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Jaume Cañellas Galindo

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No sources given. I couln't find any of the "Given work" in any library. It seems autopromotion (when a reference about being Save the Children's ambassor, Jaume Cañellas himself uploaded in causes.com a scanned document). He pretends to be a figure in psychiatry, but it's hard or even impossible to find one reference (excluding autoreferences, Facebook, linkedin, ...) in Internet about him. Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 23:25, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. He has done a great job in the defense of this specialty of psychiatry of children and adolescents over many years. As the driving force behind the platform of specialty was in Spain, it appears the Government has agreed to formally establishing the year 2010.

The Dr. Jaume Cañellas Galindo is one of the few experts on Child and adolescent psychiatry, with the official certificate approved by the European Union, who practices in Spain.

He was the creator and responsible for many institutions of Psychiatry and "Psicoperinatología" both in Spain and France. Is a reference for Hispano-americans psychiatrists. In your country (Spain) is consulted by the media in many cases of forensic criminology.

His writings are open to anyone on the Internet without censorship on their part. He´s working in numerous associations, portals and specialized pages nonprofit. Thus his writings on paper have been limited editions and have been exhausted quickly. In his own words "inform and educate is a right and an obligation we all have internet and thus should be free and democratically open to all."

He was named Ambassador for Save the Children Spain in late 2010 and can verify it turning up on the headquarters of Save the Children Spain = Save the Children Spain, Plaza Puerto Rubio n º 28, 28053 Madrid CP / Ms Marisol - Responsible for Social Mobilization.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gumerperu (talk • contribs) 14:04, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gumerperu (talk • contribs) 07:37, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~. Dr. Jaume Cañellas Galindo is a reference for hispano-americans psychiatrists. Gumersindoperu 14:36, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vote struck: user is confirmed sockpuppet of Gumerperu, who has already !voted above. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Relevant psychiatrist for the hispano-american citizens in the world. ~~Rosamdcp~~ 20:50, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Comment actually by User:46.253.39.254, per this diff. This IP has !voted multiple times; struck multiple !votes below. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There are ~~plenty of~~ more sources available if you search without the "Galindo", which is presumably his mother's maiden name and usually omitted in Spanish naming customs. Pburka (talk) 15:04, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope there are better sources than the ones given by Gumerperu. Some of them are not relevant (most voted specialist in a commercial web page with... 9 votes!, support in a cause's support page, ...). Some other are in local newspapers, which do not talk about him, but he is just quoted as a specialist, or he talks as a representative of an association. Is there any reliable source which talks about his work, his contributions to psychiatry, about his great achievements? Why the main writer of this article is not able to give a single reference of his claimed work?--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 20:12, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I meant to say "more sources". I'm not taking a position on his notability at this time, largely because the sources on Google news are all in Spanish. Pburka (talk) 23:42, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~. Article about one of the best Child and adolescent psychiatrists of the hispanic world. ~~Rocio2008~~ 02:37, 01 November 2011 (UTC)

Comment actually by User:46.253.39.254, per this diff. As this IP has already !voted above, I have struck this. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~. References have been verified. Gumerperu 21:58, 01 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vote struck: user Gumerperu has already !voted above. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Gumerperu and Gumersindoperu seem to be the same user, and this contribution and this contribution are made from the same IP. Isn't it sock-puppetry? It is also worth to remark that all these users have contributed mainly only in this very article. Besides, the article in Catalan Wikipedia (where the references in Spanish can be read and well understood) this article has been deleted for "autopromotion" (exaggerating CV...). --Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 17:37, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The Dr. Cañellas is not a "catalan nationalist ", is a spanish psychiatrist and the struggle for human rights without nationalist independence ideas. He is persecuted and slandered by some "catalan nationalists" who try to discredit and have deleted the article of the "Catalan Wikipedia" [[1]]. - But this article it is being advocated by citizens of the hispanic-american world. Rocio2008 02:12, 03 November 2011 (UTC)

