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Fails WP:GNG. No more than an Olde English Bulldogge renamed by a backyard breeder as a marketing exercise. All of the references are for the latter breed or "statements" by said backyard breeder. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 23:11, 19 July 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Further, the only partially reliable (self published) cited source^[1] on these dogs describes them as no more than a line of the Olde English Bulldogge, so named to destinguish them from other lines. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 00:49, 20 July 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:47, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep: article is notable and well referenced with citations. Dr. David Leavitt's, a licensed veterinarian and certainly not a backyard breeder, work was and continues to be very important in the recreation of the Old English Bulldog.1 2 3 Bizarre that this deletion +tag is here, it confirms the lack of canine knowledge of some Wikipedia members! IQ125 (talk) 12:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IQ125, can you produce any WP:RS that describe these dogs as an independent breed from the Olde English Bulldogge? Currently the page fails WP:GNG. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 00:03, 22 July 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Keep: The Leavitt Bulldog is an UKC recognized breed: This deletion procedure absurd. Its only started by haters. The Leavitt Bulldog is just being broadcast in March of this year on the BBC in a program '''Saving the British Bulldog''' with Catherine Tate [1] see at 42.37[2]. The discussion is going on now since April 2014 [3]. The wikidogs scaled the breed to a C class wich is low but still approved by them. [4]. There was and is no notability issue only haters who are childish and giving fine people like yourselves extra nonsense work to do.So please delete the deletion procedure and keep the article. User:BarryS75 — BarryS75 has made no other edits outside this topic.

BarryS75, can you provide any WP:RS citing this is anything other than a line of Olde English Bulldogge? Because currently there is I can find nothing that indicates this page meets Wikipedia's notability policy. The UKC does recognise these dogs as an established breed on their webpage and a further reliable source I could find describes these dogs as Olde English Bulldogges, and the Leavitt Bulldog Association as one of two parent clubs of the Olde English Bulldogges breed (along with the Olde English Bulldogge Kennel Club).^[2] I certainly do not hate these dogs, they are very handsome and healthy looking animals, I am simply questioning the notability of this line of Olde English Bulldogges beyond a mention in the OEB article. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 00:03, 22 July 2018 (UTC).[reply]

References

^ Walter & Marlene Zwettler, The great book of bulldogs, bull terrier and molosser: Part 1 Bulldogs and Bull Terrier, epubli GmbH, Berlin, 2012, ISBN 978-3-8442-3922-5.
^ Dr Davis Harris, The bully breeds, Kennel Club Books, Freehold NJ, 2008, ISBN 978-1-59378-664-9, pp 74-75.

[1] Walter & Marlene Zwettler, The great book of bulldogs, bull terrier and molosser: Part 1 Bulldogs and Bull Terrier, epubli GmbH, Berlin, 2012, ISBN 978-3-8442-3922-5.

[2] Dr Davis Harris, The bully breeds, Kennel Club Books, Freehold NJ, 2008, ISBN 978-1-59378-664-9, pp 74-75.

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 Fails [[WP:GNG]]. No more than an [[Olde English Bulldogge]] renamed by a backyard breeder as a marketing exercise. All of the references are for the latter breed or "statements" by said backyard breeder. [[User:Cavalryman V31|Cavalryman V31]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman V31|talk]]) 23:11, 19 July 2018 (UTC).
 * Further, the only partially reliable (self published) cited source<ref>Walter & Marlene Zwettler, ''The great book of bulldogs, bull terrier and molosser: Part 1 Bulldogs and Bull Terrier'', epubli GmbH, Berlin, 2012, {{ISBN|978-3-8442-3922-5}}.</ref> on these dogs describes them as no more than a line of the Olde English Bulldogge, so named to destinguish them from other lines. [[User:Cavalryman V31|Cavalryman V31]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman V31|talk]]) 00:49, 20 July 2018 (UTC).
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 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Animal|list of Animal-related deletion discussions]]. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 11:47, 20 July 2018 (UTC)</small>
 *'''Strong keep''':  article is notable and well referenced with citations.  [https://www.leavittbulldogassociation.com/history.html Dr. David Leavitt's], a licensed [[veterinarian]] and certainly '''not''' a [[backyard breeder]], work was and continues to be very important in the recreation of the [[Old English Bulldog]].[http://www.leavittbulldogassociationeurope.com/ 1] [http://uniquebulldogs.com/bulldog-history/ 2][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahbhmlOWg98 3]  Bizarre that this deletion +tag is here, it confirms the lack of canine knowledge of some Wikipedia members! [[User:IQ125|IQ125]] ([[User talk:IQ125|talk]]) 12:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
+::[[User:IQ125|IQ125]], can you produce any [[WP:RS]] that describe these dogs as an independent breed from the Olde English Bulldogge? Currently the page fails [[WP:GNG]].  [[User:Cavalryman V31|Cavalryman V31]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman V31|talk]]) 00:03, 22 July 2018 (UTC).
-* '''Keep:''' The Leavitt Bulldog is an UKC recognized breed: This deletion procedure absurd. Its only started by haters. The Leavitt Bulldog is just being broadcast in March of this year on the BBC in a program [['''Saving the British Bulldog''']] with [[Catherine Tate]] [https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tt539] see at 42.37[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQD_fqtWUx8]. The discussion is going on now since April 2014 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Leavitt_Bulldog]. The wikidogs scaled the breed to a C class wich is low but still approved by them. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dogs]. '''There was and is no notability issue''' only haters who are childish and giving fine people like yourselves extra nonsense work to do.So please delete the deletion procedure and keep the article. [[User:BarryS75]]
+* '''Keep:''' The Leavitt Bulldog is an UKC recognized breed: This deletion procedure absurd. Its only started by haters. The Leavitt Bulldog is just being broadcast in March of this year on the BBC in a program [['''Saving the British Bulldog''']] with [[Catherine Tate]] [https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tt539] see at 42.37[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQD_fqtWUx8]. The discussion is going on now since April 2014 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Leavitt_Bulldog]. The wikidogs scaled the breed to a C class wich is low but still approved by them. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dogs]. '''There was and is no notability issue''' only haters who are childish and giving fine people like yourselves extra nonsense work to do.So please delete the deletion procedure and keep the article. [[User:BarryS75]] <small>— [[Special:Contributions/BarryS75|BarryS75]] has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
+::[[User:BarryS75|BarryS75]], can you provide any [[WP:RS]] citing this is anything other than a line of Olde English Bulldogge? Because currently there is I can find nothing that indicates this page meets Wikipedia's notability policy.  The UKC does recognise these dogs as an established breed [https://www.ukcdogs.com/breed-standards#category_id_2 on their webpage] and a further reliable source I could find describes these dogs as Olde English Bulldogges, and the Leavitt Bulldog Association as one of two parent clubs of the Olde English Bulldogges breed (along with the Olde English Bulldogge Kennel Club).<ref>Dr Davis Harris, ''The bully breeds'', Kennel Club Books, Freehold NJ, 2008, {{ISBN|978-1-59378-664-9}}, pp 74-75.</ref> I certainly do not hate these dogs, they are very handsome and healthy looking animals, I am simply questioning the notability of this line of Olde English Bulldogges beyond a mention in the OEB article.  [[User:Cavalryman V31|Cavalryman V31]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman V31|talk]]) 00:03, 22 July 2018 (UTC).
+{{reflist-talk}}