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::::I have none reliable source,my edit based on Japanese wiki,if wrong,just move it.--[[User:星光下的人|星光下的人]] ([[User talk:星光下的人|talk]]) 01:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC) |
::::I have none reliable source,my edit based on Japanese wiki,if wrong,just move it.--[[User:星光下的人|星光下的人]] ([[User talk:星光下的人|talk]]) 01:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC) |
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{{outdent}}[[User:星光下的人|星光下的人]] -- Perhaps you misunderstand my question. I was not asking about your intent. Instead, shouldn't we work together to mitigate the ways in which a reader is likely to struggle with this graphic?<p>For example, [[Ashikaga Yoshimasa|Shogun Yoshimasa]] was succeeded by [[Ashikaga Yoshihisa|Shogun Yoshihisa]] (Yoshimasa's natural son), then by [[Ashikaga Yoshitane|Shogun Yoshitane]] (Yoshimasa's first adopted son), and then by [[Ashikaga Yoshizumi|Shogun Yoshizumi]] (Yoshimasa's second adopted son). The Ashikaga relationships are not easy or obvious. What level of detail is better or best? --[[User:Tenmei|Tenmei]] ([[User talk:Tenmei|talk]]) 04:34, 28 June 2011 (UTC) |
{{outdent}}[[User:星光下的人|星光下的人]] -- Perhaps you misunderstand my question. I was not asking about your intent. Instead, shouldn't we work together to mitigate the ways in which a reader is likely to struggle with this graphic?<p>For example, [[Ashikaga Yoshimasa|Shogun Yoshimasa]] was succeeded by [[Ashikaga Yoshihisa|Shogun Yoshihisa]] (Yoshimasa's natural son), then by [[Ashikaga Yoshitane|Shogun Yoshitane]] (Yoshimasa's first adopted son), and then by [[Ashikaga Yoshizumi|Shogun Yoshizumi]] (Yoshimasa's second adopted son). The Ashikaga relationships are not easy or obvious. What level of detail is better or best? --[[User:Tenmei|Tenmei]] ([[User talk:Tenmei|talk]]) 04:34, 28 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Sorry, I don't know what your meaning......Say another way,plz? |
:::::Sorry, I don't know what your meaning......Say another way,plz?--[[User:星光下的人|星光下的人]] ([[User talk:星光下的人|talk]]) 07:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Reference source
The format of this version of the family tree here was modified from a "pedigree" chart in Ackroyd's translation of Tokushi Yoron (p.298); however, Ackroyd only included 14 shoguns -- not 15. This causes me to recognize a plausible problem having to do with the inclusion of Ashikaga Yoshiteru's brother, Ashikaga Yoshiaki. Which is the better choice?
- Ackroyd, Joyce. (1982) Lessons from History: The Tokushi Yoron. Brisbane: University of Queensland Press. 10-ISBN 070221485X/13-ISBN 9780702214851; OCLC 7574544
This seemed like the reasonable place to raise this modest question about the template? --Tenmei (talk) 13:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Explaining changes
- Explaining changes
- 星光下的人 -- Your format changes are significant. Your edit introduces several innovative differences in this graphic overview of the familial and dynastic relationships. Our ability to interpret and evaluate your work here would be helped by citing its source.
Please explain the specific reasons for the changes you have made. For example, please clarify how the dotted-lines should be construed in this revised family tree.
See also User talk:星光下的人#Explaining changes. --Tenmei (talk) 14:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- dotted-lines means 養子(ようし),same use to the revision before my edit.——星光下的人 (talk) 22:28, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- You misunderstand my question about the dotted lines. Let's agree to set it aside for the moment. We can return to it after a preliminary issue is resolved.
Please identify the reliable source which is the basis for your edits? --Tenmei (talk) 01:03, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have none reliable source,my edit based on Japanese wiki,if wrong,just move it.--星光下的人 (talk) 01:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- You misunderstand my question about the dotted lines. Let's agree to set it aside for the moment. We can return to it after a preliminary issue is resolved.
- dotted-lines means 養子(ようし),same use to the revision before my edit.——星光下的人 (talk) 22:28, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
星光下的人 -- Perhaps you misunderstand my question. I was not asking about your intent. Instead, shouldn't we work together to mitigate the ways in which a reader is likely to struggle with this graphic?
For example, Shogun Yoshimasa was succeeded by Shogun Yoshihisa (Yoshimasa's natural son), then by Shogun Yoshitane (Yoshimasa's first adopted son), and then by Shogun Yoshizumi (Yoshimasa's second adopted son). The Ashikaga relationships are not easy or obvious. What level of detail is better or best? --Tenmei (talk) 04:34, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't know what your meaning......Say another way,plz?--星光下的人 (talk) 07:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC)