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Camille du Gast

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• ... that hot air balloonist Camille du Gast (pictured) was the first woman to make a parachute jump and the second woman to compete in an international motor race?

Created/expanded by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 01:38, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I reviewed Church of St. Mary Draperis, Istanbul Chienlit (talk) 01:51, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Article

• The article was new at the moment of nomination. It is long enough (17,154 characters). There are some problems connected with:

1. Reliable sources: Sources number 3 and 4 are blogs. Source number 6 is a Facebook page. Source number 17 is forum. Source number 26 is blog. Source number 13 (West Gippsland Gazette) and source number 10 (Auckland star) are Australian and New Zealand tabloids. There is a blog within external links too. Section about Animal welfare does not have reliable sources (supported only with sources 6 and 26 which are facebook page and blog). Section about Women's welfare does not have reliable sources (completely depend on sources 3 and 6 which are blog and facebook page). Nominator frequently used inherently nonreliable sources like blogs, forums and facebook page to support assertions that are in most cases already supported by reliable sources. The result is citation overkill because most assertions are supported with at least three and in some cases even with seven citations. Embedded links to external websites should not be used as a form of inline citation. There is one embedded link in La Femme au Masque section.
2. Copyright: I am concerned about copyright issue because there is a big (and completely unnecessary) quotation (574 characters) from recently published book (Fast ladies : female racing drivers, 1888-1970) about attempted murder of Camille du Gast.
3. Other: fortunately was the first woman to use a parachute. fortunately is a Weasel word.

Hook

• The hook is not to long (158 characters). It is interesting and cited. I am afraid there is problem with sources for the hook. Assertion from the hook about her being "the first woman to make a parachute jump" correspond with " the first woman to use a parachute" from the text of the article. This assertion in the article is supported with three sources. Two of them are blog and facebook page. The remaining source says that according to some reports she became "the first woman to parachute". Here is a source which claim that another woman was the first to jump with parachute, in 1798. This source says that another woman was first in 1799. Conclusion: The hook is not accurate in part about parachute jump. The other part of the hook about her being the second woman to compete in international motor race is also problematic because it is supported with source number 1 and 7 which don't support such assertion, as far as I could see it. Having that in mind, I am not sure if I should AGF with two remaining (nonblogfacebook) sources on French. Facebook page even says in its title that she was the first, not second, woman to race on international level.

Conclusion: The topic of the article is interesting and I believe it is possible to present a hook which is accurate and cited. The existing hook is neither accurate or properly cited. The nominator should present a hook which is accurate and cited and to try to deal with some of above mentioned issues. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:06, 3 April 2012 (UTC)