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:::Ah yes, thank you [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]. Doh! I can sort of see that now after scolling through [[Non-pharmaceutical intervention (epidemiology)]]. Maybe renaming the dab parenthesis on that page could provide a quick fix there at least? [[Special:Contributions/86.186.155.146|86.186.155.146]] ([[User talk:86.186.155.146|talk]]) 08:42, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:::Ah yes, thank you [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]]. Doh! I can sort of see that now after scolling through [[Non-pharmaceutical intervention (epidemiology)]]. Maybe renaming the dab parenthesis on that page could provide a quick fix there at least? [[Special:Contributions/86.186.155.146|86.186.155.146]] ([[User talk:86.186.155.146|talk]]) 08:42, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
::::That might help. Expanding this article to have a satisfactory overview would also help. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 15:33, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
::::That might help. Expanding this article to have a satisfactory overview would also help. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 15:33, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:::::Hum, [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] (and [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]]), providing a satisfactory overview that's appropriately sourced doesn't seem to me (at least) an altogether straightforward task. My impression is that the NPI term is largely deployed as a self-explanatory catch-all label/descriptor that can conveniently encompass any non-drug-based intervention (irrespective of effectiveness), ranging from aromatherapy or [[sensory garden]]s through engineering tweaks (eg for prevention of work-related back pain) to legislative change (eg smoking bans). In fact, while the Dictionary of Epidemiology often employs the term it seems to feel that it's too self-explanatory to merit a definition or explanation [https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199976720.001.0001/acref-9780199976720?avail_01=free&avail_02=unlocked&btog=chap&hide=true&page=75&pageSize=20&skipEditions=true&sort=titlesort&source=%2F10.1093%2Facref%2F9780199976720.001.0001%2Facref-9780199976720]. <p> Since I'm not familiar with any suitable sourcing specifically focused on NPI as a separate concept, I've taken a rapid look at GoogleBooks where a couple of candidates popped up: {{ISBN|9783030609719}} appears to present the viewpoint (i.e. pov) of a single author; {{ISBN|9781420088021}} focuses on a particular methodological aspect of their evaluation (RCT). <p>[[Special:Contributions/86.186.155.146|86.186.155.146]] ([[User talk:86.186.155.146|talk]]) 18:11, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
:::::Hum, [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] (and [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]]), providing a satisfactory overview that's appropriately sourced doesn't seem to me (at least) an altogether straightforward task. My impression is that the NPI term is largely deployed as a self-explanatory catch-all label/descriptor that can conveniently encompass any non-drug-based intervention (irrespective of effectiveness), ranging from aromatherapy or [[sensory garden]]s through engineering tweaks (eg for prevention of work-related back pain) to legislative change (eg smoking bans). In fact, while the Dictionary of Epidemiology often refers to "non-pharmacological interventions" it seems to feel that the term is too self-explanatory to merit a separate definition or explanation [https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199976720.001.0001/acref-9780199976720?avail_01=free&avail_02=unlocked&btog=chap&hide=true&page=75&pageSize=20&skipEditions=true&sort=titlesort&source=%2F10.1093%2Facref%2F9780199976720.001.0001%2Facref-9780199976720]. <p> Since I'm not familiar with any suitable sourcing specifically focused on NPI as a separate concept, I've taken a rapid look at GoogleBooks where a couple of candidates popped up: {{ISBN|9783030609719}} appears to present the viewpoint (i.e. pov) of a single author; {{ISBN|9781420088021}} focuses on a particular methodological aspect of their evaluation (RCT). <p>[[Special:Contributions/86.186.155.146|86.186.155.146]] ([[User talk:86.186.155.146|talk]]) 18:11, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

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Hypertension section

@TompaDompa: your section may be better moved into the Hypertension article, with reference to Non-pharmaceutical intervention. If someone add her/his support for this move and do lead it, it's all fine :). We can then add into NPI a one-liner reference here about hypertension being mainly countered by NPI. Yug (talk) 09:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge somehow??

(@WhatamIdoing:) As someone who has worked in the field of epidemiology, I'm not sure I understand the distinction made in the header:

(cf Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Archive 144#Non-pharmaceutical intervention)

86.186.155.255 (talk) 10:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging doesn't work if you don't sign your comment with the same edit. Anyway, pinging WhatamIdoing. TompaDompa (talk) 22:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
AFAICT we've decided to have one article about all NPIs, and a separate article about NPIs that are relevant for COVID-19. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:24, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes, thank you WhatamIdoing. Doh! I can sort of see that now after scolling through Non-pharmaceutical intervention (epidemiology). Maybe renaming the dab parenthesis on that page could provide a quick fix there at least? 86.186.155.146 (talk) 08:42, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That might help. Expanding this article to have a satisfactory overview would also help. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:33, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hum, WhatamIdoing (and TompaDompa), providing a satisfactory overview that's appropriately sourced doesn't seem to me (at least) an altogether straightforward task. My impression is that the NPI term is largely deployed as a self-explanatory catch-all label/descriptor that can conveniently encompass any non-drug-based intervention (irrespective of effectiveness), ranging from aromatherapy or sensory gardens through engineering tweaks (eg for prevention of work-related back pain) to legislative change (eg smoking bans). In fact, while the Dictionary of Epidemiology often refers to "non-pharmacological interventions" it seems to feel that the term is too self-explanatory to merit a separate definition or explanation [1].

Since I'm not familiar with any suitable sourcing specifically focused on NPI as a separate concept, I've taken a rapid look at GoogleBooks where a couple of candidates popped up: ISBN 9783030609719 appears to present the viewpoint (i.e. pov) of a single author; ISBN 9781420088021 focuses on a particular methodological aspect of their evaluation (RCT).

86.186.155.146 (talk) 18:11, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]