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Yulia Savicheva

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Believe Me (Yulia Savicheva song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Mass nominating this singer (and the roost of articles which is related to her) which is solely notable for her performance in the Eurovision contest, but she was just classified to the 11th position, she wasn't the winner. I can't find any coverage other than the fact that she represented Russia in Eurovision Contest, the articles in other languages are rough translation of the same content which seems to be written by a fan. Notability can't be stablished from a single act and it has been tagged with notability since 2008. Eduemoni^↑talk↓ 02:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

• Keep the main article per WP:OUTCOMES and WP:MUSICBIO, specifically criteria 9:"Has won or placed in a major music competition." Participants in the Eurovision song contest are generally considered to be notable. She has also attracted coverage in major Russian newspapers, for example Vedomosti, here. The other articles should be merged into the main article for now, until independent notability can be demonstrated. Valenciano (talk) 05:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

• Weak keep per Valenciano, basically. Eurovision is divided into (usually) some form of national competition, followed by semi-finals and then a final. Being in the final suggests she won at least her home country's competition (or was simply appointed, as is the case for some countries, but that still generates coverage) then did well during the semis. To then place 11th in the final probably gets her over the line, in my view. Both the semis and finals are televised (outside of Europe, but obviously also within Europe) and many of the national competitions are televised too. The only question beyond that is whether her being a Eurovision contestant is a matter of WP:BLP1E and whether that trumps WP:MUSICBIO and the like. Given it doesn't trump other single-event, occupation-specific, criteria (like, say, WP:NOLYMPICS) suggests it shouldn't here. So on balance I find myself in the keep camp. But probably only just, based on WP:OUTCOMES. However, by all means merge the other ones into the "main" article. Stalwart111 06:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
• Keep the main article, obviously notable as a Eurovision participant. No opinion on the others.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:27, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

• Comment - A user pointed out the specific criteria in musicbio, however musicbio states that if the subject meets the requirement it "may be notable", it does not guarantee notability, Has won or placed in a major competition does not instantly assert notability, there are several contestants from X-Factor, American Idol which have placed, but doesn't have their own article. She was placed 11th position in this single edition it does consist in one event, she wasn't qualified for her performance in the semi-finals, she appeared in the show due to the automatic qualification from the previous edition, the Vedomosti link provides only mentions regarding her apparition in Eurovision and the most recent dating 2007 are about new contestants. Eduemoni^↑talk↓ 16:00, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

  Well, this is the list of media writing about her (maintained at her website).--Ymblanter (talk) 16:21, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

• Delete The Eurovision projects have created numerous articles like this one. Participating in Eurovision does not confer instant notability, and detailing every song and singer that ever participated in Eurovision in a separate article is unnecessary.—Kww(talk) 16:09, 5 March 2013 (UTC)