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Welcome!

Hello Folajimi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! -- ElBenevolente 04:09, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Anderson

Take a look at Jack Ryan for what you'll probably want to do here. If there are a list of different people with the same name (being similarly notable), the article for the name should point to the different people. Take a look at Wikipedia:Disambiguation and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation_pages) for the gory details. -- ElBenevolente 04:33, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The disamibuation page you've created for Ryan Anderson looks pretty good right now. I'd keep Ryan Anderson (traitor) for the article title, and redirect Ryan G. Anderson to the traitor article. -- ElBenevolente 05:19, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think "Ryan G. Anderson" would be a more natural way to disambiguate "Ryan Anderson". For one thing, as far as I can tell from the article, the guy wasn't convicted--or even charged--with treason.

—wwoods 01:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. "I suspect that such an effort might require action from a Wikipede with admin rights to make the move..." Yup. As it happens, I am such a person. —wwoods 03:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

William Ryan

William Ryan looks good now. User:Mpearl moved all the links to the numerous William Ryans onto the William Ryan page. Keep up the good work, Wikipedia is certainly a work in progress! -- ElBenevolente 00:18, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Common names

For names like Will, Bill, Willy, Billy, the proper convention to use is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common_names). In other words, you should use the common name, that is the name that the person is best known for. ElBenevolente 03:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Forkner

I've removed the tag from Adam Forkner. The musicians of Yume Bitsu should surpass these requirements. I'm off for a few days, enjoy! -- ElBenevolente 05:30, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The warning about seizures seems appropriate for the external link. Regarding your edits to John Fitz-Gerald, make sure that your article clearly establishes notability. The article was deleted by the A7 clause of Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion. If you recreate it, try to establish importance so it won't get speedy deleted next time. -- ElBenevolente 23:48, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Forkner is looking good! It's clearly not a stub. We still have the issue of the images you uploaded. Those that are clearly for media publicity should be good. For the other ones you have a few options - fair use should allow you to reproduce CD covers if you have any. I think images really add to wikipedia, but you have to keep in compliance with all the copyright laws. Another option is writing email to the relevant people and asking for permission to use images in wikipedia. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 04:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More fun with disambiguation

Good question about how to handle South (band)... For now, I would create the article on the American band as South (US band). Eventually, you'll probably want to make South (band) a disambiguation page and move the UK band to a distinct page. But for now I'd just create the article on the American band and make sure to establish notability per WP:Music. If there is a second US band named south that is notable enough, you'd probably want to rename the articles something like South (Whatever state band), and link them on the South (band) page. Just use your good judgement! -- ElBenevolente 16:45, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Bennett looks fine! -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 20:12, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation and avoiding speedy deletion

My best advice for you is to be bold! Using the disamiguation policy as a guide, and create any relevant disamig pages and articles. Wikipedia is very flexible and self-correcting, so just use the policy as a guideline and create articles. The community, as well as yourself, can make improvements as time goes on.

To avoid speedy deletion, make sure your new articles comply with WP:Music or WP:Bio guidelines and express notability as much as possible. If you feel a music-related article was wrongly speedy deleted, then I would recreate it and emphasize the history of the band or musician, include a discography, and include any information about collaborations -- then the article will not be a candidate for speedy deletion. I would also add a discography to the M.O.T.O. article when you can, to show that the band has a number of albums produced on indie labels. -- ElBenevolente 20:18, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Burton

'Dan Burton (politician)' or 'Dan Burton (U.S. Congressman)' would probably be most appropriate place to move the 'Dan Burton' page. I've seen both used before for members of the House. Politician may have a negative connotation, so moving it to (Congressman) or (U.S. Congressman) may be preferable. If you move it, make sure to move the plethora of inbound links. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 02:56, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Technical limitations

There are a few characters that cannot appear in a page title, and + is one of them. Take a look at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical_restrictions) for how to handle this. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 05:46, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Me'Shell NdegéOcello page move

