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Revert. First-generation = Neoglism. Also, many Goths enjoy Synth Pop. See WP:NPOV.
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m This is about gothic music and what role the genres played in it, some goths like hip-hop, doesn't make it "goth music". I can reference what I wrote if you wish.
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=== Synth pop ===
=== Synth pop ===


Synth pop invaded Goth and Deathrock clubs at the tail end of the 80s and throughout the 90s till present. Much to the distain of some goths and the merits of others.
Synth pop invaded Goth and Deathrock clubs at the tail end of the 80s and throughout the 90s till present. Much to the distain of some goth rockers, causing many to abandon the scene competely.


=== EBM ===
=== EBM ===

Revision as of 02:45, 15 February 2006

Gothic Music is a relatively confusing term, in that it is necessary to distinguish it as used to mean goth music, whilst also being used to completely expell this meaning.

Goth Music

Goth music is a selection of genres encompassing mainly gothic rock, darkwave, Industrial, EBM, synth pop and a post-punk genre known as deathrock.

Bands under this term are often across genres, and hold little to any connection to each other musically. Commonly, bands are linked by their association with goth subculture, many of the bands integral fan base being goths and often marketing products associated with goths.

Gothic Rock

Gothic rock is part of goth music due to, in part, it being the signature icon of goths. This genre is also the mother of the term goth music due to its abbreviated name goth rock. Bands within this genre typically play for goths, and often feature fashion, ideals and sounds appealing to this audience.

Deathrock

Deathrock is considered a subgenre of Punk. The term was often used interchangebly with early gothic rock bands, even spawning a smilar movement in the UK, at the Batcave club. Fans of this scene along with the Gothic rock scene are sometimes known as "Old School Goths". Deathrock bands typically play at clubs or at events (like the Drop Dead Festival) which specifically cater to those who enjoy music such as Deathrock, Psychobilly, Horror Punk and Post-Punk as well as Goths who enjoy early Gothic Rock.

Darkwave

Darkwave holds significant influences from Gothic rock bands, although they tend to incorporate elements that later effected the movement not found in Gothic rock bands.

Industrial

Bands in this form are often association with goth music by a large quantity of their fan base. Bands of this form do not emphasise this fact, some even despise it.

People newer to the Goth subculture often misinterpret Industrial rock in particular as "goth".

Synth pop

Synth pop invaded Goth and Deathrock clubs at the tail end of the 80s and throughout the 90s till present. Much to the distain of some goth rockers, causing many to abandon the scene competely.

EBM

This genre shares the same reason as Industrial for its defination as goth music. Some people who listen to dance music, call themselves fans of "EBM" in an attempt to associate themselves with goth.


Gothic Music

Gothic Music is a distinct term referring to music that fits within the classic meaning of the word gothic, rather than holding any connection to the modern day goth subculture.

This term refers to far fewer genres than its sister term, goth music. Bands in this genre usually have one or more traits that is inclusive wholey or partially of the meaning of the word gothic. This includes several forms of heavy metal music, rock music, and electronic music. This term however, is mostly used for specific forms of music that centralise on having these traits, and as such consists soley of gothic rock, darkwave and gothic metal. Notable is that goths dissascoiate themselfs with gothic metal or the term gothic music due to its association with gothic metal.

Gothic rock

Gothic rock fits in as being gothic music due to its imagery. Bands of this form often use gothic imagery akin to gothic art/literature, with the music often being designed to reflect the events depicted in the lyrics.

Darkwave

Darkwave shares the same reasoning as gothic rock as to its gothic defination.

Gothic metal

Gothic metal gets its defination from being completely absorbed in the definition of the word gothic. Gothic Literature themed Lyrics, beauty and the beast Vocals and medieval gothic Atmospheres are all focuses of the genre.

Common Confusions

Gothic vs Goth

Some people, most commonly goths, attest that, though not all music that meets the traditional meaning of the word gothic is considered to be goth music, all bands that form under the reference of goth music are gothic. This is a oxymoron in itself, as bands and artists under the label of goth music normally have little to nothing to do with the meaning of the word gothic. This oxymoron often causes great debate and confusion amongst most people, and often leads to the smudging of the terms together.

Gothic Metal vs Goth Metal

The widest genre of music that is considered a part of gothic music is the genre gothic metal. This genre is considered gothic by its usage of themes akin to the traditional meaning of gothic, and as such gets its name from that. The genre also suffers confusion with the term goth metal. This term implys that gothic metal is associated with goths, when the genre has little to no connection to them at all. Some argue however, that hybrid genres gothic-doom and doom-death are forms of gothic metal, and that due to bands in either form taking influence from gothic rock bands, that inheritantly makes such bands as these gothic metal, while bands of the gothic metal genre are therefore not. This again, is fueled mostly by the usage of the term goth metal.

See also