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It seems to be a concept used in a single science-fiction book, I don't see how it deserves a separate article on Wikipedia, considering there isn't even much written here about it. BeŻet (talk) 14:44, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Keep - discussed in reliable, independent secondary sources cited in the article. Meets WP:GNG. Newimpartial (talk) 15:56, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't see it being mentioned though in Neo-Victorianism and the Memory of Empire. Don't have access to the other one. BeŻet (talk) 19:14, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't know why you say that. It's there. Newimpartial (talk) 22:01, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

The Tattooed Girl: The Enigma of Stieg Larsson and the Secrets Behind the Most Compelling Thrillers of Our Time says In Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash and The Diamond Age, the concept of a "distributed republic" is introduced; it means a "nation" where citizens and physical assets are scattered around the globe, often changing, in many loosely connected anarchist communities. The concept is adapted, and acknowledged, in the online, anarchist "Hacker Republic" in the Millennium novels, where Lisbeth Salander is a "citizen".

The only search result for "distributed republic" I got in Neo-Victorianism and the Memory of Empire was America is conspicuously absent in the novel, recalled only in the hegemonic presence of "Neo-Victorian" culture, code for the technologically and culturally dominant "New Atlantis" tribe or "phyle" (ibid., p.33) that co-exists among others like the dominant Nipponese and Hindustanis but also the "Ashantis, Kurds, Armenians, Navajos, Tibetans, Senderos, Mormons, Jesuits, Lapps, Pathans, Tutsis, the First Distributed Republic and its innumerable offshoots, Heartlanders, Irish, and one or two local CryptNet cells" (ibid., p490)., but that was on page 132–133 (https://books.google.com/books?id=d2Xv0n40fE0C&pg=PT133), not on the indicated page 124. TompaDompa (talk) 00:25, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Newimpartial: as TompaDompa pointed out, it's not there. And it's just briefly mentioned in The Tattooed Girl. Doesn't seem notable to me. BeŻet (talk) 11:37, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

When a reference is on another page, that isn't what most of us mean by "not there". And the Tatooed Girl reference meets SIGCOV in this context, since it provides a definition usable in this article. The concept is also discussed in The Routledge Handbook of Anarchy and Anarchist Thought and some peer-reviewed articles, so I'm not really worried about the sourcing. Newimpartial (talk) 13:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

What peer-reviewed articles? BeŻet (talk) 18:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

E.g., [1], [2]. Newimpartial (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

But are these sources discussing the "distributed republic", or other aspects of the book? If it is the latter, then they don't support notability of the subject. BeŻet (talk) 18:26, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Newimpartial, I've looked at those sources. Distributed Information: Complexity Theory in the Novels of Neal Stephenson and Linda Nagata contains the collocation "distributed republic" precisely once, in the sentence In fact The Diamond Age is chock full of distributed systems: not only the global communications media Net but organizations like CryptNet and the "gestalt society" of the Drummers, the peasant society of Chinese rice-farmers, the First Distributed Republic that springs up in the West of Carl Hollywood's grandfather, and Dramatis Personae, the autonomously intelligent play of performer/spectators. Remediated Readers: Gender and Literacy in Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age contains the collocation "distributed republic" precisely zero times. I want you to explain how you think these sources demonstrate notability for the topic of distributed republics. TompaDompa (talk) 18:37, 1 August 2021 (UTC)