Before moving the page, I'd quickly propose the move on the talk page first. I doubt this would be a controversial move, but its a good idea to get consensus before moving anything around. It also looks like the article will have to be rewritten to use the accented spelling. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 19:50, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No faux pas at all, that's what talk pages are for! Regarding how much time to allow for discussion on the talk page, I'd give it a week or so to see if anyone objects. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 20:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

E-mail

To send me an email, go to my talk page and click on "E-mail this user" from the toolbox in the left hand panel. Thanks. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 21:24, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use and signatures

Publicity photos probably fall under fair use - take a look at Wikipedia:Publicity photos for the details of what can be used. Changing your signature is fairly simple; just go to "my preferences" and put something like:

[[User:Example|Example]][[User talk:Example|(talk)]]

for your nickname, and select "raw signatures". You can use the sandbox and the preview function to test your new signature. If you run into problems, check out Wikipedia:How to fix your signature -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 03:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlists and article submissions

I've not experienced the watchlist issue you're seeing, it could be a bug in the Mediawiki software. I doubt anything else would be going on. There are no limits regarding the number of articles or edits you can have during a day, so you're welcome to create as many articles as you feel like, keeping in mind the various Wikipedia guidelines (WP:MUSIC, WP:BIO, WP:CORP, etc).

If you sign your message with four ~'s, the date should show up after your signature. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 06:20, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Subject's Acting

In response to your question, the performances of an actor are, in every case that I have seen, included in the article/stub with the actor. --Emersoni 21:40, 29 December 2005 (UTC)Emersoni 21:40 December 29, 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bright

Once you've made Bright (band), I'd probably move Bright to Bright (noun) and make a disamiguation page on Bright. The usual disclaimers apply: WP:MUSIC and fixing inbound links (article links will probably be sufficient in this case). -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 03:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Edit conflicts

Edit conflicts happen from time to time. It isn't too uncommon for an editor to quickly edit a newly created page to insert a stub template, various categories, speedy deletion notice, or something of the sort. I wouldn't be too concerned with it. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 00:33, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stubs, signatures

Robert Alexander (general) is no longer a stub -- I've removed the stub notice and placed the wikify template on the page. It certainly needs to be cleaned up. Regarding the three Moser-Sachs articles: since they all seem to have the same content using redirects would make sense. I'd find which name is the most common way to refer to him, and redirect the other ones there.

I'm not sure why you're having problems with your signature. Under "my preferences", I have exactly the following:

[[User:ElBenevolente|ElBenevolente]][[User talk:ElBenevolente|(talk)]]

with "raw signatures" enabled. When I sign my messages with four ~'s, it seems to leave the timestamp correct. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 21:01, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Here seemed a good place to respond. For my signature, the code I use is

[[User:GeeJo|<font style="padding : 0px 1px 1px 1px; border : 1px solid #809EF5; background: #FFFFFF ; color: #809EF5">GeeJo</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:GeeJo|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/GeeJo|(c)]]</sub><small>•</small>

