Talk:Sultan bin Saqr Al Qasimi

Added a reliable source for the article (British government journals of the time), could we remove the 'no citations' flag? Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:22, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Berbera

Whatever events occured in Berbera, there exists a single (and dubious) assertion by the British that the Al Qasimi roamed as far as the Red Sea. This would presumably belong in the Al Qasimi entry, possibly in the 1809/1819 campaign entries but is irrelevant to Sultan bin Saqr unless there is mention of his personal involvement, which there is not. Any conflict between the British and the local tribes of Berbera did not involve the Al Qasimi and certainly not Sultan bin Saqr. The only ONLY salient fact is that the chiefs wrote him a letter. Any other mention of Berbera is not born up by relevance to Sultan's life or any cited source involving him in events at Berbera. It's pure OR. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 03:48, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if you claim the British assertion about the Red Sea is dubious because it doesn't detract from the point, Berbera is situated in the Gulf of Aden anyways and that phrase about Mocha can be dropped. Later on a Somali (Abdoola bin Away) travelled and met the Sultan himself regarding an unrelated issue, which is mentioned in the same book the letters were compiled in. You can find that mention on page ٣٩ and his name is spelled عبد الله بن عو , Away is mentioned here also General Report of the Emigration Commissioners - Volume 2 - Page 367.

I would like you to find a factual issue with this revised paragraph. Explaining who the letter was from and what their relationship with the Qasimi was (to even warrant contacting Sultan Saqr) is very appropriate.

Alongside their stronghold in the Persian Gulf & Gulf of Oman the Qasimi were very active both militarily and economically in the Gulf of Aden and were given to plunder and attack ships as far as the Gulf of Aden. They had numerous commercial ties with the Somalis, leading vessels from Ras Al Khaimah and the Persian Gulf to regularly attend trade fairs in the large ports of Berbera and Zeila and were very familiar with the Isaaq clan. When a British ship attempted to dock in Berbera it was attacked and multiple members of the crew were massacred by the Isaaq in 1825. In response the Royal Navy enforced a two year blockade of Berbera. In 1827 two years later the British arrived and extended an offer to relieve the blockade which had halted Berbera's lucrative trade in exchange for an indemnity. Following this initial suggestion the Battle of Berbera 1827 would break out. After the Isaaq defeat 15,000 Spanish dollars was to be paid by the Isaaq leaders for the destruction of the ship and loss of life. In the 1830s the Isaaq Sultan Farah Guled and Haji Ali penned a letter to Sultan bin Saqr Al Qasimi requesting military assistance and joint religious war against the British.

Thanks WanderingGeeljire (talk) 17:31, 19 March 2021 (UTC)