Nowhere in any discussion no one has talked about politics. By the way, I didn't know about his position about nationalism, but it does not confer him nor challenges his relevance. --Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 13:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It's a relevant article and is also referenced. ~~Rosamdcp~~ 19:42, 02 November 2011 (UTC)

Comment actually by User:46.253.39.254, per this diff. As this IP has already !voted above, I have struck this. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another comment: I've opened a request for sockpuppet investigation after seeing that all the keep-votes are given by the same 2 users and 1 ip.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 13:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolution of the sockpuppet investigation: Gumerperu and Gumersindoperu are indeed the same user and they both have been blocked (1 week / indefinite, resp.). I don't know if Gumerperu can now answer here. I suppose not, and (as Gumerperu is the main editor of this article) it should be taken in account before closing this request.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 14:04, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't be surprised if the IP which has been voting using crosswiki signatures was the same as the sockers, given this diff and others where they appear to edit one another's comments/signatures. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:30, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I also pointed it out in the request for sockpuppet investigation, but it was told me that, for privacy reasons, no connection between IPs and users could be done. In particular, it was told me: "in a case like that, the reviewing admin will use behavioral evidence to take (or decline to take) action against the IP". --Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 13:16, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The IP 46.253.39.254 seem to be owned by a company from Cornellà del Terri (Girona). The IPs 81.25.123.133 and 81.25.123.153, which have been used to modify Gumerperu's personal page, as well as Jauma Cañellas' article, seems to be from Fornells de la Selva (Girona), 23 kms away from Cornellà del Terri. And, what's between this two places? Girona city, precisely the city where Jaume Cañellas works.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 14:04, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's important that we resist the temptation to imply that the sockpuppeteer is the article subject himself -- it could be an admiring relative, student, or colleague. (In fact, if I really wanted to embarrass someone I might do exactly what the socks are doing here!) But it's still sockpuppetry, of course. My recollection (correct me if I'm wrong) is that contributions by sockpeppeteer and sockpuppets alike are subject to striking, so I've done that. EEng (talk) 02:47, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I didn't want to mean that the sockpuppeter is the article subject himself, but -considering the geographical relations-, it could be a close relative or friend. I don't know if there exists such a rule about striking contributions by sockpuppeters. In this case, there are still some more contributions that should be stricken.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 12:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:09, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment. More participation from non-socks is needed here. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:11, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The article is autopromotion, and lacks reliable sources. DinosaurDan (talk) 01:03, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Article about a great Child and adolescent psychiatrist from Spain. Ambassador for Save the Children Spain ( Verified ).Dianaruttman1 (talk) 04:06, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another SPA who sounds exactly like the IPsocks above. And how did you happen to stumble upon this article? --Kinu ^t/_c 07:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was unaware that a child -- even a great one -- is permitted to be an adolescent psychitrist. Maybe the rules are different in Spain. EEng (talk) 05:32, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

EEng, you must know perfectly well what is meant: the specialty covers children and adolescents. I think you're trying to mock a non-native English language contributor, or a non-anglophone area subject but you're doing it unsuccessfully.I suggest you strike out that comment. DGG ( talk ) 01:49, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It´s a well-known spanish psychiatrist. The references are authentic and have been verified. We dont have to delete an relevant article from Wikipedia.Spmdcp (talk) 23:16, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. References:

