User talk:SarekOfVulcan

Please add new comments in new sections, e.g., by clicking here. Thanks. SarekOfVulcan

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Previous discussions:

• Archive 1 (January 16, 2005 to November 24, 2005):
• Archive 2 (November 27, 2005 to December 24, 2005):

Catholic

You're Catholic?????????????? Chooserr 00:25, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Yup. Used to be on the Liturgy Committee in college, and I'm an informal member of the choir at my church.--SarekOfVulcan 00:36, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

"The S&C hasn't been used in any Masonic ritual I've been a part of." You're a Mason too? Chooserr 00:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, and I'm not the only Catholic Mason I know: there was one in my lodge in Maine, and there another on the Wikipedia.--SarekOfVulcan 00:36, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

And I'm a 3rd degree Knight of Columbus, as well.--SarekOfVulcan 00:37, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

K of C

You asked -

Just curious, are you a Knight, or are you just interested in the subject?--SarekOfVulcan 22:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm a 3rd degree Knight myself....DonaNobisPacem 06:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure that we were coming at things from more or less the same angle. Now all I have to do is start attending meetings more regularly. :-) Hope I can do something about my busted car soon -- last time I took it in to be repaired, my mechanic advised me not to bother bringing it in again. :-)

I'm assuming you're close to Seattle, what with the Wikipedia meet info on your user page - I'm a west-coaster not far from Seattle myself! Just a wee bit North, in that frigid wasteland known as Canada......DonaNobisPacem 06:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Indeed? Maybe we'll meet sometime, then. :-) I've never been further up than Vancouver, though...--SarekOfVulcan 06:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps we shall! Anyways, I think I'm signing off for the holidays (yeah right - I've seen a couple hundred comments like that from users so far) - have a Merry Christmas, and I'm sure we'll argue over posts before the New Year!!!!DonaNobisPacem 06:54, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I look forward to it *grin* God bless, and Merry Christmas. --SarekOfVulcan 06:55, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy Christmas

I to understand that we have differences and admire you especially for being the one to step forth and wish me a Merry Christmas. So I will reply in kind, "Merry Christmas", and will try my best to remain kind. If we can work together (as I'm trying to do with Uthbrain) then it would probably eliminate most of the tension between us. Chooserr 05:26, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello?

You didn't really justify your revert, and I'm unsure as to why you did that for it is your third revert on the condoms page today. I stated that they are different substances or atleast that one may be generic and the other specific. Why else would they have different names?

Could you please reply on my talk page. Chooserr 02:24, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Illegality of condoms

Since I started the section, I was wondering if you might help in its expansion? I think it would be a valuable addition, but don't think I could do this all on my own because so many countries allow condoms and other forms of birth control. Chooserr 08:22, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Fairly accurate

[1] I take it you've never been to Barcelona? (If I used smileys, I'd put one here.) -- Jmabel | Talk 09:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Nope. Most exotic place I've been is old Quebec City.--SarekOfVulcan 09:41, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Catholic Alliance of wikipedia

Basically I just said that to try and prevent Tony from making more of an ass of himself, per average when there's anything for anything he's involved in(rfc,mfd,rfar,etc.). He's a good contributor outside of Metapedian issues, after I asked that, there was a nonstop string of delete votes, and when he did that, it was almost on consensus, so I hoped we could avoid some more foot stomping. My goal was to make sure the project participants would not see the process as railroaded and feel justified to recreate the thing. karmafist 00:40, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Really, you sure? I saw your sig on there. I can check again and bring the diff if you'd like, but i'm pretty sure it was you. Anyway, just wanted to explain what was going on just in case. karmafist 00:56, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

lol, yeah, heated topics usually get ugly, and the best thing to do is make sure you end it as soon as possible without it starting up again. I just wish Tony would admit that he's basically the thing he hates the most -- a rouge admin. karmafist 01:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

case closed

I would like to let you know that I consider case closed Was Jefferson a Mason, see also here [[2]] -- Bonaparte talk 08:01, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

University of Ottawa

No one seems to be stepping in to help out. Mr Sarek. Put your money where your mouth is. Ardenn 00:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, what did I miss? I couldn't find anything in search of UofO & Sarek, but I am prone to missing the obvious... Grye

Deleting an Image

Could you list Image:Nuns-Bru logo.jpg this image of mine for deletion. I don't know how. Chooserr 00:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Well thanks for your help. Chooserr 00:34, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

LOL!!!

