and do not count as reliable sources. Nothing in this suggests that this site or service has any sort of historical or technical significance of the kind needed to support an encyclopedia article.--Hu12 (talk) 08:22, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
• Restore article deleted on 12/10 by Secret.

The article referenced by Hu12 above was an early draft that was subsequently edited based on feedback from other editors. This discussion should be based on the article version that was deleted on 12/10 by Secret -- which is why I made that request when initiating this review.