with raw signatures enabled, this produces GeeJo _{(t) (c)} • . For the date, I use

 ~~~~~

So overall I type ~~~ ~~~~~ when signing posts. This produces GeeJo _{(t) (c)} • 21:58, 31 December 2005 (UTC). You're welcome to use any, all, or none of the code if you want.[reply]

Martin Moser

Aloha! As to my comments about good faith, see Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Basically it looked like someone had copy-pasted the article from another encyclopedia, but since a quick google search didnt show anything matching it, I assumed the author was simply trying to present the article in typical encyclopedia format, rather than having lifted it from a print source. Hence the {{wikify}} tag. Regarding responsibility, since you moved the article, the history was maintained - so I could see it wasnt you who created the article anyways, but rather 80.123.151.230. Happy new year! GeeJo _{(t) (c)} • 21:28, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Some of the images you uploaded might not live up to Wikipedia:Fair Use. I'll take a look in depth tomorrow and let you know. The ones that are clearly publicity photos should be fine. Getting images on Wikipedia can be tricky... ElBenevolente^(talk) 06:15, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

South (U.S. band)

Hi, thanks for the comment. It's not that I personally think there's anything wrong with the article, but many articles about bands eventually get nominated for deletion if they don't meet one of the requiremenets listed in the guideline WP:MUSIC. So if you know that their album charted or the band received mainstream media attention or something, you should mention that on the article. And it's probably better to leave the tag on so that people know to improve the article until it's clear if it qualifies per the guideline. - Bobet 18:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it looks like a good sized stub article that does assert notability to a degree so I removed the {{music-importance}} tag. I hope no one else will feel the need to disagree. - Bobet 23:32, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

South, Bryan Hoffa, Signatures, Images

Greetings! South (U.S. band) looks good so far. Regarding Bryan Hoffa, is there a way you could add an article to a references section? It is good to cite sources, but you can go overboard. I'm not sure what's best in this case... For your signature, what happens when you sign with ~~~~? That's all I do for my signature.

Now to the images... The relevant places to look for official policy are Wikipedia:Publicity photos and Wikipedia:Fair_use#Images. In general, you can only use images of people that have been placed in the public domain, or are specifically meant to be used for publicity. However, fair use would allow you to take an image of an album or CD cover, and place that in Wikipedia. Screen shots from TV or video should also be acceptable. But unless an image is meant to be a publicity photo, it probably isn't good to use. ElBenevolente^(talk) 01:58, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any images you've uploaded without confirmed copyright status should be deleted within a week. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 01:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandru Xenopol

Take a look at the change I made to Alexandru_Dimitrie_Xenopol - adding links to other language wikipedia articles works like that. -- ElBenevolente^(talk) 20:14, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bryan Hoffa tag

Any reference or source that provides evidence that Bryan Hoffa was a sound engineer who has worked with Camper Van Beethoven, Cracker, Carbon Leaf, Patrick Phelan, South, Tanakh, The Saints or Neil Hagerty & The Howling Hex would do the trick. At the moment the article only asserts this as truth, but the claims needs to be verifiable. I notice you provided a link to the Sound of Music Studios, but unfortunately that site doesn't seem to provide confirmation of Hoffa's involvement in the studios (unless I missed something, of course). Regards, Sliggy 12:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Digging a bit further, I notice the Sound of Music Studios' myspace site does mention Hoffa, which is a positive. Sliggy 13:00, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The tag indicates my opinion is that the article should back its claims with verifiable source(s). I was noting that the above site provides some evidence for one of the claims in the article. Sliggy 22:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are no source(s) for the claims regarding Camper Van Beethoven, Cracker, Carbon Leaf, Patrick Phelan, South, Tanakh, The Saints or Neil Hagerty & The Howling Hex at the moment, and myspace web pages don't generaaly form adequately verified sources. Sliggy 22:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'd chuck the link into an 'External links' section. However, I do notice that the AMG entry is for a "Brian Hoffer", but the article is about "Bryan Hoffer", you might want to include a quick note on the homonym. It goes a long way to providing source material. Any more sources available? Sliggy 23:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, be bold and put the link in then! Sliggy 23:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your efforts. Cheers, Sliggy 13:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

amg links

To get them to format properly, just use the template {{amg}}. Instructions for using it are on the template's talk page at Template talk:Allmusicguide. - Bobet 02:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Working group" wikifications

