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November 2012

Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Lanzarote Airport. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Jetstreamer ^Talk 11:10, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Not everything requires a source. Check British Airways' schedule, if the service does not appear then I will post a source. Until then, no. --Gdandsnahb (talk) 18:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

This requires a source, actually.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:35, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

The flights are available to the general public for reservation. You are incorrect, I will not add a source. Please refrain from consulting me on erroneous grounds in the future. --Gdandsnahb (talk) 05:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm consulting you nothing, just warning that your edit does not comply with WP:VERIFY. Continue and I will report you.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:17, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Lanzarote Airport. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:37, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Lanzarote Airport, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The flight is available for reservation on British Airways' website, is that somehow not a valid source or am I just crazy? The information is substantiated by British Airways. It doesn't get more legitimate then when the service is published in a airline's reservation system, and for a number of days at that. Do you dispute that service is planned or have you just failed to check for it through BA? Please, spare me some energy and shed some light as to how my edit is inappropriate. If you take such issue with a source not being present then find one yourself and add it. I will not waste my time as it is not necessary. To ensure that the verifiability policy is enforced, I presume that sources should be added to every single destination on the page, right? No, because that would be unreasonable and a colossal waste of time. How about you contribute to the page and not remove information that should be there. I will now go and undo your edit, and presumably, when you attempt to have me blocked from editing I will report you and prove to whomever it may concern just how wrong you are. I apologize for the my tone of writing but I take your threats very seriously, especially since they seriously lack meaningful basis. --Gdandsnahb (talk) 06:58, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

You need to provide a source for future destinations at airport articles, that's the issue. Mentioning anywhere that the reservation system includes the destination does not suffice. A good external reference is a press release, which is not available yet. Thus, your edit is unsourced, and I have reverted it again. Placing a hidden note does not fix anything at all. Just wait for an official press release.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:26, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I have been on the website for many years now and have never heard that. There are many planned destinations throughout airport pages that lack sourcing. Not every airline releases a press statement for new routes, so you may be waiting an awfully long time for something that will never exist. I guess we'll never be putting up quite a few destinations on these pages. "Mentioning anywhere that the reservation system includes the destination does not suffice.". If this were the case then I'd agree with you but it is NOT and I did NOT say this. If you attempt to book the flight it appears, is available; with a price, time, terminal, etc.. Once again, how in the world could this potentially not suffice anyone's doubt that the service will exist on and after March 31, 2013? That makes absolutely no sense! My hidden note wasn't meant to "fix anything", just to deter people from removing correct and substantiated information. I will most likely re-edit the page by the end of the day because I still strongly disagree with you. --Gdandsnahb (talk) 16:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I won't do anything to get you blocked, it's not my intention since you show good will to discuss the matter. I just mentioned WP:SOURCE and WP:VERIFY, the latter being a policy and subject, as such, to no discussions at all. That said, re-editing the page will implicitly show that you keep disregarding it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:59, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Did you even read what I wrote? I have every intention to disregard you because you are wrong, there are many planned destinations on this website that lack sources. On the other hand, the policy you provided a hyperlink to has not been disregarded as the information is verifiable. Curious as to how it is verifiable? Read what I wrote to you before your last post. I am not sure how your last post was relevant to anything I addressed immediately before. --Gdandsnahb (talk) 23:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Say whatever you want. You're not complying with a policy. I won't spend more time discussing this. Policies are there to be followed. If you disagree, gain consensus to change them.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:00, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

I will say the truth: I have not broken any policy and the information is verifiable. I will continue to revert your incorrect edits on the Lanzarote Airport page regarding British Airways' LGW-ACE service commencing on March 31, 2013. Please do add this verifiable source we are eagerly anticipating once, if ever, it surfaces. --Gdandsnahb (talk) 01:14, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Lanzarote Airport, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. 68.113.105.189 (talk) 06:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, and persistent refusal to follow Wikipedia policy. You have been pointed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, but have repeatedly made it clear that you intend to ignore that policy, because you personally know better. You have also openly declared your intention of continuing to edit war. "I have seen verification" is not a verifiable reliable source. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:49, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

-->{{unblock|reason=That quote was taken out of context. I don't "personally know better", this information is known by many, and failed to be recognized by the likes of certain people on Wikipedia. I have explained countless times that the service has been bookable in British Airways' reservation system for approximately a week. British Airways has not released an official written document that the service will commence on March 31, 2013. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SERVICE WILL NOT EXIST. There are many airlines who do not formally announce the commencment of a service and after a relativley long period of time for this industry, it appears as though this is case! The policy states that information should be "verifiable before you can add it". This is VERIFIABLE information. Go to British Airways' website, call them, go to their ticketing centre and try to book the flight, you will be able to. Not only does this edit meet the requirements of the policy, there are many planned destinations on these airport pages which lack an extension to a written source. Should we just pretend then that service will cease to exist, when it actually will? How about you all save us some energy and go and attempt to book the flight, so I can stop hearing about this alleged, twisted policy and re-gain the ability to edit after over a year and a half of contributions to this website. I will thoroughly persist with this matter, and contact who I need to to sort this issue out. --Gdandsnahb (talk) 18:29, 12 November 2012 (UTC)}}

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 5 days for repeating the same behavior (inserting unsourced information) that got you blocked last time. Now, I see that you tried to make an unblock request then, but you formatted it improperly, which is why no one saw it. But your rationale there is not sufficient: Wikpedia requires that the information be verifiable. If it's verifiable on the BA website, then provide a link to that website. If you can't, then the info can't be included. Otherwise, how can a reader know that it's accurate? We have to provide sources, it's the only way that WP works. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:58, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I stopped editing the page after your block and warning. UNBLOCK ME. --Gdandsnahb (talk) 16:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC) Gdandsnahb (talk) 16:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You stopped editing because of the block, not because of the warning, and your unblock request does not address the reason for your block. Are you prepared to follow wikipedia policy in the future in relation to adding valid references, even if your personal opinion is that you need not do so?--Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 16:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

lol--Gdandsnahb (talk) 20:18, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

As you wish; but an unblock is dependent on a reasonable answer. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 22:12, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

As I wish because you and your friends are out of it. Huge shout out to Qwyrxian as well. I can only hope that I'll waste more of your time in the future. Yours truly, --Gdandsnahb (talk) 23:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)