I just saw your edit on latex clothing. Not so much your edit but the one before it with thumbnail descriptions like "Bianca Beauchamp in her latex catsuit and corset with exposed, soaking wet breasts." and "Bianca Beauchamp all wet and letting down her hair in her unzipped latex catsuit and corset."

I think fireman to go outside and get some fresh air haha --Mistress Selina Kyle ^{(Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉)} 17:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

depends.

some of the clubs in London REALLY wouldn't help I know that.. lol.. --Mistress Selina Kyle ^{(Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉)} 17:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I've noticed you've been stalking every edit I've ever made

Are you a sock puppet of Kmccoy? Please be honest. DyslexicEditor 10:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

166.66.16.116

Every one of this user's additions have been reverted...OK, yeah a lot by me, but a lot by other users too. Made the exact same edits the other day. Grye 05:00, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to delete this section when you've read it. Grye 05:06, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Merge & delete

Merging something into another article and then deleting the article it was merged from is not allowed by the GFDL. That's because the licence requires Wikipedia to display attributions for every edit. If content written by someone is pasted into another article without explicitly stating that in the edit summary (or somewhere) then it's essentially a copyvio. - ulayiti (talk) 22:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Help Me

Help me in writting the sypnosis of So You Want to be a Wizard

Abraham Lincoln - Debated Freemason

Hi Sarek,

I understand your reasoning for removing Lincoln from the Debated Freemasons section of the List of Freemasons page, but shouldn't there be someway of noting that he applied for membership and later withdrew. That was information I was glad to come across as I always wondered where Lincoln stood on the subject of Masonry. It would be nice to include the fact in the article somehow. Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks

Pgk's RFA

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Thanks for your support on my request for adminship.

The final outcome was (80/3/0), so I am now an administrator. I was flattered by the level of support and the comments, so I'm under real pressure not to disappoint, thus if you have any queries, suggestions or problems with any of my actions as an admin then please leave me a note --pgk^(talk) 10:41, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello

I put an honest question at the village pump and I don't understand you answer. I don't know the policy about pictures like that but believe I have seen one something like that deleted before. I tried to finish an afd on an article that did not google, AVN or imdb nothing Julian Adams (Porn star) but I could not form the vote page because it would not open. I already listed it on articles for

deletion so someone else with an account will have to finish it.--71.28.249.55 02:01, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Mercer Island

No, I am not on Mercer Island. I'm Californian. Clarinetplayer 03:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Knights and the Lodge, a proposal

I've put a proposal about the KofC and Masons article. Please have a look. God Bless. --JASpencer 23:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Fact

Thanks for informing me that you put my article up for deletion - Chooserr 05:24, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Figured you'd probably have the courtesy to do the same, if the situation came up...--SarekOfVulcan 05:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Right I would - Chooserr 01:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

The Public Office Category

Eh, somebody deleted it awhile ago. Feel free to recreate it if you'd like, I'd bet there are more than a few of us on here now if we look. What did you run for? Karmafist 02:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Town Council in Orono, Maine. 6th out of 6 with 15% of the vote. (It was a vote-for-three election, if I remember correctly.)--SarekOfVulcan 02:30, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Ouch. Then again, I understand how you feel. I finished 14th out of 16 in Hillsborough 19's State Rep race during the 2004 New Hampshire General Court Election(that article there is a work in progress), as well as finishing 23rd out of 27 for a special election in June 2005 to become a member of a board that would be creating a new charter to put forth to the voters this April(which will likely fail). Heh, I'm likely to run for something this April too, there's two Selectman spots open, and the people running are fairly unpopular. I personally don't think i'm ready, but who ever is, you know? One of these days i'll win one, I finally won one on Wikipedia just a few weeks ago at Esperanza, but that's been disappointing so far. Karmafist 02:49, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Democracy & Nature

This page is such a long-term pain in the arse I a) can't blame other people for staying away, and b) can't believe that you've kpet up the slog. You've got some stamina, that's for sure.