Please take care when setting up internal links to "working group"; "Working Group" goes to a disambiguation page, and "working groups" causes a redirect. I see you are going through a significant number of articles and setting up this link, so please be sure to format the link as [[working group]]s (with the "s" on the outside of the brackets) if you want to make a plural. It will look the same, but will avoid the redirect. I've gone through a few to correct them, but I wanted to give you a heads up to try to nip the problem in the bud in case you have a few hundred more to go through. Thanks very much for your work, and happy editing! Kafziel 20:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, but the title of the page is singular so the plural form has to go through an automatic redirect page before it can get to the correct title. It's really just a matter of trying not to tax the system too much. If you put the s outside the brackets, it will still look blue like the rest of the word, but the link will go straight to the article.

As you can see, both of these look the same, but if you click on working groups (correct format) and working groups (incorrect) you can see the difference: the little note under the title that says "redirected from...".

Also, if you want to capitalize the whole thing, put [[Working group|Working Group]] so it goes to the right page.

Hope that clears it up. Thanks again. - Kafziel 20:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's no problem at all. I have gone through and fixed quite a few, and you formatted a lot of them correctly anyway. Thanks for all your effort. Kafziel 21:04, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to delete the redirect pages themselves; those are good to have, for the next time someone formats a link the same way, or in case someone searches for the plural form. It's okay to have them sitting out there, it's just better not to use them in the articles if we don't have to. Kafziel 21:07, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Glad I could help; that's why I'm here. Great job on the articles! Happy editing! Kafziel 17:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Takashi Hasegawa and why I nominated the article for deletion

Depends what you mean.. personal reasons? none whatsoever. don't know him, never met him, never used his program, never heard of his program etc... I care as much about this guy as I do about the man on the moon. Wikipedic reasons? There is no indication from the entry that he is truly "notable" which is the basic requirement for an individual to have a separate page on wikipedia. Writing an application, being a university grad or working for Hitachi does not automatically make someone notable. This does not mean that his inventions / collaborations are not notable - if they are (I have not participated in discussions on any of them) then it might be appropriate to include info about him there - rather than the other way round. Think how many computer programmers out there think they have created something special... millions. If you have information that is not in the article, now would be the time to add it and enhance the chances of the page being retained. As it stands, the article is a very short, uninformative biography of a computer programmer who wrote some code in 1998. A quick look at Wikipedia:Notability_(people) will show you that this falls a long way short of what is expected.

Would people expect to find information about this guy in an encyclopedia? Computer programmers do not deserve to be in wikipedia simply because it is a web-based entity. The practice of analysing "google hits" is also slanted with programmers which makes it necessary to give closer analysis to other factors.

The reason I nominate any article for deletion is because i agree with the principles of wikipedia and think that it's helpful to uphold and enforce them. You can find out a lot more about the pillars of wikipedia from the links at the top of this page. Hope that clears things up. --Deiz 20:13, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet.. I'd love it if everyone could have an entry too... but I guess that's called having a user page or a blog... take it easy --Deiz 20:20, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Spoken Wikipedia on Nightwish

Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me how long spoken articles have been available for Wikipedia? Folajimi^(talk)

Well, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia was created on 2005-04-12, if that helps. ~MDD 46 96 22:02, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SVG edit question.

No, I am not aware if the GIMP developers ever made such claims. I have made the edits based on my own experiences: The GIMP can import SVG files, but I have not been able to export (or save as) SVG. Jeff schiller 19:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Sup Folajimi, well, yes, the GIMP does import AND export SVG's. The export function is well-hidden, on the other hand. See Talk:Scalable_Vector_Graphics if you want to see my explanation of how to do it. 68.100.68.23 04:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Acid Test inquiry.

Hi, I noticed that Catapult updated the Acid Test page to correct an oversight on my part. Thanks! Folajimi 03:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)^(talk)[reply]

Just out of curiosity, does the bot also watch for vandalism??? Folajimi 03:04, 19 January 2006 (UTC)^(talk)[reply]

You're welcome, but I just realized the article for the band itself doesn't seem to exist. If they aren't notable enough for an article, they shouldn't be listed on the disambiguation page either. Do you plan to write an article? As for watching for vandalism, no, it's not that smart yet. Maybe sometime in the future. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 03:24, Jan. 19, 2006

Well, what can I say? They look like stubs, of course, lol. I'm not sure I understand the question. As for "Acid Test", I was merely updating everything that linked to the disambiguation page "rock" to point to a better target. This should not be interpreted as interest in the topics of the articles being updated by my bot. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 15:24, Jan. 20, 2006

