Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:United States Marine Corps

Portal:United States Marine Corps

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This page has seen some sporadic maintenance, however the page currently has had no maintainer since the last one was blocked for sockpuppetry. [1] A zealous maintainer is especially necessary when you don't have a randomized carousel of pages to showcase like on other portals (e.g. Portal:United States Marine Corps/biography/2019July is a big fat redlink right now on the page in question.)

Most importantly, blurb forks require attribution per WP:COPYWITHIN. See outcome at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Military of the United States. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 10:58, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

• Neutral at this time, pending a better reason to Delete or Keep – This portal is being viewed more than many portals, and is being maintained off-and-on, which is better than some, and has many articles. The portal has too many redlinks. The nominator's criticism of the lack of attribution, which is a technical violation of the Wikipedia copyleft, is technically correct but also applies to nearly all heritage portals, which have been implemented using partial copies of subpages. One view is that portals should be associated with an active WikiProject. The nominator appears to be associated with WP:WikiProject Military History and is proposing to delete this portal. The following metrics are based on an observation period of 1 January 2019 to 28 February 2019.

Title	Portal Page Views	Article Page Views	Ratio	Percent	Comments	Articles	Notes	Type
United States Army	50	4430	88.60	1.13%	Portal appears to have been last maintained in 2016. Originator last edited in 2014.	13		Military
Military of the United States	46	3246	70.57	1.42%	Originator last edited in 2014. Appears to have been last maintained in 2010. Many articles, and calendar of dates, but not currently maintained.	82		Military
United States Coast Guard	18	2642	146.78	0.68%	Originator edits sporadically. Five biographies and one article. No articles added since 2011.	6		Military
United States Navy	43	4234	98.47	1.02%	Originator inactive since 2014. No maintenance to equipment and biographies since 2010.	26		Military
United States Merchant Marine	7	832	118.86	0.84%	Originator sporadic from 2012 to 2018, now inactive. No maintenance since 2008.	30		Military
United States Air Force	60	3909	65.15	1.53%	Originator inactive since 2011. This portal has many subpages, but they do not appear to have been maintained since 2010.	100		Military
United States Marine Corps	39	4573	117.26	0.85%	Many subarticles. Sporadic maintenance through June 2019.	100		Military

The major problems with this portal are that it is not being consistently maintained, as the redlinks show, and that it is based on a failed model which systematically disregards the copyleft. As User:Finnusertop notes, the attribution problem can be addressed by dummy edits. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:44, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

• Comment. I see that the sock-blocked "maintainer" was Emoteplump.

I don't know if @Mark Schierbecker is aware of history, but basically Emoteplump was a prolific sock who rapidly created lots of new portals and added themselves as maintainer of many others. The whole lot was mass-reverted.

So really, Emoteplump's involvement here was that they applied one piece of graffiti to this portal, and it was rapidly removed. So we can basically ignore that episode.

I note that all the related portals have already been deleted, for a variety of problems. Portal:United States Air Force, Portal:United States Coast Guard, Portal:United States Navy, Portal:Military of the United States, Portal:United States Army are all gone.

I will examine this one properly tomorrow. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the skinny on Emoteplump. I have amended my comment. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 05:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

• Keep and tag with the {{Update}} template. Then notify relevant Wikiprojects that the portal would benefit from updating. The topic meets WP:POG guidelines in terms of being broad enough in topical scope to qualify for a portal. Also, see WP:RIA, which provides information about how to correct attribution issues. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Note deceit. NA1k continues her usual practice try to deceive participant in portal XFDs, by making an assertion based in vague wave a WP:POG. As NA1K well knows WP:POG requires that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". In this case, the portal has demonstrably not attracted "large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers": no maintenance for years, and only 18 page views per day.

This is happening so often that it amounts to a campaign by NA1K of lying by deliberate omission.

NA1K is a Wikipedia admin, and is therefore supposed to act with integrity. This systematic lying is not a sign of integrity. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)