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*See below.<br /> — [[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">Berean Hunter</span>]] [[User talk :Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">(talk)</span>]] 02:58, 28 January 2016 (UTC) |
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Tirgil34
- Tirgil34 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Older archives were moved to an archive of the archive because of the page size and are listed below:
22 November 2015
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Алексей Чернышенко (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Zy2313 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Александр Батурин (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Similar obsession to claim various Iranian peoples, in this particular example the Alans, as Turkics.([1]-[2]-[3]-[4]) This is a core-habit of Tirgil & Co. Furthermore, notice the Cyrillic username, which he often uses as well, in order to hide as a person from that region he tries to vandalize. Also, look at the usage of the same edit summaries on top of all this,[5]-[6]-[7]-[8] as well as how the accounts in question perfectly aid each other.
Even more importantly, look how all listed accounts and IP's basically reinstate this very edit/content of an already CU blocked Tirgil sock on the very same articles, namely "Greczia" ([9]). The exact same stuff has been archived in the long-term abuse case. [10]
I'm merely adding the IPs (they're obviously all stale), as they're simply adding/reinstating the same exact same edits as these accounts.([11]-[12]-[13]-[14]-[15]) Just for the record.
Александр Батурин is also a stale account but made the exact same edits, with again a Cyrillic name (in the Tirgil fashion), on these related articles.([16]-[17])
Its some grand scheme as you can see, with numerous IPs and socks being used by the same person, and looking at the evidence, its pointing at Tirgil & Co I believe. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 04:20, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Self-endorsed by clerk for checkuser attention Please, compare Алексей Чернышенко and Александр Цикало to each other, but also to the Egaplaicesp group. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:07, 4 December 2015 (UTC)- Александр Цикало (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) and Алексей Чернышенко (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) are
Confirmed to each other, but look 
Unrelated to Egaplaicesp. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:35, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- I blocked the two. No tags. Closing. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
29 November 2015
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Tabiti (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) (added as per WP:DUCK)
- Ejlabnet (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) is currently blocked for pan-Turkic edit-warring on Azerbaijan. The IP 130.88.99.230 is restoring his edits[18] and those of the above-mentioned socks.[19][20][21][22] Could also be a sock of recently blocked Yakbul
- Hazel4ureyes (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) restores[23] the same content as Ejlabnet and the IP. Is already indef blocked but could be checked for sleepers.
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- @Vanjagenije and Mike V: The recent Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Egaplaicesp is certainly connected to Tirgil34. I'm adding some basic evidence and listing a CU request in case a deeper check is possible.
- At Urheimat, confirmed sock MagnificentMehmet inserts[24] the same content as Tirgil34 IP sock 2A02:908:E673:6700:246D:C096:109A:8E07 at Proto-Turkic language.[25] See here for more examples of Tirgil34 IP socks of the same range. Confirmed sock BronzeAgeYeniseian marks his edit at Karasuk culture[26] exactly like another Tirgil34 IP sock at Bey.[27]
- LnquiringsMind promotes[28] the view that the name Charaton is of Turkic origin, just as Tirgil34 sock Agaceri.[29]
- Árpádok cites the source "starling.rinet.ru",[30] similar to many Tirgil34 socks.[31][32][33][34][35][36]
- Tündezs attempts to restore content added by numerous Tirgil34 socks at Turanid race, where he adds a map created by Tirgil34 sock Su4kin.[37]
- Swathmafia as created the article Pazyryk rug (should be deleted as per WP:G5) based on content added at Pazyryk burials by Tirgil34 sock Osgoem.[38]
- LG.KH-12.8 adds at Karasuk languages[39] the same content as Tirgil34 sock Greentent and numerous IP socks at Karasuk culture.[40]
- Egaplaicesp who i had earlier tagged as a possible Tirgil34 sock after a CU was rejected due to staleness,[41] inserts at Haplogroup R1b[42] the same content as Tirgil34 sock Weftsbuddy.[43]
- Ztanislav inserts at History of Kyrgyzstan[44] the same content from "Spencer et al" as Tirgil34 sock Hirabutor.[45] Tirgil34 is still active on Wiktionary as Hirabutor. He is using content added to Wiktionary through Hirabutor to influence Wikipedia, which is problematic. Notice how Cardiffian1 at Tabiti inserts links to Wiktionary articles edit by Hirabutor.[46] The article Tabiti is based on content added at Scythian religion by Tirgil34 sock User:Dashte Qom [47] and links to the dubious article Tabitu created by Tirgil34 sock User:Greczia,[48] so it's creator Tabiti is probable a Tirgil34 sock too.
