User talk:Matthew

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Jericho spoiler

Hi, Matthew. I notice that you've reverted the change I made to Template:Jerichonav. I made that change to remove a major plot spoiler from the template. May I ask why you reverted it? Pat Berry 02:05, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Matthew, I would appeciate it if you would reply here and not on my Talk page, so that interested parties can read the entire conversation in one place.

You responded to my query with "We don't censor against possible 'spoilers'." I'm a bit baffled by that response. First of all, who is this "we" that you are speaking for? Second, Wikepedia pages do take steps to prevent revealing plot spoilers. That is why Template:spoiler exists.

In view of the fact that the title "Mayor" is a huge plot spoiler for episode 11 of Jericho, can you please explain why you believe that information must be displayed in the navigation template, which appears in every article related to the series? The information is already available -- marked with Template:spoiler warnings -- in the articles about the winner of the election and "Vox Populi", the episode in which the election occurs. So I fail to see how it will be "censored" if it's not in the template. Pat Berry 02:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Content disclaimer / WP:CENSOR - We give due warning with {{spoiler}} - but - anything can be considered spoiler, him being Mayor isn't some "we" should censor. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 02:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Please explain why the title "Mayor" needs to be in the template at all. None of the other character names are preceded by job titles. Pat Berry 02:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

That is something only God knows, for some reason if you are Mayor/president or Sir etc. that always gets mentioned, however the "commoners" titles (Mr, Ms.) don't :-( - I wish I knew thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 02:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Please explain why you believe the title must be included in Template:Jerichonav. You reverted my removal, so you must have a compelling reason for wanting it there. Appeal to common practice is not a satisfactory answer. Pat Berry 02:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Matthew, I generally agree that we do not remove things simply for the sake of them being a spoiler alone, but there things we can do within reason. For one, nav templates typically don't go out of their way to make linked text longer when it's not needed. It's pretty clear that someone went out of their way to include a very needless spoiler that doesn't aid in anything. That's pretty much trolling behavior and we can remove those kinds of things. Not only that, but nav templates usually are not considered article content. No information is being removed from articles. -- Ned Scott 03:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. -- Ned Scott 03:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Granted I am in danger of this myself, now that I look at it. I suggest we both back off from the template for tonight. -- Ned Scott 03:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey

You said: "By the power vested in me by the lords of Kobol I hereby revoke your "image ban" - on a serious note: you are not banned (see WP:BAN#Decision_to_ban - Yamla's "ban" doesn't meet the Banning policy)"

This sort of statement is counterproductive. By encouraging a person to continue violating Wikipedia's image copyright and fair-use policies, you are encouraging a situation where a very productive and well-meaning contributor may have to be blocked indefinitely from editing. I was not asking him to cease contributing to any specific article or to the Wikipedia at large, only to stop uploading inappropriate images. I also have offered to review any image he wishes to upload should he prefer that approach. But given that virtually every single image he uploads violates Wikipedia policies, your statements were ill-advised. --Yamla 03:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)