http://terranoticias.terra.es/sociedad/articulo/psiquiatria_infantil_juvenil_espana_1819326.htm http://www.consumer.es/web/es/salud/2007/09/05/166636.php http://www.vozasturias.com/politica/geriatrico-olot-exculpa-crimenes_0_382761841.html http://www.diaridegirona.cat/comarques/2010/12/01/expert-assegura-que-zelador-dolot-no-pateix-cap-trastorn-personalitat/449584.html http://www.unidosporlavida.org/Proyecto_adopcion/adhesiones.htm http://psiquiatrianet.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/un-psiquiatra-destapa-el-fraude-abortista-del-centro-medico-aragon/ http://www.europapress.es/00666/20070902140719/plataforma-medica-pide-reconozca-especialidad-psiquiatria-infantil-juvenil-espana.html http://plataformalunarm.foroes.net/t118-jaume-canellas-hablando-claro http://www.aspathi.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=958&highlight=#958 http://www.protomedicos.com/2008/05/06/presentacion-de-nuevo-colaborador-en-protomedicoscom-jaume-canellas-galindo/ http://quemedico.com/ https://sites.google.com/a/opensocial.org/opensocial/opensocial-foundation/community-rep-candidates#TOC-Jaume-Canellas-Galindo https://sites.google.com/a/opensocial.org/opensocial/opensocial-foundation/community-rep-candidates#TOC-Jaume-Canellas-Galindo http://www.hosppal.es/index.php?noticia=433 http://www.doctorweb.org/noticias/los-animales-resultan-ser-grandes-terapeutas-para-el-ser-humano http://www.abc.es/hemeroteca/historico-03-12-2007/abc/Sociedad/ya-que-ha-venido-a-la-clinica-aprietala-para-que-aborte_1641447282306.html http://www.wikilearning.com/curso_gratis/psiquiatria_infanto_juvenil-reflexiones_sobre_el_riesgo_de_suicidio_infantil/26932-2http://www.abc.es/hemeroteca/historico-28-05-2008/abc/Sociedad/una-juez-de-gerona-abre-una-investigacion-contra-otra-red-de-clinicas-abortistas_1641896679311.html http://www.trotalinks.com/Links/http.xn--jaumecaellas-ghb.com http://www.neurologia.tv/web/wiki/index/-/wiki/Main/Dr.+Jaume+Ca%C3%B1ellas+Galindo+%28M%C3%A9dico+Psiquiatra%29;jsessionid=C1A3AF29E559D6A6B7F6A2155FB9EF39 <http://www.neurologia.tv/web/wiki/index/-/wiki/Main/Dr.+Jaume+Ca%C3%B1ellas+Galindo+%28M%C3%A9dico+Psiquiatra%29%3bjsessionid%3dC1A3AF29E559D6A6B7F6A2155FB9EF39> http://www.diaridegirona.cat/comarques/2583/jaume-canellas-reclama-canvi-legislatiu/181366.html http://www.labiografia.com/ver_biografia.php?id=29391 http://www.psiquiatria.com/profesionales/?sql_modo=&sqlw_nombre=&sqlw_especialidad=1&sqlw_subespecialidad=23&sqlw_pais=es&sqlw_comunidad=Catalunya&sql_soloficha=1 Spmdcp (talk) 23:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another SPA providing the exact same "references" as the blocked sockpuppeteer above. SPI case opened. --Kinu ^t/_c 23:54, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, to add my two cents to this. Socking aside, no evidence from WP:RS that subject meets WP:GNG. References provided all appear to be primary and/or unreliable sources. --Kinu ^t/_c 00:09, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~. Article about a renowned Spanish psychiatrist.

New references and other significant references to the relevance of this article.

I checked some of your links and four out of four checked are directory listsings, self-descriptions, and so on, so I didn't bother looking at any more. Please point out which of the above is independent, reliably-sourced, indepth coverage, or stop wasting everyone's time (including your own). EEng (talk) 23:19, 10 November 2011 (UTC) P.S. I just checked two more, and they don't contain the string Galindo.[reply]

Keep.

He has done a great job in the defense of this specialty of Child and adolescent psychiatry over many years.

As the driving force behind the platform of specialty was in Spain.

The Dr. Jaume Cañellas Galindo is one of the few experts on Child and adolescent psychiatry, with the official certificate approved by the European Union.

He was the creator and responsible for many institutions of Psychiatry and "Psicoperinatología" both in Spain and France. In your country (Spain) is consulted by the media in many cases of forensic criminology.

