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"Nightmare"

Although not included in the pre-order, iHeart Radio and Pitchfork agree that "Nightmare" is on this album. I suspect that it wasn't added to the pre-order yet by mistake, as I don't know why this song wouldn't be on this album. Opinions? Billiekhalidfan (talk) 03:30, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"She then added that the forthcoming album — of which 'Nightmare' is not a part". It's not uncommon to scrap flop singles.--N Ø 15:19, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- I wouldn't say "Nightmare" flopped, but it wasn't as successful as "Without Me", that's for sure. But the thing is the album title was literally hidden in the "Nightmare" video. Anyway, here are more sources that agree "Nightmare" is on this album: ET Canada, Alternative Press, Billboard, Music Feeds. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 18:39, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

She has excluded it from the album, it doesn't appear on the pre-order. She has given an interview confirming Nightmare is not part of the album. The song "Nightmare" will not appear on the album Manic, etc. etc. To summarize: The song is not on this album regardless of a few wrong articles. It's literally, virtually, not present on the album and stating otherwise is objectively wrong.—N Ø 19:00, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All I am saying is that it is a possibility. And she didn't confirm it, the interviewer decided that herself. The pre-order could change. And seven articles isn't "a few". Billiekhalidfan (talk) 19:06, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

el o el. Do. some. research. before getting loud. Satisfied now?—N Ø 19:33, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and I wasn't "getting loud". If anything, you're being plain rude. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 19:40, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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{{subst:DNAU|MaranoFan}} Well, well, well. Let me first remind you of what you said in your talk :" Tell others that they're wrong with kindness". Stop being messy and pipe down on the sassiness for a moment, can you? This is merely disrespectful to call

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{{subst:DNAU|Billiekhalidfan}} "loud" when he's just trying to ask a question. Let's be honest, on your talk page you talk about how great Wikipedia is and etc Stop. Being. A. Messy. Bottom but is it really the image you're giving? Aren't you ashame of your damn self? I'd be if I were you. Would you like to be insulted for no reason? Like c'mon.

You're being unnecessarily rude and bratty as if you had taken any personal offense in what Billiekhalidfan fan said when he just asked a question. Stop being a little shady brat and grow some respect and transparency while we are at it.

This is not the place nor the time to pick unnecessary fights.

Was I clear?

clementine

Should Clementine qualified as a promotional single or a single itself? Because first of all it was released out of the blue and then it wasn't released on a Friday, long story short : I do believe that clementine is not a single. Opinions? Iambacknimbetter (talk) 23:03, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you find a source calling it a promotional single, then maybe, but still discuss. However multiple sources have called it the third single. Camila Cabello's "Liar" and "Shameless" were released on a Thursday but are singles with radio airplay. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 23:23, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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{{subst:DNAU|Billiekhalidfan}} there's never sources calling songs promotional singles it's just that it's common in the music industry to release promotional singles the day an album is out for pre-order. Clementine (song) was released w/o any prior announcement and it is not predicted to be serviced as a radio single or anything of that sort and for that I THINK that it is a promotional recording.

OH by the way, Thursday are strategical days to release music aka SINGLES, I can't explain but for sure I can quote sources!

By the way hi!!!

Iambacknimbetter (talk) Iambacknimbetter 😋

Even if it seems like it's a promotional single, it still needs a source. A song doesn't need radio airplay to be a single. Also, "Clementine" was not released the same day as the album was released for pre-order. "Graveyard" was. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 23:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need sources that say that promo singles are indeed Promotional recordings? Since when do we needed that? Halsey just released it out of nowhere without any prior announcement on her birthday.

If we need sources that say that this song is a promo single, then we need sources about Graveyard and we even need sources about Manic being an album... Maybe it can be a mixtape, you know.

In short. You're too uptight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iambacknimbetter (talk • contribs) 23:44, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we do need sources to call the song a promo single, especially since multiple sources call it a single. And for your sarcastic comments, many sources call Manic her third album, and "Graveyard" has been called a single and has been released to radio. So we actually do source everything. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 23:47, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Since when I was being sArCaStIC? I merely stated that if we have to provide sources for every and anything then, maybe, Manic is a mixtape and we never know?

And finally after careful research something that someone never does *cough* someone I know *cough* I found out that Clementine is the third single of the album, which is a terrible choice of single... Literally.

Iambacknimbetter (talk) Live, Laugh, drag! - Imbackandimbetter!

Lol. I literally provided a source calling "Clementine" the third single in the article and told you that there were even more sources calling it a single, but I'm the one not doing research while you were trying to call it a promo single without any research given. Because that makes so much sense.. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 23:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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You honestly sound like someone I'd bully at school for no reasons and I love it.

But to start ma'am, where did you provided a source??? Because I just went down our discussion and I've found no external link so yeah you didn't provide any source, let's stop with the lies.

Then, when did I say that you were the one not doing any research? Because miss thing, I said "someone I know" stop being concerned about everything because the earth does not turn around your messy self.

Secondly, I had done researches on clementine and I saw that it was being qualified as single but the articles I read were the same who classified "The Light Is Coming" as a single as well so I did not take it in consideration, clementine is possibly a single, you can breath in one, two three and don't forget to take this stick out of your a--.

Thanks, - Management.

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