Re. 411 on Henry Taub revision.

Hi,

I noticed that you recently did a revert on an edit to the Henry Taub article. It seemed like the edit you reverted was vandalism. Yet, you were cordial and even took the time to talk to an IP??? What's that all about??? Just curious, is all... Folajimi 02:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)(talk)

Sine it was the first edit from that IP address, I was assuming that it was a "do they really let any random web sufer like me edit?" test edit. It only takes a few seconds to drop {{test}} on a user talk page, and by giving advice on how to edit it helps prevent biting newcomers. -- AJR | Talk 16:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re: Joshua Ortega

Adding template messages to articles (like "stub") will draw different editors working on different projects to the article. I was working on stub-sorting, which is changing simple "stub" tags to more specific ones like "US-author-stub". I often just change the stub to a more appropriate one, ignoring other issues.

In the case of the Joshua Ortega page, when I got there it looked pretty comprehensive, so I removed the stub (I may have been wrong, but I've certainly seen shorter, less detailed articles without it). As you pointed out, it wasn't in any categories. I don't know much about categories, so I added the "uncategorized" tag to the bottom of the page, which should draw people working on that.

And for the record, I haven't been here as long as you, I just got into stub-sorting and have a pretty good feel for it after sorting a whole bunch. Thanks for dropping me a line. - Dharmabum420 22:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Chrissplash.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Chrissplash.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images on Wikipedia is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. You can get help on image copyright tagging from Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags. --OrphanBot 02:27, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eugène Soubeiran

Hello,

According to the sources, the content is correct. I would also try to find more references to complete this stub. Cheers, Korg (talk) 05:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NSIDC edit

It's not as obvious as the "joey is gay" sort, but we're seeing an increase in subtle vandalism, in this case adding mystifying junk to the text. For nonobvious edits, the anon needs to describe in the edit summary or talk page, otherwise blam. Stan 01:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

Hi. You asked, Today, I stumbled onto this WP page and was wondering how that really works. Can you reconcile those remarks with the action known as "speedy deletions?"

These may be of interest: Wikipedia:Speedy deletions, Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, Wikipedia:Deletion guidelines for administrators. I haven't gotten deeply involved in the subject myself. Thus far, I've just used deletion to move articles. For instance deleting the old "Ryan G. Anderson", which was just a redirect with no significant history, to make room for the article on the guy.

—wwoods 07:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User page editing

While I appreciate the interest, I'll edit my user page myself, thank you. (Some people really really hate that, so be aware.) Why don't you make a user page of your own? Stan 13:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interface inheritance

I did a quick cleanup. Dynamic programming isn't what you think it is: it's a kind of algorithm, like Dijkstra's algorithm and the solution to the knapsack problem. I made the definition more general, but it might not be what you like. I'd leave it broad, though, because people use interface inheritance in Python without any specific machinery. What the page needs now is an example and perhaps a formal model, and then it's golden! --Mgreenbe 16:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! C++ interface inheritance is generally through pure virtual functions. This, however, isn't the STL approach: it uses agreed upon interfaces rather than virtual base classes. This is necessary because one needs to be able to treat a pointer as an iterator. --Mgreenbe 17:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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	I did a quick cleanup. [[Dynamic programming]] isn't what you think it is: it's a kind of algorithm, like [[Dijkstra's algorithm]] and the solution to the [[knapsack problem]]. I made the definition more general, but it might not be what you like. I'd leave it broad, though, because people use interface inheritance in Python without any specific machinery. What the page needs now is an example and perhaps a formal model, and then it's golden! --[[User:Mgreenbe\|Mgreenbe]] 16:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)		I did a quick cleanup. [[Dynamic programming]] isn't what you think it is: it's a kind of algorithm, like [[Dijkstra's algorithm]] and the solution to the [[knapsack problem]]. I made the definition more general, but it might not be what you like. I'd leave it broad, though, because people use interface inheritance in Python without any specific machinery. What the page needs now is an example and perhaps a formal model, and then it's golden! --[[User:Mgreenbe\|Mgreenbe]] 16:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Sure! C++ interface inheritance is generally through pure [[virtual function]]s. This, however, isn't the [[Standard Template Library\|STL]] approach: it uses agreed upon interfaces rather than virtual base classes. This is necessary because one needs to be able to treat a pointer as an iterator. --[[User:Mgreenbe\|Mgreenbe]] 17:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)