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This article was nominated for deletion on June 12, 2018. The result of the discussion was delete.

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Verification

There is verification of her contribution to the Pulitzer which, among other things, confirms notability to warrant a wiki page: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/harass. This seemed to be a problem last time. Also, I have added multiple reliable sources beyond NYTimes and Bowdoin press releases. I have reviewed the previous problems with the article, and repaired them, so that it will be suitable for publication. Also, this is a new article and shouldn't be tagged as "nominated for deletion." I will not change tag until futrther review. Mwinog2777 (talk) 04:47, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose deletion

I removed the deletion tag. I see Katie Benner every day on TV giving substantive contributions to numerous major news shows. The former AFD happened in 2018, and was closed after 3 days with only two editors commenting. Closed way too quickly there. I see by the deletion log that the 2018 article was a stub paragraph that consisted of two sentences, and only one source. This current version is a much more substantive article with a good deal of sourcing. It would help if contributors added 2021 sourcing, because she has been on both MSNBC and CNN a great deal. But in its current version, there is no justification for deleting this based on what it was three years ago. — Maile (talk) 01:44, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose deletion

Agree with above; article totally redone. When I wrote this article I was firmly aware of it having been deleted previously, and I corrected mistakes and significantly expanded references. I verified what had not been verified. I will add 2021 sourcing. She is a national figure with 71000 page views since I wrote the piece, and there has been only 1 negative comment.Mwinog2777 (talk) 17:07, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted personal life section

I had deleted the personal life section without any notice, sorry about that Mwinog2777 and thank you for alerting me about breaking some editing protocols. I did not mean to impute any bad faith or bias about the original editor, I just felt that the content was too personal/opinion-based for a Wikipedia article.

This was the contents:

Benner has been described as "masterful at digging into troubled companies", incredibly thorough and quite witty.[3] She uses multiple message apps, one of which tracks her husband's music habits.[importance?] She feels that "low-key surveillance is good for relationships, right?"[12]

Due to the "importance?" tag and the notice on the talk page: "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous", I went ahead deleted it. I felt that it was prying too deep into the subject's personality, even if self-reported, instead of stating facts. I had never seen this style of "personal life" section in a Wikipedia article before. And I moved the linked articles into the bibliography as a compromise. Anair13 (talk) 06:26, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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	<blockquote>Benner has been described as "masterful at digging into troubled companies", incredibly thorough and quite witty.[3] She uses multiple message apps, one of which tracks her husband's music habits.[importance?] She feels that "low-key surveillance is good for relationships, right?"[12]</blockquote>		<blockquote>Benner has been described as "masterful at digging into troubled companies", incredibly thorough and quite witty.[3] She uses multiple message apps, one of which tracks her husband's music habits.[importance?] She feels that "low-key surveillance is good for relationships, right?"[12]</blockquote>

	Due to the "importance?" tag and the notice on the talk page: "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous", I went ahead deleted it. I felt that it was prying too deep into the subject's personality, even if self-reported, instead of stating facts. I had never seen this style of "personal life" section in a Wikipedia article before. And I moved the linked articles into the bibliography as a compromise. [[User:Anair13\|Anair13]] ([[User talk:Anair13\|talk]])		Due to the "importance?" tag and the notice on the talk page: "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous", I went ahead deleted it. I felt that it was prying too deep into the subject's personality, even if self-reported, instead of stating facts. I had never seen this style of "personal life" section in a Wikipedia article before. And I moved the linked articles into the bibliography as a compromise. [[User:Anair13\|Anair13]] ([[User talk:Anair13\|talk]]) 06:26, 8 April 2021 (UTC)