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:::There is a difference between "Yes, they are spamming, and thats because they didn't know the rules" (The sort of thing a level 1 or 2 warning is for), and "Yes, they are spamming malciously and disrupting Wikipedia in bad faith." (The thing a level 4im warning gives.) --[[User:Taelus|Taelus]] ([[User talk:Taelus|talk]]) 18:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:::There is a difference between "Yes, they are spamming, and thats because they didn't know the rules" (The sort of thing a level 1 or 2 warning is for), and "Yes, they are spamming malciously and disrupting Wikipedia in bad faith." (The thing a level 4im warning gives.) --[[User:Taelus|Taelus]] ([[User talk:Taelus|talk]]) 18:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I have a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY towards all spammers..I treat em all the same. I'm just glad this came to a screeching halt, before she added all of her 500+ links. I was quite prepared to report her to [[WP:AIV]] as a promotion only account, if she had added even 1 additional link. '''Further discussion, ''short of a direct order from an admin'', aimed at attempting to persuade me to remove this well deserved warning from the spammers talk page, is pointless.''' [[User:Wuhwuzdat|<font color="#21421E" face="Papyrus">'''Wuh'''</font>]][[User talk:Wuhwuzdat|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">'''Wuz'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Wuhwuzdat|<font color="#AA0022" face="Papyrus">'''Dat'''</font>]] 18:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I have a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY towards all spammers..I treat em all the same. I'm just glad this came to a screeching halt, before she added all of her 500+ links. I was quite prepared to report her to [[WP:AIV]] as a promotion only account, if she had added even 1 additional link. '''Further discussion, ''short of a direct order from an admin'', aimed at attempting to persuade me to remove this well deserved warning from the spammers talk page, is pointless.''' [[User:Wuhwuzdat|<font color="#21421E" face="Papyrus">'''Wuh'''</font>]][[User talk:Wuhwuzdat|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">'''Wuz'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Wuhwuzdat|<font color="#AA0022" face="Papyrus">'''Dat'''</font>]] 18:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

===Request to reconsider===
I also disagree that the links provided were spam, and I also object to the level 4 warning given to the user.

This was not a case of multiple external links being added to one article, but of deep links being added to individual articles - each of which met [[WP:ELYES]] #3: {{xt|Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to '''copyright issues''', amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, '''interview transcripts''', or online textbooks), or other reasons}} (my emphasis).

The [[WP:SPAM]] guideline is not prescriptive, and it is clear to me that the assumption that the user was adding links in order to promote the American Institute of Physics website is a violation of [[WP:AGF]]. Links to these interviews ''improves'' wikipedia and [[WP:IAR]] certainly trumps any narrow reading of a guideline.

In addition, the purpose of escalating levels of warnings is to ensure that the (new) user is given an opportunity to understand any problems and modify behaviour. Jumping in with a threat of blocking so rapidly is very much a violation of [[WP:BITE]] in this case.

Now that multiple editors have disagreed with your assessment and actions, I now request that you strike the level 4 warning and revert your removal of these links. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 18:47, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Regarding this edit, why is it linkspam? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 16:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

View it in context with her other edits...60 odd additions of links to the same site...pure chopped pork shoulder meat. See also below. WuhWuzDat 18:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amanda.nelson12

I do not agree with you that links to interviews with the subjects of articles are necessarily linkspam, and have objected to your level 4 warning to her. She has asked at the help desk for further guidance. DuncanHill (talk) 16:23, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, can I recommend you withdraw the "Only Warning" you gave them? They seem to be acting constructively, so no reason to try chase them off the project.. --Taelus (talk) 16:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You may "recomend" all you want, but as an admin has agreed this was spamming I feel the warning should stand....60 odd additions of links to a specific site was spamming. WuhWuzDat 18:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He also agreed that the links were not spam, and that the material linked to is useful. I am sorry that you do not believe in supporting organizations such as the AIP which wish to help wikipedia editors and readers. DuncanHill (talk) 18:13, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is a difference between "Yes, they are spamming, and thats because they didn't know the rules" (The sort of thing a level 1 or 2 warning is for), and "Yes, they are spamming malciously and disrupting Wikipedia in bad faith." (The thing a level 4im warning gives.) --Taelus (talk) 18:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY towards all spammers..I treat em all the same. I'm just glad this came to a screeching halt, before she added all of her 500+ links. I was quite prepared to report her to WP:AIV as a promotion only account, if she had added even 1 additional link. Further discussion, short of a direct order from an admin, aimed at attempting to persuade me to remove this well deserved warning from the spammers talk page, is pointless. WuhWuzDat 18:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request to reconsider

I also disagree that the links provided were spam, and I also object to the level 4 warning given to the user.

This was not a case of multiple external links being added to one article, but of deep links being added to individual articles - each of which met WP:ELYES #3: Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks), or other reasons (my emphasis).

The WP:SPAM guideline is not prescriptive, and it is clear to me that the assumption that the user was adding links in order to promote the American Institute of Physics website is a violation of WP:AGF. Links to these interviews improves wikipedia and WP:IAR certainly trumps any narrow reading of a guideline.

In addition, the purpose of escalating levels of warnings is to ensure that the (new) user is given an opportunity to understand any problems and modify behaviour. Jumping in with a threat of blocking so rapidly is very much a violation of WP:BITE in this case.

Now that multiple editors have disagreed with your assessment and actions, I now request that you strike the level 4 warning and revert your removal of these links. --RexxS (talk) 18:47, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]