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2 November 2006

Brody Ruckus

I strongly feel that the Brody Ruckus page should be unprotected and restored - the Facebook group was an important marketing technique and social phenomenon that involved over 300,000 people and has been covered by major student newspapers - http://www.studlife.com/media/storage/paper337/news/2006/11/03/News/threesome.Facebook.Group.Allegedly.A.Scam-2437716.shtml?norewrite200611030613&sourcedomain=www.studlife.com&mkey=1491036

How can Wikipedia cover incredibly obscure topics but ignore one that involved so many people?

Endorse deletion, don't see anything that's changed since September, except the one student newspaper report which does not meet the "multiple non-trivial published works" criterion of WP:WEB. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 12:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support redirect to Ruckus Network, but protect it and leave the history deleted as a softer {{deletedpage}} to prevent recreation of the marketing exercise. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 19:08, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me. NawlinWiki 19:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse Deletion, per previous DRV. Naconkantari 17:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Overturn deletion, redirect to Ruckus Network. The student newspaper report above is largely taken from here, a report on eSchool News Online, which seems legitimate. Basically, Ruckus Network made up the whole Brady Ruckus thing as a marketing exercise, kinda like Lonelygirl15. I will edit the Ruckus Network article, but the redirect should exist. NawlinWiki 17:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Update I've added the relevant section to Ruckus Network. NawlinWiki 18:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse deletion per the last DRV. Wouldn't really care if it ends up getting redirected though. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse deletion, allow redirect per NawlinWiki. Guy 23:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep deleted, redirect, and protect per Sam. Eluchil404 10:08, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Teeterdil

Wow i cannot believe this got deleted. I play Teeterdil all the time STRONG OVERTURN! This is legit mang. Sportsguru9999 06:16, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teeterdil

Amazing how, with its immense popularity, it has thus far managed to elude the all-encompassing gaze of Google. There are precisely two hits: Wikipedia and the creators' MySpace. Contributors include Teeterman (talk · contribs) and Teeterdilforlife (talk · contribs) Endorse deletion of this vanispamcruftisement unless and until we have proper sources. Guy 09:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse Deletion, valid AFD. Naconkantari 17:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse deletion, made-up nonsense. NawlinWiki 17:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Overturn this is a real sport, i play it all the time. Having google hits is not important, many things on wikipedia don't — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.30.115.196 (talk • contribs)

Being Verifiable is not just important. It's required. Fan-1967 03:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse deletion as strongly as possible. A small group has been working in a very bad faith manner to try to keep coverage of this subject. The AfD was flooded with their presumed sockpuppets, and after its deletion one of them vandalized my user page. Any chance of blacklisting the word "teeterdil"...? -Elmer Clark 01:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Overturn Teeterdil is a real sport, and it seems you guys are threatened by it's existance. Don't worry, it won't bite. As for you Elmer Clark, please stop being disrespectful, you have no life.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.40.126.199 (talk • contribs)
Endorse deletion. Can't find verifiability for it, sorry. --Angelo 00:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 **'''Overturn''' Teeterdil is a real sport, and it seems you guys are threatened by it's existance. Don't worry, it won't bite. As for you Elmer Clark, please stop being disrespectful, you have no life.{{unsigned|75.40.126.199}}
 *'''Endorse deletion'''. Can't find verifiability for it, sorry. --[[User:Angelo.romano|Angelo]] 00:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
-====[[Dustin Varpness]]====
-I created an article on the actor Dustin Varpness. The initial article was not submitted until I had referenced several outside sources including the IMDB. Another user added a STUB category while I continued to work on completing the article. I found the article was speedy deleted shortly after its creation. The reason for this was cited to me as [[WP:BIO]] but that decision was based on an assumption. The admin saw my username and believed me to be the subject of the article but I am actually a relative of Dustin. My name is Matthew Varpness and I decided to contribute the article on Dustin based on his appearance in several television shows on the Discovery Channel and the Disney Channel. In addition, I believe the article is beneficial because there are folks who wish to find out more about Dustin's career. I should know, I am the admin for Varpness.com and have received numerous emails from girls who saw Dustin on the Disney Channel and want me to forward their letters to him. In addition, I host some photos and information on his Discovery Channel program and have the internet search word referrals showing people visting my website based on their search for more information on him.
-Anyway, I realize I can be long-worded so I'll post this undeletion request with a reminder that the reason for deletion was based on an incorrect assumtion and I'd like to have access to the source for the article so I can complete my contribution to Wikipedia. Thank you.
---[[User:Varpness|Thew Varpness]] 05:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Endorse deletion'''.  From the article: '''''Dustin Varpness''' is a young actor who has contributed his talents to one Discovery Channel Program and at least one Disney Channel commercial.''  Sorry, I'm afraid we expect a bit more than that.  We also don't much like articles written by members of the subject's family, because it's so hard to be properly [[WP:NPOV|neutral]].  Wait until he's in the next Spielberg movie, perhaps. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> 09:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
-Unfortunately, Guy, your logic has failed on all counts. First you quoted my article stating the accomplishments of Dustin. However, as I already stated the article was delete before I could complete the list. You say more is expected but neither allowed the time to add more nor stipulated what "more" means. Then you cite [[WP:NPOV|neutral]] as grounds for deletion based on my relation to Dustin. However, there is nothing in [[WP:NPOV|neutral]] that even mentions family members. You said it has to be neutral but I don't recall seeing the words "hunk" or "superstar" anywhere in the article I wrote. In addition, you assume I have a close relationship with my cousin. Sorry, but we grew up completely separated and I have only spoken to him twice in the last year. Finally, your suggestion that I wait until he is in a Spielberg movie is not only illogical but also insulting. There are thousands of actors found in the Wikipedia that have never even spoken to Steven Spielberg.
-Lucky for all of us, I am an intelligent and reasonable person and recognize the spirit of Wikipedia and the reasons for deletion, even if they are inconsistent and required revision when the initial grounds were proven to be invalid. Consequently I formally withdraw my undeletion request with this warning: think carefully and logically about how you will respond to new articles added to Wikipedia. With the thousands of abusive users frequenting this encyclopedia, we can use all of the quality contributors as we can. Speedily deleting an article by a member who has only ever contributed quality information, without taking a moment to correspond with the author, is disappointing. I would expect a higher standard of conduct from an admin. Regardless, for whomever may read this, please keep my suggestions in mind. After all, projects like [[Citizendium]] are looking for educated professionals such as myself. Thank you for your time and good luck. --[[User:Varpness|Thew Varpness]] 18:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
-: See [[WP:BIO]], [[WP:V]], [[WP:RS]], [[WP:NPOV]].  Do feel free to cite the multiple non-trivial independent coverage of which your cousin has been primary source.  Oh, and [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]] on admins are really ''not'' a great way to get a deletion overturned. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> 23:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Endorse deletion''' appears to have been a valid deletion under [[WP:CSD#A7]].  While not technically autobiography there are still [[WP:COI]] concerns.  Imperfect explanations are not reasons to overturn otherwise valid deletions.  [[User:Eluchil404|Eluchil404]] 10:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)