Talk:Regnery Publishing

Rv pov

I deleted the part about leftists considering Regnery to be part of a fascist theocratic scheme to take over America, as that's obviously not sourced. BarrettBrown 05:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

And now I've deleted it again. BarrettBrown 00:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Politically Incorrect Guide series

I think there should be something here about their "Politically Incorrect Guide" series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.188.33.222 (talk • contribs) 17:49, July 18 2006 (UTC)

Junking C&C

It is blatantly obvious that various editors are smuggling in ridiculously POV'd general smears and hatchet-jobs under the aegis of (seemingly legitimate) criticism. In fact, the entire entry consists on nothing-but. Consequently, I'm pulling the chain on it.--Mike18xx 02:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree that you should junk C&C. This entire obvious that this page is just an attack on Regnery Publishing, not unbiased in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmr924 (talk • contribs) 13:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

It could certainly use some trimming; that first sentence under "conspiracy theories" probably needs to go. Don't just delete everything, though. BarrettBrown 23:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I've restored the Ben Domenech portion of the criticisms section you removed. Please don't just remove an entire section like that. BarrettBrown 05:57, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Do not remove content to white wash the article. If you have POV issues discuss it on the talk. Removing segments will result in a block. Arbusto 08:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism needs to be cleaned up. It is not white washing. If things can't be removed, things will have to be added to balance it out. You are being ridiculous, this article clearly is negative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmr924 (talk • contribs) 00:31, October 25 2006 (UTC)

Cmr924 is engaging in sock puppetry to get criticism removed (see my talk page for proof). Arbustoo|Arbustoo 01:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

You are being ridiculous. I just did not sign in yet. That is my IP address. Calm down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmr924 (talk • contribs) 01:39, October 25 2006 (UTC)

Did you make these edits? [1][2] [3][4]? Arbusto 02:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Also are these tied to you JonMoseley (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), Mike18xx (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), or BarrettBrown (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)? I am thinking about a Request for CheckUser information. Arbusto 02:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead, you will be proven wrong. Would be great to see. My last edit was perfectly acceptable. What was wrong with it? That is what I am asking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.214.28 (talk • contribs) 03:24, October 25 2006 (UTC)

Have you removed the section under any other names? Arbusto 16:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I have one name. Cmr924. So that would be a no. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmr924 (talk • contribs) 00:27, October 26 2006 (UTC)

Any news on your "Request for CheckUser"? Should be interesting to hear about that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.214.28 (talk • contribs) 00:24, October 29 2006 (UTC)

Deletions

User:DGG "condensed" the article, but I am not sure why the removal of information was helpful. I am partially reverting/rewording that deletion for now, but I hope DGG will consider explaining his rational for information that seems to be notable (i.e. the involvement of notable individuals in the company). DickClarkMises 19:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Ben Domenech

I think the section on him should be removed from this article. It is not about Regnery at all and gives us no more information on it. Steve Dufour 18:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

The actions which led Regnery to fire an editor is relevant to the article about the company. Guettarda 18:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, particularly since there are assertions that his firing was connected to Regnery-related activities. -Will Beback · † · 19:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

If every college student who plagerized got mentioned in WP that would take up a lot of space. :-) Steve Dufour 06:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Are that many of them employed as editors by publishers which have Wikipedia articles, and get fired (from that job and others) for the plagiarism? Guettarda 06:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

If more of them were fired the world would be a better place, IMO. :-) Steve Dufour 06:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I have never been happy with this section, because it is relatively trivial compared to the important material about the company. Sometime plagiarism is a major event, but it is not here, and Regnery's omission or insertion of the passage concern is among the least of its (mis)deeds. Keeping it might look like struggling to find something negative. DGG 06:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I see no reason why it should removed, it is a notable and verifiable event. If there are other more notable controversial issues missingm here, like Robert Novak's son working at Regnery while he shilled for their books[5], is not sufficient justification for removing this event. FeloniousMonk 22:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Is that fact that an employee of a publisher "shills for their books" notable? I would think that should be part of their jobs. :-) Steve Dufour 02:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Source for quote

The article includes the quote: "... manages to connect the president to everything from 1997's Oklahoma City bombing to Arkansas's drug underworld to the mysterious death of White House aide and longtime Clinton friend Vince Foster, and, of course, to Paula Jones." However no source is given and we are not told who said it. Can this information be added? Thanks. Steve Dufour 17:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

The material is sourced, it's been sourced for a long time. I find your question puzzling. Guettarda 17:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't question that what was said about the book is true. I just think it would be better if the article said who said it. The footnote led to the Amazon.com page for the book. I didn't see the quote there but I might have missed it. Steve Dufour 20:02, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Try "Control-F", it's a good way to find text on a web page (with most browsers). Guettarda 22:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Why no criticism section

Regenry Publishing is obviously controversial yet this article mentions nothing but praise. For example intelligent design is widely considered pseudoscience and the South was the premier source of racism in America(and still is). I found criticism of them from experts while search online so I will add them to my user pageYou very nice place 05:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

NPOV and OR tags

Some of the edits here are legitimate (the correction about Eagle Publishing and the removal of the list of books), but others are plainly POV-pushing, and violate NPOV and OR by including unsourced opinion and blog opinion. THF 12:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of content

• "Wonkette fails BLP"

Wonkette said "a source said X". This is a comment on the inner workings of the company, not a living person, so BLP relevant here.

• "Ernest weblog violates BLP"

To begin with, these are course notes, not blog posts. In addition, this text documents Ernest's opinion - the opinion of a University of North Carolina "Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies".

• "David Walls, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at Sonoma State University, fails WP:RS"

No, he doesn't. Really.

• "Ben Domenech - This isn't particularly relevant, as there is no known connection between his Regnery job and his plagiarism"

He was fired from Regenery for this, so yes, it's relevant, much like the Jayson Blair scandal is relevant to NYTimes. Guettarda 03:37, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The available sources state that Mr. Domenech resigned from Regnery on March 21, two days before the plagiarism came to light. FCYTravis 03:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The information from Wonkette is controversial information about a person that is not reliably sourced, and plainly violates BLP. Do not add it again, or I will seek intervention from admins. THF 14:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Admins? You called? How about addressing the substance of what I had to say, instead of making false accusations of vandalism? Guettarda 14:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

From BLP:

Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles'

Material from self-published books, zines, websites, and blogs should never be used as a source about a living person, unless written or published by the subject of the article (see below).

Editors who repeatedly add or restore unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons may be blocked for disruption.

Again, please read WP:BLP, as you have violated it three times, and should have been blocked. THF 14:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Wonkette is not a blog for that purpose but is run by a major corporation and has a process of fact-checking and editorial oversight. Note the word "self-published" in the above. JoshuaZ 14:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The citation to Wonkette is anonymous gossip, and not something we should be repeating. Tom Harrison ^Talk 15:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Simply calling it "anonymous gossip" is not an argument. Are you claiming that Wonkette does not have editorial oversight, fact-checking and is run by a major publishing company? That makes it a reliable source. JoshuaZ 15:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It's necessary that it be a reliable source, but not sufficient. We should avoid repeating gossip. Tom Harrison ^Talk 15:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)