He was named Ambassador for Save the Children Spain in late 2010 and can verify it turning up on the headquarters of Save the Children Spain.Gumerperu (talk) 01:35, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. More references:

Gumerperu (talk) 01:43, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could you provide please a single independent secondary reliable source which talks about Jaume Cañellas Galindo directly in detail and not just as a trivial mention?. Moreover, could you please provide references of Jaume's written work that you insist on removing? What the hell are "Ed. Spain U.B" or "Ed. Barcelona"? Why can't I find these documents in any library? --Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 17:35, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not wanting to put much more energy into this silliness... Any passing admin, please consider a second block on User talk:Gumerperu for continued disruption such as this? EEng (talk) 00:00, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (which I did not expect to say) I was confused by some of the references until I realized that in many cases he is referred to as Cañellas, not Galindo, as is common in Hispanic names. On actually reading some of the sources, several of them do make it very clear they consider him an expert and spokesman for the profession: [2] [3]. Others are indeed just directories, but I think there's enough to show notability. DGG ( talk ) 02:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BLP problem with the nomination: I very much object to the noms comment that " He pretends to be a figure in psychiatry, " -- this is a direct and blatant violation of BLP--even though not article space, this is abuse and insult of the subject. The question is whether he;s a notable figure in the field. that he is a figure in the field is very clear from the references. Saying an account of a living person is a hoax has to be done very carefully. At the least I think there should be a retraction and an apology, whether or not we keep the article. I'm not going to block a participant I disagree with in the middle of an AfD, but I consider this a blockable offense. DGG ( talk ) 02:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Could you provide please a single [[WP:IS|independent]] [[WP:PRIMARY|secondary]] [[WP:RS|reliable source]] which [[Wikipedia:GNG#General_notability_guideline|talks about Jaume Cañellas Galindo directly in detail]] and not just as a trivial mention?. Moreover, could you please [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jaume_Ca%C3%B1ellas_Galindo&diff=next&oldid=457835306 provide references of Jaume's written work] that you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jaume_Ca%C3%B1ellas_Galindo&diff=next&oldid=457955351 insist on removing]? What the hell are "Ed. Spain U.B" or "Ed. Barcelona"? Why can't I find these documents in any library? --[[:ca:Usuari:Xtv|Xtv]] - ([[User talk:Xtv|my talk]]) - ([[:ca:Usuari Discussió:Xtv|que dius que què?]]) 17:35, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 :::Not wanting to put much more energy into this silliness... Any passing admin, please consider a second block on [[User talk:Gumerperu]] for continued disruption such as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jaume_Ca%C3%B1ellas_Galindo&diff=next&oldid=457955351 this]? [[User:EEng|EEng]] ([[User talk:EEng|talk]]) 00:00, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' (which I did not expect to say) I was confused by some of the references until I realized that in many cases he is referred to as  Cañellas, not Galindo, as is common in Hispanic names.  On actually reading some of the sources, several of them do make it very clear they consider him an expert and spokesman for the profession: [http://terranoticias.terra.es/sociedad/articulo/psiquiatria_infantil_juvenil_espana_1819326.htm] [http://www.europapress.es/00666/20070902140719/plataforma-medica-pide-reconozca-especialidad-psiquiatria-infantil-juvenil-espana.html]. Others are indeed just directories, but I think there's enough to show notability.   '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 02:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
+:'''BLP problem with the nomination''': I   very much object to the noms comment that " He pretends to be a figure in psychiatry, " -- this is a direct and blatant violation of BLP--even though not article space, this is abuse and insult of the subject. The question is whether he;s a notable figure in the field. that he is a figure in the field is very clear from the references. Saying an account of a living person is a hoax has to be done very carefully.  At the least I think there should be a retraction and an apology, whether or not we keep the article. I'm not going to block a participant I disagree with in the middle of an AfD, but I consider this a blockable offense.    '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 02:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)