- In addition to similarities in content, these sockmasters also use similar usernames: Árpádok/Hárpad, Тазовск/Слушкы (cyrillic letters). I'm also suspecting a link between Tirgil34 and the sockmaster Afro-Eurasian. Same interests in race, linguistcs etc, socking and creations of fictitious userpages,[49][50][51] like Tirgil34.[52][53][54][55][56][57][58] Compare the name BronzeAgeYeniseian with the names of Afro-Eurasian's confirmed socks and the common obscure interest in Yakuts[59][60][61][62] and Basques.[63][64][65][66] Krakkos (talk) 15:40, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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- @Vanjagenije:
- Tabiti's only edit is to is to create the article Tabiti,[67] which is a restoration of content added to Scythian religion by Tirgil34 sock Dashte Qom.[68] Tabiti links to the obscure article Tabitu which was created by Tirgil34 sock Greczia.[69] Egaplaicesp's sock Cardiffian1 adds to Tabitu links to wiktionary articles edited by Tirgil34's (still active and not blocked) wiktionary sock Hirabutor.[70]. 130.88.99.230 later restores Cardiffian1's edit to Tabiti twice.[71][72]
- Ejlabnet's only activity at wikipedia was a brief edit war to insert turanist pseudoetymology (typical Tirgil34) at Azerbaijan on 29 November 2015,[73] for which he was blocked at 20:12, 29 November 2015.[74] Eight minutes after Ejlabnet's block, 130.88.99.230 restores Ejlabnet's edit at Azerbaijan,[75] then a couple of hours after that the edit is restored again by Hazel4ureyes.[76] In addition to restoring Ejlabnet, 130.88.99.230 also restores[77][78][79] other edits by other Egaplaicesp socks[80][81][82] which has ultimately been made by Tirgil34.[83][84][85][86]
@Vanjagenije: Could you also add a request to check Ejlabnet and Hazel4ureyes against Yakbul? Ejlabnet made his first edit the day after Yakbul was blocked,[87] and the person behind the IP 130.88.99.230 seems to the same as the person behind Yakbul.[88][89][90][91][92][93] Krakkos (talk) 21:08, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
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- @Krakkos: Please, provide some evidence regarding Tabiti and Ejlabnet. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:59, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed Please, check Ejlabnet against those two socks from the previous investigation, and also against the Egaplaicesp group. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- Looks technically Unrelated to the two from previous report and from Egaplaicesp. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:36, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Closing the case with no action. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:59, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- Looks technically
30 December 2015
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Nedbud (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Nedbud, a sleeper account from Commons, reuploads the image Neigbour-joining-tree-of-population-genetics.png to Genetic history of the Turkish people.[94] This image was originally added to the article by Ulubeyli,[95] a likely Tirgil34, sock, and then restored by various IP's with the same ISP and location as many IP socks of Tirgil34.[96][97] At commons Nedbud complains about "source falsifications",[98] similar to many Tirgil34 socks.[99][100][101][102][103][104][105][106] The person behind Tirgil34 has been posting the same map at the racist website "TheApricity" wit the comment "Sorry, it's genetic reality."[107] Krakkos (talk) 17:24, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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- Indeffed and closing.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 02:57, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
02 January 2016
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Egaplaicesp (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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MagnificentMehmet inserts at Urheimat[108] the same content as an IP at Proto-Turkic language.[109] BronzeAgeYeniseian marks his edit at Karasuk culture[110] exactly like an IP at Bey.[111] Both of these IP's belong to the range which was blocked as belonging to Tirgil34 in May 2015.[112] Egaplaicesp restores[113] Weftsbuddy[114] at Haplogroup R1b, and Swathmafia creates the article Pazyryk rug[115] based on content added at Pazyryk burials by Tirgil34 sock Osgoem.[116] Krakkos (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
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- l have added an another sock, Panathinaikos Athen Fan (talk · contribs) whose edits are obviously the same with banned Tirgil34 sock Kleropides (talk · contribs) (even word by word). Compare Kleropides's last edit on Kurds and Panathinaikos Athen Fan's last edit on Gutian people.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.216.13.181 (talk) 07:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- Can you provide diffs of those edits that are "obviously the same"? Vanjagenije (talk) 21:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- Panathinaikos Athen Fan's edit is similar to Mrliebeip, not Kleropides. I'm making a separate case. Krakkos (talk) 11:28, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
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- See below.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 02:58, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
24 January 2016
– A user has requested CheckUser. An SPI clerk will shortly look at the case and endorse or decline the request.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Panathinaikos Athen Fan (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Panathinaikos Athen Fan inserts at Gutian people[117] the content as Mrliebeip at Kurds[118] and Gutian people.[119] Krakkos (talk) 11:30, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
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