Talk:Brett Favre

Record Watch (2006 season,4 games remaining)

Favre has several records he can move up in
1. just moved into 5th all-time for games played by QB (past Elway 234)
2. he may move into 1st all-time for both total TDs and total points by QB (past Marino, needs at least 5 TDs)
3. Favre is 2nd for points per game (10.8), just ahead of Marino (10.6)
4. Favre is 3rd all time career victories, 5 to tie Marino. Elway has 148 victories, he is uncatchable this season.
5. Favre will move up in consecutive games started (ref. Packers.com) most other career records are not within reach in the 2006 season ...
--Billymac00 17:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

MVP Awards

Second paragraph loudly proclaims that he is the only three-time MVP in the history of the NFL. But surely that should be qualified as three-time Associated Press MVP, because:

• The league has no official MVP (is that right?)
• He only won the Pro Football Writers' MVP and Bert Bell Award twice -- both of those awards were given only to Barry Sanders in 1997 instead of the AP Sanders-Favre tie.
• Otto Graham and Johnny Unitas both got three UPI NFL MVP awards. Otto Graham received his before the AP started their awards, and it looks like the UPI awards were pretty much the only game in town at that time.

Perhaps someone can clean the wording up so it is more precise. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.34.50.109 (talk) 04:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Unprotect

I'm requesting that you un protect the Brett Favre page, there are many errors in his stats, they are all off in different parts of the page and it's sort of embarrassing, this was a good page untill you protected it now stats are wrong all over, please allow me to update the stats on the page, I don't need to edit anything but his career numbers so this will be a acurate page, I'm also requesting you unprotect it alltogether, it's very unnessary, you can edit Dan Marino and Joe Montana, but not Brett Favre, that makes no sense, please unprotect the Brett Favre page, there are to many errors, or at least let me update the stats.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.121.12 (talk • contribs)

This article gets vandalized many times in one day. What stats are off? If you think they're off you can still edit them, you just need an account. Before this page was protected, people would have to revert about five edits a day.++aviper2k7++ 04:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree, for whatever reason, Favre is much more of a lighning rod for vandals. I'd say leave it protected at least a month after he's knocked down a couple of these records. ---Jackel 17:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

All of his stats are accurate. You deleting this section and placing talk messages in the incorect place gives me an uneasy feeling that you will add incorrect stats or vandalize the page with other of your friend's IPs. If you really think the stats are wrong, say so or get an account and edit the stats that are wrong.++aviper2k7++ 22:05, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

this is where wikipedia told me to put this message, so don't say it's wrong, and the stats are crap, do YOu not have an education, one place says he has 56,756 yards. At the top it says 56,463 and at the top in the side box it says he has 56,197, that's three difference numbers and you say that's accurate, where did you go to school, wikipedia told me to request the {editprotected} in the talk section and you say it's the wrong place, Brett favre being protected is making the page look laughable, your so off, it's says his career recors is 143-88, that's adds up to 231, he's has started in 234 consecutive games as a quarterback and his record is 144-90 and you think I'm going to put incorrect stats, he's my favorite player and I want his page stats to be correct on all accounts, this page is embarrasing right now, he can't have three different numbers of stats scattered around the page, it should be correct all over the page, I don't care about the dialog and biography, I just want the stats correct and for your info, the stats under Favre continues to close in on several NFL career records, I typed all that, that's why it's there and the Playoff records under the career stats, I typed all that months ago, so don't say I'm going to put incorrect info, most the stat info on the page was originated by me before the page was protected. Please unprotect the page so I can fix the stats, you have my word I won't put incorrect info, I'm to much of a Brett fan and I also added all the stats to the Morten Andersen page if you want to check it, I didn't put false stats on his page, I just want wikipedia to be a credited website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.122.216 (talk • contribs)

Please follow talk page guidelines, thank you. If you think the stats are wrong, you can create an account and edit them. The protect is for countless vandalisms, not to prevent you from editing. You can edit the page by registering an account, a process that takes less than a minute.++aviper2k7++ 01:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the stats at the top. These were due to not updating the current stats. The career wins is accurate. He did not start 3 games in his career, but as a starting quarterback has 234.++aviper2k7++ 01:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

IP adress, please reply below this, do not delete this talk page. I fixed the stat, I believe it is accurate now. Please stop saying that I "no nothing" and I did not go to school. Please keep some sort of civility.++aviper2k7++ 02:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You don't know nothing about Brett Favre, his record was 143-90 correct, but he won the game this Sunday 30-19 against san francisco, that's 144-90, not 143-91, and if you went to school you would know that and please take off the Brett is on pace crap after the stats, that looks stupid, I'm not cutting you down and trying to degrade you, I'm just frustrated because I'm giving you acurate info and you are ignoring it and you won't let me fix it. Go to http://www.packers.com/history/record_book/individual_records/favre_watch/ and you will see he is at 144 wins, I'm sorry if I offended you before, but I want to work with you and make this site as accurate as can be, that will make wikipedia look good, so lets start from scratch, Thanks.

