User talk:Ihardlythinkso

You'll be missed

So long and thanks for all the fish So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:17, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Blocked

Owing to what appears to be an overwhelming consensus, I've indefinitely blocked you from editing Wikipedia. Per my closing comments at ANI, this is explicitly indefinite in the sense of "undefined", not "infinite", and I give any admin explicit permission to overturn this block if you can convince them that restoring your permissions won't lead to a repeat of the same issues. As per my comment, while I don't see any consensus for any variant of "may not appeal until a certain time has passed", I'd urge you not to appeal straight away unless you genuinely feel that you can demonstrate that I've misread the consensus there.

Unless you actually want it for some reason or other, I won't deface your talk page with an ugly {{blocked}} template, but I request that you don't remove or blank this post in order that any admin reviewing this action can see that I've given consent to unblock without consulting me if they deem it appropriate. ‑ Iridescent 15:19, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Iridescent, I'm a little confused ... you don't want me to request unblock until some time has passed, unless I feel you misread the ANI? How much time? (Do I have to comment how you weighed the ANI? I do have some feedback and/or Qs, but is what I think necessary now?) p.s. Thank u for not requring appeal at ANI (since I never would). Also do I use template to appeal when I do? Oh I see I can UTRS this too, I'm introvert so w/ prefer that. --IHTS (talk) 04:17, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

To clarify, I'm imposing no limit at all as to when you can appeal; you're perfectly within your rights to appeal immediately. The reason I recommend against it is that unless you can demonstrate an error of process, then whoever hears the appeal (it won't be me) will likely take it as a sign of bad faith if you appeal immediately without some indication that you understand why there was a consensus to block you and an explanation of how you'll prevent it happening again. If an admin reviewing an {{unblock}} feels that you're wasting their time or making vexatious appeals, they're likely to revoke talk page access which does nobody any good. ‑ Iridescent 06:39, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I think I'm fully cognizant why consensus to block. Though I have grave misgivings re the "[ANI] process", I wouldn't be taking issue w/ it in an appeal. --IHTS (talk) 10:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Iridescent, you implied (or said) this unblock could be processed thru an admin. Now I'm being told no by Just Chillin, who gave no reason for rejecting my appeal, saying only "not at this time", and requiring future appeal in 6 mos to go thru a public noticeboard (AN/ANI). There's no way I w/ even consider doing that, I have no faith or taste for WP public drive-by boards. Cheers. --IHTS (talk) 11:56, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm reluctant to handle any appeal myself—I don't think it's appropriate for a single admin to play judge, jury and executioner, and someone else should ideally handle any appeal—but @Just Chilling, this is to make it clear that the block was absolutely explicit that in light of the unusual circumstances there was no "minimum time" provision and that IHTS was perfectly entitled to appeal as soon as he felt he could draft an appeal that would convince an uninvolved admin that the issues weren't going to recur should he be unblocked. I don't know exactly what the text of the UTRS request was, so can't judge whether IHTS is misrepresenting you and you actually declined the request for a legitimate reason, but if it was purely on grounds of "too soon", please reconsider. (I'd also direct you—or anyone else evaluating an unblock request—to this thread as well, where I go into my reasons for deciding that "can appeal as soon as he feels appropriate" better represented consensus than any kind of fixed-duration or minimum-time block.) Paging Rhododendrites for transparency reasons as well. ‑ Iridescent 14:45, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Iridescent: In case you weren't aware, any admin can now see the contents of UTRS requests without having to register a separate UTRS account. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:48, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Iridescent: Firstly, when I review UTRS appeals, and I have reviewed rather a lot(!), I may get my assessment right or wrong but if I have declined a request it is always for a legitimate reason. Turning now to IHTS's comments, I made the Standard Offer. As the name implies this is an offer that the applicant can accept or decline as they see fit - the wording of the email says "you may wish to make use of our "standard offer". This is rather different to "requiring future appeal in 6 mos to go thru a public noticeboard (AN/ANI)". Whilst the blocking admin says "any admin is free to overturn this block should IHTS submit an unblock request or UTRS appeal ..." since this was a Community block I think in practice that would be inappropriate to do at UTRS. IHTS has clearly lost the confidence of the Community (and for their part they seem to have no confidence in the Community). Good editing is a collaborative exercise, and requires constructive cooperation and an unblock made without Community support is unlikely to work out well. IHTS has indicated that they would not be prepared to take the SO ("There's no way I w/ even consider doing that") so my suggestion falls. Consequently, I am reverting my UTRS close and referring IHTS to the talk page appeal procedure which, in itself, will ensure broader consideration. I will email them with the procedure to follow. Just Chilling (talk) 23:29, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm posting here to clarify because I think your summary is a bit out of context. Your rejection of my appeal: "Your block appeal has been reviewed and we are unable to unblock you at this time. However, you may wish to make use of our "standard offer" [...]" and "If, at the end of six months, [...], you may then contact an administrator off-wiki or via the Unblock Request System and request that the community discuss unblocking you." followed by link to SO which states the appeal goes to AN/ANI. When I wrote "there's no way I w/ even consider doing that", I was referring to application at AN/ANI public drive-by boards for appeal. There are a community of editors I respect and work well with, what you said about me is misrepresentative. Thanks. --IHTS (talk) 02:48, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

The Game of Three Kingdoms

(This took some time, and research, to make. The correct kanji, rendering the images, the board geometry.) --IHTS (talk) 04:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

UTRSBot

This blocked user is asking that his block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Ihardlythinkso (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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UTRS appeal #22308 was submitted on Aug 08, 2018 10:19:34. This review is now closed.

--UTRSBot (talk) 10:19, 8 August 2018 (UTC)