Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Great Basin Bristlecone Pine

Great Basin Bristlecone Pine

File:Great Basin Bristlecone Pine 1.jpg

Original - The Great Basin Bristlecone Pine, a tree species in the southwest united states.

Reason

I took this not thinking about wikipedia but maybe for an iStockphoto upload or just a art shot. Then I looked at it and thought it was pretty damn illustrative. It is a wide-angle perspective which adds a ton of interest and I was shooting with a polarizer which enhanced the blue of the sky. The image is sharp at full res (vote on the full res, not the 800px description page). Also, this is a good example of the bristlecone pine as most of that species are more weather beaten.

Articles this image appears in

Tree, Great Basin Bristlecone Pine, Bristlecone Pine

Creator

User:Fcb981

• Support as nominator Fcb981(talk:contribs) 01:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment The caption seems a little off - It's not the Oldest tree species (a claim that would be very hard to quantify, anyway, as evolution means there's no hard-and-fast borders between species) - it's a species with the oldest living trees. Also, it would be nice if it weren't cut off at the bottom. Still, it's a good photo, and I can't bring myself to oppose outright. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose For encyclopedic value, the horizon angle kills it. It's a smashingly beautiful, fantastic art shot, but the fact that bristlecone pines are weathered and strange and often at odd angles is part of the encyclopedic value of this specimen. Straightening it up a bit (while crazy tilting the horizon) takes away from that. - Enuja (talk) 05:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

• As far as I know the horizon is pretty near to level... Not that it looks straight. The tree was tilted at that angle from vertical, there wouldn't really be a good way to show that with the surroundings of jagged hills. Also, I'm not totally sure the horizon would need to be perfectly level for this picture of a tree, the same way it doesn't really matter if a macro horizon is level. If it was a landscape, sure, but I think it isn't that important. Just my feeling... -Fcb981(talk:contribs) 05:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

• Support Too good for me not to support, though I agree with the concerns expressed above. It's definitely a beautiful shot, but a bit more on the artistic side than the encyclopedic side. Even so, I find it informative, useful and (my top criteria) I believe that seeing this picture would interest people in reading the article. faithless (^speak) 09:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
• Support As per above comment Booksworm ^{Sprechen-sie Koala?} 17:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Would prefer to see more of the base of the tree and less of the sky, but nonetheless, a quality shot. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 17:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment. I don't think this is a Bristlecone Pine; take a close look at the foliage, and compare to the closeup in Image:BristleConeBranch.jpg. This looks like some kind of juniper.--ragesoss (talk) 23:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
  • In all three articles, this image was used as an example of a Bristlecone (in tree, it was in the "Oldest trees" section). As a result, it's no longer in any article. Unless and until it can be correctly identified and placed in an appropriate article, Oppose.--ragesoss (talk) 00:46, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose as the species is incorrect - not capable of being encyclopaedic unless it's identified. It seems certain it's not a Pinus aristata as the leaf, branching, coloration and bark are wrong. Per Ragesoss the structure is indicative of a Juniper...I'm tempted that it's a Juniperus osteosperma but am not sure - Peripitus (Talk) 05:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Damn it, sorry guys. I should have doubled checked the species. The cheap field guide I picked up at a gas station showed the scaly bark of this tree as as the Bristlecone Pine. Actually, I'm pretty frustrated over this... I have been trying to avoid a mix-up of this kind but alas, I could have been more careful. Anyway, it looks quite like the Juniper species Peripitus mentioned above and I'm tempted to call it that but for the problem of changing the file name etc. Let me know what you think, I'd be willing to upload a fresh version with a good title and have this one deleted. I'm just not sure if this would be worth keeping this nomination or what? -Fcb981(talk:contribs) 06:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

• It is not in any article now. How could we keep the nomination?--Mbz1 (talk) 14:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

• You have got to be kidding me. look at this nom of YOURS in which you changed your identification of the flower almost 4 times. Shall we delist that image? Anyway, I'll see to it that all the appropriate changes are made tonight. (In a couple of hours unfortunately.) The image will be added to the appropriate articles and it will be neat and clean. No worries. -Fcb981(talk:contribs) 02:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

• I'll be the first one to support the delisting of this nom of mine . It is not my kind of the image and I really do not care about keeping it as FP. You know what, it might be a good idea, I'll nominate it for delisting myself. How that?--Mbz1 (talk) 04:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

• Done--Mbz1 (talk) 04:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

• Weak conditional Support - Conditional in that it's only valid if the species is cleared up . Weak because of that purple fringing all over the mountains farther back ... --Mad Tinman _{T C} 22:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
• Weak support It's a very good image, but that angle is very odd. Juliancolton ^{The storm still blows...} 22:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)