Here's my advice: Change the reference style to footnotes, eliminate all but one of the external links. You'll almost certainly get rolled back, but don't revert the page again. That anon has already reverted three times, but his talk page is still red. Leave him a warning about 3RR and if he reverts again report him at 3RR. Also you can ssk for semi-protection, and definitely open a request for comment. Once the page isn't subject ot contstant reversion and edit wars, then there will be space to try and get the text right.

brenneman^(t)(c) 00:51, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

PS - I've decided to make some changes myself, but all the rest of the above is still valid, I'm just too lazy to re-write it.

Thanks! I opened a Politics RFC earlier, and knew that I had hit my 3rd revert already. Since this isn't clear-cut vandalism, I don't have a get-out-of-jail-free card. :-) SProtect would be nice here -- we know who's doing the edits, pretty much, but at least this would require them to put their name on it.--SarekOfVulcan 00:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I haven't "kept up" the slog -- I was ignoring it for a while, but ended up dragging myself back in. --SarekOfVulcan 00:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Democracy & Nature²

I've seen that you are editing D&N's entry by adding extra information about Bookchin and Castoriadis (more accurately, reproducing information of Paul Cardan, who proved to be using many usernames in order to influence or delete wikipedia entries about Inclusive Democracy). I think that this is unfair against all the other contributors of the journal, especially those that are equally important and notable. Furthermore, it gives the wrong "signal" because it reproduces a misleading picture about D&N, namely that it was just a journal around (or about) Castoriadis' and Bookchin's work. The truth is, contrary, that the journal was very original, something that led Bookchin to resignation and Castoriadis in a tactic of not providing original texts of him to the journal, but only republications. I hope you will consider this. --TheVel 01:03, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your immediate response. Do you think that all this information needs incorporation? It's more like tittle-tattle or chattering and not important information. And it would be like a discussion between editors inside an entry. I will think about it though. Why don't you try, since you found the above summary interesting, to incorporate it? --TheVel 01:15, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Democracy & Nature³

It will be appreciated if users SarekOfVulcan and Aaron Brenneman could let everybody know how they are so sure about the role of Bookchin and Castoriadis with respect to the history of D&N. As they have no primary information on the matter it is obvious that they base their actions on the distorted information of the proved sockpuppet Paulcardan. Have they read the discussion page of D&N in which the 'arguments' of Paulcardan have beem shown to be malicious and false, one by one? Have they any alternative information to prove the opposite? If not, then they break the WP rule of Neutral point of view and if they ban me for supporting the present view, without producing a shred of evidence on why they wish to add these two paragraphs, despite the fact that in the Introduction I put links to the debates with Bookchin and Castoriadis, they simply show once more their own bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.43.88 (talk • contribs)

Ohh yeah, the fun never stops, eh? Anyway, I've done a massive re-write. I'm sure it won't stick, and I do have concernsabout including anything other than Wikipedia:Reliable sources as a reference. However in light of the unceasing bad behavior, willful ignorance of most of our community codes of conduct and frightful wiki-lawyering, I'm happy to let that issue ride. Once there is some stability to the article it can always be improved. - brenneman^(t)(c) 02:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

3rvt

I've read into the rule if not very thoroughly, but have realised that it is a limit and not an entitlement. I just don't go over the limit. Chooserr 06:10, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters

Any chance I could sway your vote to support. I agree that the edit summary you point to could be better; but other than a very small number of things from nine months ago that some other voters point out, I believe my edit history has been consistently professional and productive. The one edit comment you point to was snippy, but it wasn't snippy out of the immediate edit, but more about a recent series of changes by a POV-mongering editor I was responding to. Yeah... I still should have been more detached and professional in that case, but it wasn't that bad even so.

Beyond that, is there anything I could do to better reassure your concerns, and make you able to support my RfA nomination? Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 17:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)