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Richard J H Matthews

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NN person, with few Google hits CTJF83 chat 07:56, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. -gadfium 09:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The subject is a classical scholar in a rather arcane area which google does not cover well and he published before google became important. Anyway, why should google be the arbiter of what is or is not notable or important? It is just one of the factors to be considered. The subject is certainly important in three particular areas: classical studies in New Zealand, New Zealand literature influenced by the classics and the study of Hellenic poetry. I think this article should be retained for further development.Rick570 (talk) 10:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well Google is the easiest way to find out if someone has WP:Significant coverage, if you can show that by other mediums, please link us. CTJF83 chat 16:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - seems to be a little bit below the criteria - SimonLyall (talk) 10:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - does not seem particularly, or even sufficiently, notable. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 10:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Does not meet WP:ACADEMIC guidelines. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 20:11, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
retain. This person is not an academic, i.e holding an academic position in a university or similar. He is an independent classical scholar who has published on various matters in his field. He has a status in his field of endeavour. I am surprised that you are making such a big deal about this person when the hurdle in other areas are so low, like sport or popular music, for example. Why such an issue about this person, who is certainly notable in his field, just as certain otherwise obscure sports persons may be in theirs. To confine consideration to the internet is too narrow. It excludes so many people. I am researching other material, but it will take longer than a week to access it.Rick570 (talk) 23:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete'''. Does not meet [[WP:ACADEMIC]] guidelines. -- [[User:Alan Liefting|Alan Liefting]] ([[User_talk:Alan_Liefting|talk]]) - 20:11, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
+* '''retain'''. This person is not an academic, i.e holding an academic position in a university or similar. He is an independent classical scholar who has published on various matters in his field. He has a status in his field of endeavour. I am surprised that you are making such a big deal about this person when the hurdle in other areas are so low, like sport or popular music, for example. Why such an issue about this person, who is certainly notable in his field, just as  certain otherwise obscure sports persons may be in theirs. To confine consideration to the internet is too narrow. It excludes so many people. I am researching other material, but it will take longer than a week to access it.[[User:Rick570|Rick570]] ([[User talk:Rick570|talk]]) 23:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)