Please read through WP:TALK. For one thing, I am trying to get the stats right also. am not ignoring you, I am trying to get the stats right. It's very hard to get accurate stats, and you did not help the process by deleting the talk page and insisting the Favre page which is vandalized several times in a day should be unprotected. I ask that you do not delete this talk page any more. The stats are hard to keep accurate because some things are changed after a game and some things aren't. The stats were only a game off in a couple of places and you dub this article awful. I am letting you fix it. It's Wikipedia, anyone can edit an article. I did not protect this page. All you have to do is register an account which takes less than a minute. You not registering an account makes me wonder if you really want to edit the Favre page.++aviper2k7++ 05:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I didn't delete the page, the talk page had a ton of stuff earlier, now it hardly has anything, I didn't delete all that stuff, the stats are easy for me I follow Favre and any page that isn't accurate isn't very good, I could fix that. I don't mind if you fix it though, the only thing wrong is consecutive starts at the top and the side top it says 233, it's 234 and 254 with playoffs and it's also wrong in the records and milestones section, also under records and milestones, delete all that would finish the season at current pace junk like you did with the career wins, other than that the page looks great now, thanks for updating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.123.105 (talk • contribs)

Ok, whoever just changed all the stats back to the old incorrect stats need to be banned from Wikipedia, they are vandalising this page with INCORRECT information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.120.219 (talk • contribs)

Why is it so hard for you to create an account, wait 4 days for it to be eligible to edit semi-protected articles (like this one) and contribute? You could be doing that instead of all the comments here denigrating the work of people like me and aviper who are trying to do our best, but let's face it, the article is huge. So in closing, if you want something changed, register and change it, please. Adam Weeden 15:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

No 4.245.120, you need to be banned from Wikipedia if anyone. You are vandalizing the talk page and blanking this page. The stats haven't changed since I edited them yesterday. Please stop vandalizing this talk page and comment in the correct place and sign your comments by placing four ~~~~ marks next to your comment.++aviper2k7++ 22:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Image

The discussion was getting pretty long, so I archived the old talk which wasn't being discussed. I think this article needs an image. If you browse "Brett Favre" on flickr, you'll find a bunch of results. I was thinking about emailing one of the users with a Brett Favre photo and asking if they'd release the image to Wikipedia. this seems like a nice one. I'm not sure how the copyrights work with players in uniform. I believe you have to get "express written consent from the NFL" or something if you want to include a player in a uniform or logo. If anyone knows anything about this, please respond. If we're allowed this, then I will email some of those Flickr users. I found an image of Favre of him golfing that doesn't include a team logo. I think emailing and getting permission would grant Wikipedia copyrights. Please respond.++aviper2k7++ 00:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I prefer the first one. I don't know what the NFL's policy is on showing players in uniform, however. Try contacting the user on flickr, see what's up. --King Bee 19:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Recent Changes by Anonymous User

You gave no reason for the removal of the progress of the almost" records so they have been added back in. Do not remove them again without discussing it in here first. If you don't like them, tough. If we as a group decide they're not appropriate, then they can be removed. I also added some fact requests for some new stats you added, please provide the references for those. Adam Weeden 16:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Tough yourself, you don't know what you doing Adam, your obviously stupid, you keep changing the stats at the top and there are false you idiot, and what he's on pace to do is irrelivant, quit vandalising this page with incorrect info you idiot, your ruing this page, now quit it or be removed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.121.193 (talk • contribs)

Please refrain from making personal attacks. --King Bee 19:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Please stop calling people idiots. "Your" not being a good Wikipedian. You do not control this article. We make decisions based on a group. There's only three games left, the on pace thing is going to be removed in a couple weeks anyways.++aviper2k7++ 20:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Your page looks stupid and illeterate, you don't see CREDITABLE websites cluttered with Brett's on pace crap. Grow up, your obviously a bunch of dum kids.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.120.144 (talk • contribs)

I think this is starting to get a bit Childish - perhaps it might be time for re-semi-protection. --Rehnn83 22:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Time for you to shut up and mind your own business aviper2k7 is a minor, so your right it's getting childish, but semi-protection isn't the answer, I'm putting valid info on here and stupid minors are making this page look like crap, it's really a shame.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.120.144 (talk • contribs)

Please do not remove the references again. Doing so will break the three revert rule which could be grounds for a suspension for a short period of time. Also, please refrain from personal attacks, this is also against the rules. Please do not vandalize my talk page either. And please sign "your" posts by adding ~~~~ at the end of your post.++aviper2k7++ 23:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

For ongoing reverts, without any care for the opinions of other editors, I have reported 4.245.120.144 for violation of the 3 Revert Rule. Adam Weeden 15:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Good idea, but this user is editing under multiple IP addresses. We might not be out of the woods yet. --King Bee 16:19, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Too negative

This articles seems to be written in a negative point of view, for example in the Atlanta section "His most notable accomplishments, aside from going 0 for 5 passing with two interceptions that year, were missing the team photo".....Coasttocoast 00:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Seems like a good section to clean up. I'm on it.++aviper2k7++ 00:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

On Current Pace Issue

I think the page looks awful with the current pace stuff, I have to agree, it's very incorrect,innapropriate, and unneeded, What he is on pace to do is not what he will do and it's just cluttering the page with a lot of dialog that no one will read because it's to much to read and it not even fact, it's speculation, lets just celebrate his factual numbers, that's what people want to see and be impressed by, no credible Brett Favre page like espn or nfl.com would put such nonsence on there Brett Favre pages, just the stats and factual numbers and if this is to be a credible page, it should be the same, but this page will be better because it includes a extended biography on his life before getting to the records and milestones, so lets get rid of the on pace stuff, it weekens the page and the whole records and milestones section. starwars1955

I can appreciate your oppositions, but I respectfully disagree. I have seen outlets such as ESPN do projections, most recently just prior to LaDanian Tomlinson breaking the all-purpose touchdown record. I agree that normal projections are pointless, but for someone such as Favre who may not play after this year, and is so close to breaking so many records, the projections help visualize the reality of whether those records will eventually be broken by him. If you wish we can put it to a vote. Each one of us gets one vote. And by each one of us I mean each individual registered user. Adam Weeden 02:27, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Vote for projections remaining until end of season. (Approve or Disapprove)

Vote by Adam Weeden: Approve for reasons stated above.